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Significant reduction in immigrants to Canada if Trump win?

deerestlovelybear

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As it has been widely discussed here, majority of 'skilled workers' to Canada under current programs are those who seek TN visa to work in US as otherwise it would be close to impposible to get work permit in USA. As Trump plan to repeal NAFTA, will that mean significant reduction in immigrants to Canada and those seeking Canadian passports?
 

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deerestlovelybear said:
As it has been widely discussed here, majority of 'skilled workers' to Canada under current programs are those who seek TN visa to work in US as otherwise it would be close to impposible to get work permit in USA. As Trump plan to repeal NAFTA, will that mean significant reduction in immigrants to Canada and those seeking Canadian passports?
All of that would be offset by pissed of Americans fleeing North.

Oh, and Trump is unlikely to win and even if by some chance he does, he probably wouldnt pull out of NAFTA. That is campaign rhetoric.
 

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links18 said:
All of that would be offset by pissed of Americans fleeing North.

Oh, and Trump is unlikely to win and even if by some chance he does, he probably wouldnt pull out of NAFTA. That is campaign rhetoric.
Very few Americans qualify to immigrate to Canada.
 

deerestlovelybear

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so if Trump really do repeal NAFTA, Candiam passports will be less appealing to 'skilled workers' and thus processing time will be improved. I think it is a good sign and these skilled workers will leave South after getting passport anyway, removing TN visa just get rid of those Canadian of convenience 'skilled workers'
 

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deerestlovelybear said:
so if Trump really do repeal NAFTA, Candiam passports will be less appealing to 'skilled workers' and thus processing time will be improved. I think it is a good sign and these skilled workers will leave South after getting passport anyway, removing TN visa just get rid of those Canadian of convenience 'skilled workers'
And tons of "old stock" Canadians working in the US with TN will be forced back to fight immigrants for jobs, that will be interesting to see too
 

deerestlovelybear

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itsmyid said:
And tons of "old stock" Canadians working in the US with TN will be forced back to fight immigrants for jobs, that will be interesting to see too
well so actually Trump does bring some good benefits for Canada, stopping the brain drain and help Canada economy with its shortage of really skilled workers
 

itsmyid

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deerestlovelybear said:
well so actually Trump does bring some good benefits for Canada, stopping the brain drain and help Canada economy with its shortage of really skilled workers
What brain drain? There is only a job drain here, too many young people can't find jobs with their degees and the only way is to go south, and after a few years when they developed enough skills on the job, they would already have green card and no longer need TN, so you won't get any "really skilled" workers, you will just get a lot more jobless graduates on social welfare
 

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Trump is full of BS about... almost everything. You can't take him seriously about anything he has said. He stands for nothing... other than his quest to get tons of publicity. He is a big sham. He's actually not as dangerous as people think. He really has no substance.
 

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keesio said:
Trump is full of BS about... almost everything. You can't take him seriously about anything he has said. He stands for nothing... other than his quest to get tons of publicity. He is a big sham. He's actually not as dangerous as people think. He really has no substance.
You mean he isn't an existential threat to civilization itself? Or a dangerous Russian puppet?
 

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Same reason many canadians can't live here out of whim.
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If Mr. Trump wins our election and he repeals NAFTA, no one will emigrate to canada as it is known to the world its a career suicide. Maybe people without decent education (Im really sorry for saying that), they'll have a party.
Are you in the right forum? This is a Canadian immigration and citizenship forum.

Canadians can live HERE, on a whim or otherwise, since this is Canada.

There is absolutely no chance Mr. Trump will win OUR election since he is not a Canadian.

Our election was last year. Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party won, and so he is our Prime Minister.

We don't do that President thing.

