Sponsoring my Korean wife for permanent residency

[costaudjoe]

Read the fine print. You don't want to get screwed.

On some coach fares, you can transfer the unused portion to another ticket usually within a year. But again read the fine print.(Of course there would be change fees).

I am not sure about your question about a Korean entering Canada from Seattle. Do you expect difficulties from American or Canadian customs?

 

[Korea2Canada]

Certified True Copy: The law office that prepared all of our docs cannot seem to get their head around the format for Certified True Copy of 1 photocopy. They are able to make a separate page with their own version of a certified true copy statement (and attach it to the photocopy) BUT say they have no template to use to put ON the photocopy.

We have all of our other translations done and notarized by the same office. They are fine and we have those. It was just the ID Card Photocopy they have trouble with. They know what has to be done but say they have no such form and cannot type it on the photocopy since the statement must be in English. The only way they say is if a translator puts the statement on the photocopy first...and the lawyer signs it. BUT that will be an additional charge for an additional translator affidavit (in addition to the affidavit for the translator to translate the ID Card).

All of this to make a photocopy of my wifes national ID Card (which is not a required documment to be certified as far as a I know). The lawyer told my wife he cannot just put an English statement (the one from CIC guide) on a photocopy. He must have a special template.

 

[Rob_TO]

All of this to make a photocopy of my wifes national ID Card (which is not a required documment). The lawyer told my wife he cannot just put an English statement (the one from CIC guide) on a photocopy. He must have a special template.

Because it's not really a requiremed doc, I wouldn't worry about it at all. Even if you never submitted the ID card at all it would probably be ok. So i would just submit the certified true copy they provided you and don't waste the money/effort it would take to change it. I'm sure VOs are used to having translations/certifications done slightly differently, depending what country the applicant is from. Remember in our case we didn't even get our photocopy certified true and the VO didn't ask or care.

Very worst case, Manila will ask you for another certified true copy that you can just do and send them if they ask. Though i'm 99.9% sure this won't even happen!

 

[bartjones]

Certified True Copy: The law office that prepared all of our docs cannot seem to get their head around the format for Certified True Copy of 1 photocopy. They are able to make a separate page with their own version of a certified true copy statement (and attach it to the photocopy) BUT say they have no template to use to put ON the photocopy.

We have all of our other translations done and notarized by the same office. They are fine and we have those. It was just the ID Card Photocopy they have trouble with. They know what has to be done but say they have no such form and cannot type it on the photocopy since the statement must be in English. The only way they say is if a translator puts the statement on the photocopy first...and the lawyer signs it. BUT that will be an additional charge for an additional translator affidavit (in addition to the affidavit for the translator to translate the ID Card).

All of this to make a photocopy of my wifes national ID Card (which is not a required documment). The lawyer told my wife he cannot just put an English statement (the one from CIC guide) on a photocopy. He must have a special template.

I think you can either do what Rob_TO is saying and just send the photocopy (which I did) or accept what the lawyer's office is offering which is probably also fine. A certified true copy is just an affidavit from someone stating that they examined the original and the photocopy and swear that the attached photocopy is a true copy of the original. That statement doesn't have to be on the photocopy itself. It can be on a separate piece of paper because they put those red seals on all the pages, (half the seal on one page the other half on the preceding page) making it impossible to insert a different photocopy. I think if you do it their way you'll be fine.

 

[Korea2Canada]

I agree with you. The CIC guide states for the attestation to be ON the photocopy. The IMM0008 Form (Generic Form for Spouse) has a National Identity Document section (bottom of page 2). I did put my wifes national ID number here. Should I just photocopy it and put Korean National ID Card as a heading? It will cost 60,000 won to get this copied at a the lawyers office onece and if they can do it.


IMO, the national ID card number is on the card and that should be what they need...right? thanks! I don't want to give this lawyer any more money

 

[Korea2Canada]

Concerning putting attestation ON a photocopy: The CIC guide clearly states ON the photocopy. Could it be that this is mean't for offices that have rubber stamps in English where they would simply stamp the doc and sign it?

 

[bartjones]

Concerning putting attestation ON a photocopy: The CIC guide clearly states ON the photocopy. Could it be that this is mean't for offices that have rubber stamps in English where they woould simply stamp the doc and sign it?

That's one way of doing it, but as I said, the purpose of requiring a certified true copy is to satisfy the VO that the copy you provided is in fact a true copy of the original. So if someone swears an affidavit to that effect, attaches the photocopy to their affidavit, and the whole thing is sealed in the manner they seal things in Korean affidavits, you should be fine. Different countries have different ways of approaching these things. The guide shows the typical Canadian way of doing it but if you can accomplish the same purpose by a slightly different method, I can't imagine CIC would care. And you're probably going to have as much luck convincing a Korean lawyer to do it the Canadian way as you would trying to convince a Canadian lawyer to do it the Korean way.

I agree with you. The CIC guide states for the attestation to be ON the photocopy. The IMM0008 Form (Generic Form for Spouse) has a National Identity Document section (bottom of page 2). I did put my wifes national ID number here. Should I just photocopy it and put Korean National ID Card as a heading? It will cost 60,000 won to get this copied at a the lawyers office onece and if they can do it.


IMO, the national ID card number is on the card and that should be what they need...right? thanks! I don't want to give this lawyer any more money

That's your easiest option. I think you're fine to just send the photocopy. My thinking was that it showed her pic next to her ID number verifying the information she gave in the national ID Card section of IMM0008. They don't ask for a certified true copy so how can they complain if you don't provide it?

 

[Korea2Canada]

I photocopied the ID Card and I typed this under it on the photocopy:

The Korean language on this card is our current address as indicated on the IMM forms.

I don't know but I bet it is the registration number on the card that's of importance.

All Korean docs done!

 

[Rob_TO]

I don't know but I bet it is the registration number on the card that's of importance.

And even that is not so important, as the main proof of the applicant's ID comes from the passport which you are including a regular photocopy of.

If alternate ID copies like this Korean National ID card were really that important, then the Korean country guide would specify to include it. Since they don't and are satisifed with just entering the ID number into the IMM form, it's not that important to actually include the copy of card, let alone a certified translation/copy.

 

[Korea2Canada]

And even that is not so important, as the main proof of the applicant's ID comes from the passport which you are including a regular photocopy of.

If alternate ID copies like this Korean National ID card were really that important, then the Korean country guide would specify to include it. Since they don't and are satisifed with just entering the ID number into the IMM form, it's not that important to actually include the copy of card, let alone a certified translation/copy.

Yes!, you just typed exactly what I am thinking right now. I just photocopied it and put it in my file with the application. All I have left to do is wait for Option C to arrive in the mail & the medical exam.

 

[costaudjoe]

Uh oh...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-threatens-to-discipline-diplomats-taking-job-action/article10818080/

 

[bartjones]

Great, Just what we needed, more delays.

 

[Korea2Canada]

http://m.embassynews.ca/news/2013/04/03/foreign-service-union-in-legal-strike-position/43582

Does not include immigration officers according to this.

 

[costaudjoe]

It's a little tricky but if you read it closely it does include immigration officers.

The foreign service officers group includes heads of missions abroad—but not ambassadors—mission security officers, people working on military or defence relations, immigration officers, and others.

It is a list of what is included in foreign services officers group which does not include ambassadors (the author uses dashes to make a precision regarding heads of missions abroad). The rest is included.

 

[Korea2Canada]

Okay, I see what you mean. A long PR wait could get even longer!