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Thank you so much for your response. I'm drafting an intention of letter and will get it reviewed by an immigration attorney. I would like to get it reviewed by you as well if you're comfortable with it.

I don't have a QC DL, however, I do have QC provincial card. I'm not sure if leasing an apartment in Ontario will help me get BOWP. I can work remotely if need be.

Regarding WP extension in QC - without CSQ, my employer will have to get CAQ and LMIA. They are fine with it but I am not because in my express entry application, I'm trying to show intentions to reside outside Quebec whereas work permit extension through LMIA and CAQ negates my intention to leave Quebec. I will have two contradicting applications in the system which can lead to refusal of PR. Do you have any thoughts about this?
I cannot review individual documents. If you already have an attorney, rely on him.
 
 

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Hi guys,

I am a january 2019 AOR. I just got off the phone with IRCC agent and he told me the status of my file.

Eligibility: not started
Medicals: passed
Criminality: passed
Security: not started

Now my question is can criminality pass before eligibility is even started? I am a bit confused as I havent read anything like this before on this forum. My file is being proceesed at sysney, nova scotia. Guidance would be appreciated thanks
YEs, criminality an R10 happen at the same time. Also, your file is at CIO (central intake office) where thr R10 and criminality is done.

The eligibility happens at CPC.
 

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Thank you so much for your reply. I have two more questions. 1. Should we send the LOE beforehand or later if they ask for it. 2. what explanation can be written that will look genuine to IRCC?
The LoE has to be a part of your application. As regards explanation, explain why you did not mention it before. When you sign a form, you sign it claiming that all the information in the form is true and accurate.
 

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Hi @legalfalcon,
HI, I am new in these forum , curious to know about due date in Gcms due date.
Does it mean that CIC will process my application after due date. I am OID applicant already completed my 12 month after application submission .I have not recieved my Medical request yet.
Need help please give me some input.
Due date is a system generated date, on which date the officer working on your file is reminded of the pending file. It has no significance.
 
 

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Thanks @legalfalcon , my case is bit different, my canadian child is born after between ITA and e-APR. I received ITA, then child born, still I haven't submitted e-APR. I am in process to fill the forms after I received ITA (bottom table with 'continue'/'decline' button PR application XX days left).

The question is:

  • OPTION A: Should I add my newborn canadian (as Unaccompanying PR child form) by 'Modify Family Information' Button on top?
  • OPTION B: Should I ONLY declare newborn canadian in 'immediate family members' table in Family subsection of Personal Details Section?
  • OPTION C: I do OPTION B, and while submitting my eAPR, I submit also the IMM4506 in LOE section. But I believe IMM4506 is similar to immediate family members table.
Kindly advice, which OPTION, I should follow, really confused after reading conflicting opinions on forum, some ppl added as unaccompanying, some not.
 

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Thanks @legalfalcon , my case is bit different, my canadian child is born after between ITA and e-APR. I received ITA, then child born, still I haven't submitted e-APR. I am in process to fill the forms after I received ITA (bottom table with 'continue'/'decline' button PR application XX days left).

The question is:

  • OPTION A: Should I add my newborn canadian (as Unaccompanying PR child form) by 'Modify Family Information' Button on top?
  • OPTION B: Should I ONLY declare newborn canadian in 'immediate family members' table in Family subsection of Personal Details Section?
  • OPTION C: I do OPTION B, and while submitting my eAPR, I submit also the IMM4506 in LOE section. But I believe IMM4506 is similar to immediate family members table.
Kindly advice, which OPTION, I should follow, really confused after reading conflicting opinions on forum, some ppl added as unaccompanying, some not.
You will have to add a child who is Canadian born in the application and also file his Canadian birth certificate.
 
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jojee2k6

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You will have to add a child who is Canadian born in the application and also file his Canadian birth certificate.
Thanks, so you mean I should go for option A:
  • OPTION A: add my newborn canadian (as Unaccompanying PR child form) by 'Modify Family Information' Button on top?
  • and add birth certificate.
Right???
 