Politics south of our border are scary these days. The rhetoric edges on the insane, definitely is largely irrational, and one candidate in particular, the one obviously unfit for the office (unfit for just about any office of significance), tends to vacillate between jingoism and incoherent tirades. At least fifty million U.S. electors, and perhaps more than sixty million, will vote for the buffoon, or as many have described it, throw their electoral metaphor of a Molotov cocktail at the system. That's the really scary part: those many, many millions whose venturesome recklessness seems poised to wreak havoc on the world's economy and political stability: win or lose, there appears to be a deeply entrenched crash-the-system movement in the U.S. which really does seem capable of crashing the system.

This too shall pass. Surely. But at what cost? Who gets hurt, and how badly, in the meantime?

As for predicting future immigration to Canada, Minister McCallum has announced plans to facilitate even greater numbers of immigrants next year. There appears to be a vast, vast supply of people in the world who want to immigrate to Canada. (I get this. My sentiments exactly. I'm here. Wouldn't want it any other way.)

The one way in which a President Trump could have a negative impact on Canadian immigration is if his presidency does indeed trigger, as many fear, a serious global economic crisis, that is the sort of event which can have a dramatic impact on the capacity of the Canadian economy to support additional immigration and on the financial ability of people to immigrate to Canada.

Even those who do not believe in God might want to consider praying that Trump is beat so badly that the movement he has been leading loses momentum and fades, and some semblance of sanity emerges in American politics. (Yeah, I know, good luck with that.)
 

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links18 said:
You mean he isn't an existential threat to civilization itself? Or a dangerous Russian puppet?
No, he is not the anti-christ
 

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Are you in the right forum? This is a Canadian immigration and citizenship forum.

Canadians can live HERE, on a whim or otherwise, since this is Canada.

There is absolutely no chance Mr. Trump will win OUR election since he is not a Canadian.

Our election was last year. Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party won, and so he is our Prime Minister.

We don't do that President thing.

Politics south of our border are scary these days. The rhetoric edges on the insane, definitely is largely irrational, and one candidate in particular, the one obviously unfit for the office (unfit for just about any office of significance), tends to vacillate between jingoism and incoherent tirades. At least fifty million U.S. electors, and perhaps more than sixty million, will vote for the buffoon, or as many have described it, throw their electoral metaphor of a Molotov cocktail at the system. That's the really scary part: those many, many millions whose venturesome recklessness seems poised to wreak havoc on the world's economy and political stability: win or lose, there appears to be a deeply entrenched crash-the-system movement in the U.S. which really does seem capable of crashing the system.

This too shall pass. Surely. But at what cost? Who gets hurt, and how badly, in the meantime?

As for predicting future immigration to Canada, Minister McCallum has announced plans to facilitate even greater numbers of immigrants next year. There appears to be a vast, vast supply of people in the world who want to immigrate to Canada. (I get this. My sentiments exactly. I'm here. Wouldn't want it any other way.)

The one way in which a President Trump could have a negative impact on Canadian immigration is if his presidency does indeed trigger, as many fear, a serious global economic crisis, that is the sort of event which can have a dramatic impact on the capacity of the Canadian economy to support additional immigration and on the financial ability of people to immigrate to Canada.

Even those who do not believe in God might want to consider praying that Trump is beat so badly that the movement he has been leading loses momentum and fades, and some semblance of sanity emerges in American politics. (Yeah, I know, good luck with that.)
Well said! I totally agree, the markets and investors in general prefer stability. Although I doubt that if Trump wins, he will really do anything drastic as he claims, the general public will be worried and that reflects directly on the market. The outcome is another economic crisis, which we will feel in Canada like elsewhere in the world. During such periods, job offers dry out, and that is a direct blow to immigration. This is all speculation of course, we will all be glued to our tv sets next Tuesday's evening.
 

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If, as is moat likely to occur, Hillary wins, it might stop Trump, but it wont start Trumpism. In fact, it would probably only get worse. There was a candidate for President who could have possibly built a broad progressive coalition that neutralized right-wing populism, but the Democratic Party did him in. They have nobody to blame but themselves if she somehow loses--either next week or in four years.