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Rules have been changed ? Big change ?

cutemedo

Star Member
Jun 23, 2010
56
0
Peshawar,Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
I have heard that from 26th june 2010 we have to send along with forms all the supporting documents for example IELTS score,your degrees,Police certificate etc ?
I just want to confirm as i was about to apply and send the forms but now m just hung.. Please help !

Thanx
 

cutemedo

Star Member
Jun 23, 2010
56
0
Peshawar,Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Re: Rules have been changed ? Big change ? PLZ HELP

cutemedo said:
I have heard that from 26th june 2010 we have to send along with forms all the supporting documents for example IELTS score,your degrees,Police certificate etc ?
I just want to confirm as i was about to apply and send the forms but now m just hung.. Please help !

Thanx
 

rupeshhari

VIP Member
Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
yes, big change. Not only documentation changes but the NOCs on the list is different.
 

cutemedo

Star Member
Jun 23, 2010
56
0
Peshawar,Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
[size=10pt][size=10pt]So we have to send all the documents listed in APPENDIX A including Bank Statements etc ?[/size][/size]


But in Canadian immigration official site they have not given it much weightage and not written clearly that now we have to send all the supporting documents also with our initail forms.. They can make things much easier by clearly indicating new rules or changes but its not like this..
 

rupeshhari

VIP Member
Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
Yeah, i think the CIC website has a bit of info from the old process, some from the new process and its hard to say whether it was left there from the old process because it is the same or because they haven't updated it yet lol.
 

Leon

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Jun 13, 2008
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Definitely some big changes, see http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who-instructions.asp#list

The changes as far as I see in the NOC list is that the list of 38 is now the list of 29. They also cap the number of applications they will consider to 20,000 a year and maximum of 1,000 applications per occupation. I haven't seen there yet how they will choose which 20,000 or which 1,000 applications per occupation they will consider for processing in each 12 month period, the first to arrive or what. Before, if you applied under FSW, you were guaranteed to get in if you met the criteria but this seems that they are not guaranteeing that any more because of this cap.

There are 20 NOC's that have been cut from the old list leaving 18 and then 11 new NOC's have been added.

These NOC's have been cut from the list:
0111: Financial Managers
0213: Computer and Information Systems Managers
0311: Managers in Health Care
0632: Accommodation Service Managers
0711: Construction Managers
1111: Financial Auditors and Accountants
2113: Geologists, Geochemists and Geophysicists
2143: Mining Engineers
2144: Geological Engineers
2145: Petroleum Engineers
3141: Audiologists and Speech Language Pathologists
3143: Occupational Therapists
3151: Head Nurses and Supervisors
4121: University Professors
4131: College and Other Vocational Instructors
7213: Contractors and Supervisors, Pipefitting Trades
7217: Contractors and Supervisors, Heavy Construction Equipment Crews
7252: Steamfitters, Pipe fitters and Sprinkler System Installers
8221: Supervisors, Mining and Quarrying
9212: Supervisors, Petroleum, Gas and Chemical Processing and Utilities

Those that have been kept:
0631: Restaurant and Food Service Managers
3111: Specialist Physicians
3112: General Practitioners and Family Physicians
3142: Physiotherapists
3152: Registered Nurses
3215: Medical Radiation Technologists
3233: Licensed Practical Nurses
6241: Chefs
6242: Cooks
7215: Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades
7241: Electricians (Except Industrial and Power System)
7242: Industrial Electricians
7251: Plumbers
7265: Welders and Related Machine Operators
7312: Heavy-Duty Equipment Mechanics
7371: Crane Operators
7372: Drillers and Blasters – Surface Mining, Quarrying and Construction
8222: Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service

Those that have been added:
0811 Primary Production Managers (Except Agriculture)
1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management
1233 Insurance Adjusters and Claims Examiners
2121 Biologists and Related Scientists
2151 Architects
3113 Dentists
3131 Pharmacists
3222 Dental Hygienists & Dental Therapists
4151 Psychologists
4152 Social Workers
7216 Contractors and Supervisors, Mechanic Trades

Surely this is a big blow for the people who were getting ready to apply under a NOC that has just been cut but a stroke of luck for people who did not qualify before and whose NOC has just been added.
 

cutemedo

Star Member
Jun 23, 2010
56
0
Peshawar,Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
But i am still not clear about whether along with initial forms should i attach my all documents like my degrees, police certificate, bank statements etc ?

i was about to submit my initial forms tomorrow but now am stuck. i already have IELTS score but preparing other documents and bank statement needs time,can anyone please guide me what documents i have to attach with initial forms ?
 

Leon

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Jun 13, 2008
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Go to http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/skilled.asp and read their new application guide and document checklist and go on that because that is basically all you have. As far as I can see on the checklist, they added IELTS as something you should send to CIO but I don't see bank statements.