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IRCC states:

Minimum work experience requirement
The applicant must have accumulated at least one year of continuous full-time (or the equivalent in part-time) paid work experience in the occupation identified in their application for permanent residence as their primary occupation. In calculating this period of work experience, the occupation must be listed in skill type 0 (Managerial occupations), skill level A (Professional occupations) or skill level B (Technical occupations and skilled trades) of the National Occupational Classification (NOC) 2016 [R75(2)(a)].

The applicant’s skilled work experience must also

  • have occurred within the ten years preceding the date of their application for permanent residence; and
  • not be in an occupation that has been designated as a restricted occupation.
Note: At the time of publication, no occupations were designated as restricted.

In addition, during that period of employment, the applicant must have

  • performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC [R75(2)(b)]; and
  • performed a substantial number of the main duties, including all of the essential duties, of the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC [R75(2)(c)].
Note: The applicant does not need to demonstrate that they meet the “employment requirements” listed in the NOC occupational description.

You do not have to meet the educational requirements. What is important is that your job duties should substantially match those of the NOC selected.
Dear @legalfalcon,

Could you please offer suggestion regarding the definition of essential duties, and the difference between essential and main duties for IRCC (or Canadian law)? Thank you!
 
 

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@legalfalcon

Hello,

I have seen you replying in many posts. Could you help me with my concern. I have put my query in the group but no replies.
Could you PLease check the below notes and let me know if there is something I need to worry and the status of my application.

I have applied my application for --PNP-INLAND(PR application) on september 3rd 2018 and recieved AOR on same day.

Its been more than 6 months and i have recently applied the GCMS notes and got it today.
Medical,Criminality -passed
Eligibility- Review required
Security -Not started
I have pasted the notes in the most recent order. Could you please advice on this.
I dont know what is the reason that my application is stuck.

NOTES 1:

Created Date: 2018/10/18 09:52:51
Created by :FM00229
Updated Date:2018/10/18 09:55:41
Updated by:FM00229
Restricted :No
Label:EE Eligibility
Office:Centralized Intake office
Text:
Review Type:A11.2 –Case Processing Agent application: E********* regulation -PNP- :FSW,2018-09-03 I have reviewed this application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following .RECOMMENDATION:*** Review REQUIRED by officer ***

A11.2 : Review Required MEDICAL: ALL VALID Ready to Finalize PNP triage : Remains in Canada

Civil Status : NO CONCERNS PA (****), married Marriage certificate is on file. Passport Expiry:------, Spouse/CL(-----------) Accompanying –passport expiry(-------)

PNP nomination: Province of nomination NBPNC--------- Province matches current residence : Yes,

Nomination Validity:----------

Case Type: Economic case, FUNDS: CAD$ Please recview statement from bank, date---- showing CAD 16113 Family of 2 requires CAD 15531. Integrated search ( FOSS/GCMS) : PA is in status –WP valid until----- .

Experience in Canada –working in company------ , No adverse information.

Spouse status: valid until -----. No adverse Information.

A.11.2 CRS Assessment: Appears Met CRS score at ITA -976 min CRA score for round: 440, CRA score at APR# 976 points, total CRS points assessed score 956 *** 600-Provincial nomination. Verified by CIO **** .

Work Experiences: qualifying period, 3rd September 2008 – 02 September 2018—Systems engineer NOC 2173- 2014/06-2017/04 at company name ----- submitted at reference 2018/07/31 which is assessed as follows .EDOC Numbers: 241615780 *(2) Developer II NOC 2174- 2018/05-2018/08 at company name ----- submitted letter of reference 2018/08/27 which is assessed as follows .EDOC Numbers: 241615285, the duties listed in the letters of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under the NOC code selected. The letters of the reference appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties under the NOC code selected, the letter of the reference appears to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 12 months of work experience. PA meets education requirements.


NOTES 2:
Created Date: 2018/10/18 09:52:43
Created by :FM00229
Updated Date:2018/10/18 09:52:51
Updated by:FM00229
Restricted :No
Label: General
Office:Centralized Intake office
Text: *** AGENT REVIEW *** POLICE CERTIFICATES R10 OK Criminality Decision Passed.