By the way, looks like they have also killed category 3 for FSW.
 

cutemedo

Star Member
Jun 23, 2010
56
0
Peshawar,Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
I am Pakistani national and currently residing in Pakistan. We have to send our initial forms to London. Do i have to follow visa office specific instructions ? they are given at London website and according to this guideline in Appendix A I HAVE TO SUBMIT ALL THE DOCUMENTS INCLUDING MY DEGREES ,BANK STATEMENTS,POLICE CERTIFICATES ETC.

Please help as m really confused and stuck.

Thanks.
 

rupeshhari

VIP Member
Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
cutemedo said:
I am Pakistani national and currently residing in Pakistan. We have to send our initial forms to London. Do i have to follow visa office specific instructions ? they are given at London website and according to this guideline in Appendix A I HAVE TO SUBMIT ALL THE DOCUMENTS INCLUDING MY DEGREES ,BANK STATEMENTS,POLICE CERTIFICATES ETC.

Please help as m really confused and stuck.

Thanks.
In order to answer you correctly, can you answer the following:
1) Are you the CIO stage or visa office stage? In other words, have you mailed anything to Sydney, Nova Scotia before?
2) Do you have a visa for London? why London?
 

cutemedo

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Jun 23, 2010
56
0
Peshawar,Pakistan
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
3112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Its given on CANADA IMMIGRATION SITE FOR PAKISTAN "Notice to applicants under the Economic Class (Federal and Quebec Skilled Worker, Entrepreneur, Self Employed, Investor, and Provincial Nominee)As of April 1, 2010, Economic applications from citizens or residents of Pakistan will be processed in London, United Kingdom. If you live in Pakistan and are applying under this category, send your application to London and not to Islamabad."

Thats why we have to send the initial forms to London.

I have not yet started immigration process,i was about to send my initial forms to London tomorrow.
 

upp942

Hero Member
May 27, 2010
574
10
USA
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo >> Ottawa
NOC Code......
3233
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-May-2010
Doc's Request.
01-Nov-2010
AOR Received.
23-May-2011
IELTS Request
submitted with initial application
Med's Request
02-May-2012 (post mark)
Med's Done....
24-May-2012
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
01-Nov-12
VISA ISSUED...
14-Nov-12
cutemedo said:
Its given on CANADA IMMIGRATION SITE FOR PAKISTAN "Notice to applicants under the Economic Class (Federal and Quebec Skilled Worker, Entrepreneur, Self Employed, Investor, and Provincial Nominee)As of April 1, 2010, Economic applications from citizens or residents of Pakistan will be processed in London, United Kingdom. If you live in Pakistan and are applying under this category, send your application to London and not to Islamabad."

Thats why we have to send the initial forms to London.

I have not yet started immigration process,i was about to send my initial forms to London tomorrow.
hi cutemedo

You do have to submit all the supporting documents with your initial application. However, everybody has to send their initial applications to the CIO.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/EG7.pdf (pages 35-36)
 

rupeshhari

VIP Member
Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
cutemedo said:
Its given on CANADA IMMIGRATION SITE FOR PAKISTAN "Notice to applicants under the Economic Class (Federal and Quebec Skilled Worker, Entrepreneur, Self Employed, Investor, and Provincial Nominee)As of April 1, 2010, Economic applications from citizens or residents of Pakistan will be processed in London, United Kingdom. If you live in Pakistan and are applying under this category, send your application to London and not to Islamabad."

Thats why we have to send the initial forms to London.

I have not yet started immigration process,i was about to send my initial forms to London tomorrow.
If you have not started the immigration process, you should read through the instructions carefully. I think they now want all documents to be send to Nova Scotia first with you indicating London as your visa office. I don't think this means that you send your initial forms to London. I think it means you send it to Nova Scotia with London as your visa office. Does that make sense?
 

himanshu2277

Star Member
Apr 16, 2010
179
35
Boston
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo , NY
NOC Code......
0213
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22-12-2009
Doc's Request.
15-03-2010
IELTS Request
sent - Done
File Transfer...
done
Med's Request
Waiting
Med's Done....
Waiting
Interview........
Namaste...!
Passport Req..
Namaste...!
VISA ISSUED...
Ohh GOD...!
LANDED..........
Namaste...!
this means no more 0213 in NOC list, we have last chance to submit all docs within 120days. my god...
 

immigration1

Star Member
Feb 5, 2010
125
21
San Diego
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo USA
NOC Code......
0811 - Primary Production Managers (Except Agriculture)
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
2nd AOR "In-process"
IELTS Request
Sent CIO - CHC VO
File Transfer...
Yes
Med's Request
no
Med's Done....
no
Interview........
no
Passport Req..
no
VISA ISSUED...
no
what about NOC 0213 , so now new applicants will never apply for NOC 0213? ohh no...
Immigration1