NOTES 3:
Created Date: 2018/09/26 14:37:59
Created by :SM8683
Updated Date:2018/09/26 14:38:02
Updated by:SM8683
Restricted :No
Label:EE eligibility
Office:Centralized Intake office
Text:

Review Type: Program assistant Application : E********* Regulation: PNP I have reviewed thisapplication based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and information contained in the file and note the following.MIN SCORE:440 CRS SCORE:976 Prinicipal applicant application Promoted: Existing UCI Spouse Application Promoted:Existing UCI

Spouse Application Promoted: Existing UCI PA: Statutory details located in separate GCMS note SP: Statutory details located In separate GCMS note Primary Applicant Medical Attached to UCI: Yes Spouse Medical Attached to UCI: Yes Client Fees: Verified ——LANGUAGES-—- Principal Applicant 1 -English- IELTS and Met Threshold & Verified Spouse 1 -English- IELTS and Verified —-EDUCATION--—- Primary Applicant 1-ECA report Verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site ECA Canadian Equivalency

Summary reported by Issuing agency as BACHELOR‘S DEGREE (4 Years) Foreign credential provided Spouse 1-Canadlan educational credential on file; credential reviewed;Canadlan Institution Verified Level of education: 2

Year College Diploma ---POLICE CERTIFICATE— Primary Applicant 1- police certificate: Provided-NRT R10 OK Recommendation: review required - stat question Spouse SPOUSE/CL RCMP Screening NRT 1- police certificate: Provided-NRT R10 OK Recommendation: review required - stat question -—AGE—- Applicant's age reviewed and No Change from lTA to e-APR ~~Documents Set for Review——— Client information WP under passport for spouse.


NOTES 5:

Created Date: 2018/09/26 14:17:23
Created by :SM8683
Updated Date:2018/09/26 14:17:55
Updated by:SM8683
Restricted :No
Label:General
Office:Centralized Intake office
Text: Discrepancy between the NOC added by the client, NOC 2173 and the NOC as per PN certificate/
Spreadsheet,NOC 2174
 

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@legalfalcon

I was informed that if i order gcms notes, it would delay my file, as the officer will require to work upon my file as well as submit report which would slow down progress.

Is that true?
 

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@legalfalcon

I was informed that if i order gcms notes, it would delay my file, as the officer will require to work upon my file as well as submit report which would slow down progress.

Is that true?
Completely false. The GCMS notes are requested and released under the Access to Information Act, where as the application is processed under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, which are entirely two different laws, and are delat by two different departments of IRCC. IRCC has a dedicated department for Access to Information and Privacy requests, which deals with the GCMS notes request.
 

legalfalcon

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AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon

Hello,

I have seen you replying in many posts. Could you help me with my concern. I have put my query in the group but no replies.
Could you PLease check the below notes and let me know if there is something I need to worry and the status of my application.

I have applied my application for --PNP-INLAND(PR application) on september 3rd 2018 and recieved AOR on same day.

Its been more than 6 months and i have recently applied the GCMS notes and got it today.
Medical,Criminality -passed
Eligibility- Review required
Security -Not started
I have pasted the notes in the most recent order. Could you please advice on this.
I dont know what is the reason that my application is stuck.

NOTES 1:

Created Date: 2018/10/18 09:52:51
Created by :FM00229
Updated Date:2018/10/18 09:55:41
Updated by:FM00229
Restricted :No
Label:EE Eligibility
Office:Centralized Intake office
Text:
Review Type:A11.2 –Case Processing Agent application: E********* regulation -PNP- :FSW,2018-09-03 I have reviewed this application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following .RECOMMENDATION:*** Review REQUIRED by officer ***

A11.2 : Review Required MEDICAL: ALL VALID Ready to Finalize PNP triage : Remains in Canada

Civil Status : NO CONCERNS PA (****), married Marriage certificate is on file. Passport Expiry:------, Spouse/CL(-----------) Accompanying –passport expiry(-------)

PNP nomination: Province of nomination NBPNC--------- Province matches current residence : Yes,

Nomination Validity:----------

Case Type: Economic case, FUNDS: CAD$ Please recview statement from bank, date---- showing CAD 16113 Family of 2 requires CAD 15531. Integrated search ( FOSS/GCMS) : PA is in status –WP valid until----- .

Experience in Canada –working in company------ , No adverse information.

Spouse status: valid until -----. No adverse Information.

A.11.2 CRS Assessment: Appears Met CRS score at ITA -976 min CRA score for round: 440, CRA score at APR# 976 points, total CRS points assessed score 956 *** 600-Provincial nomination. Verified by CIO **** .

Work Experiences: qualifying period, 3rd September 2008 – 02 September 2018—Systems engineer NOC 2173- 2014/06-2017/04 at company name ----- submitted at reference 2018/07/31 which is assessed as follows .EDOC Numbers: 241615780 *(2) Developer II NOC 2174- 2018/05-2018/08 at company name ----- submitted letter of reference 2018/08/27 which is assessed as follows .EDOC Numbers: 241615285, the duties listed in the letters of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under the NOC code selected. The letters of the reference appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties under the NOC code selected, the letter of the reference appears to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 12 months of work experience. PA meets education requirements.


NOTES 2:
Created Date: 2018/10/18 09:52:43
Created by :FM00229
Updated Date:2018/10/18 09:52:51
Updated by:FM00229
Restricted :No
Label: General
Office:Centralized Intake office
Text: *** AGENT REVIEW *** POLICE CERTIFICATES R10 OK Criminality Decision Passed.


NOTES 3:
Created Date: 2018/09/26 14:37:59
Created by :SM8683
Updated Date:2018/09/26 14:38:02
Updated by:SM8683
Restricted :No
Label:EE eligibility
Office:Centralized Intake office
Text:

Review Type: Program assistant Application : E********* Regulation: PNP I have reviewed thisapplication based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and information contained in the file and note the following.MIN SCORE:440 CRS SCORE:976 Prinicipal applicant application Promoted: Existing UCI Spouse Application Promoted:Existing UCI

Spouse Application Promoted: Existing UCI PA: Statutory details located in separate GCMS note SP: Statutory details located In separate GCMS note Primary Applicant Medical Attached to UCI: Yes Spouse Medical Attached to UCI: Yes Client Fees: Verified ——LANGUAGES-—- Principal Applicant 1 -English- IELTS and Met Threshold & Verified Spouse 1 -English- IELTS and Verified —-EDUCATION--—- Primary Applicant 1-ECA report Verified on issuing agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site ECA Canadian Equivalency

Summary reported by Issuing agency as BACHELOR‘S DEGREE (4 Years) Foreign credential provided Spouse 1-Canadlan educational credential on file; credential reviewed;Canadlan Institution Verified Level of education: 2

Year College Diploma ---POLICE CERTIFICATE— Primary Applicant 1- police certificate: Provided-NRT R10 OK Recommendation: review required - stat question Spouse SPOUSE/CL RCMP Screening NRT 1- police certificate: Provided-NRT R10 OK Recommendation: review required - stat question -—AGE—- Applicant's age reviewed and No Change from lTA to e-APR ~~Documents Set for Review——— Client information WP under passport for spouse.


NOTES 5:

Created Date: 2018/09/26 14:17:23
Created by :SM8683
Updated Date:2018/09/26 14:17:55
Updated by:SM8683
Restricted :No
Label:General
Office:Centralized Intake office
Text: Discrepancy between the NOC added by the client, NOC 2173 and the NOC as per PN certificate/
Spreadsheet,NOC 2174
Your notes look good. The Review required is for the funds and your file is awaiting an officer's review. As soon as the officer review's your file, the eligibility will be passed and it will move ahead.

I do not see any concerns.
 
 

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AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
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Passport Req..
05-04-2016
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12-04-2016
LANDED..........
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Dear @legalfalcon,

Could you please offer suggestion regarding the definition of essential duties, and the difference between essential and main duties for IRCC (or Canadian law)? Thank you!
Each NO has some essential duties, which form the core of that occupation. When your reference letter is reviewed, the essential duties should be there and a substantial (75% or more) number of job duties, should match the job duties of the NOC selected. For essential duties, see the lead statement of the NOC.
 

legalfalcon

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4112
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Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Thanks, so you mean I should go for option A:
  • OPTION A: add my newborn canadian (as Unaccompanying PR child form) by 'Modify Family Information' Button on top?
  • and add birth certificate.
Right???
yes
 
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