Residency obligations for PR renewal

[dpenabill]

Thanks a lot for a detailed response!
After several back and forth to close loose ends oversea and to comply with the RO my parents have moved here permanently. They been here for almost year and a half. To be honest they need the card only for travel reasons, otherwise we would just wait to the citizenship….
Thanks for the idea to be some sort of “guarantor”. I never thought about it….

My only question for if you don’t mind. My dad have submitted tax return for 2024. The NOA is not yet issued as he’s been audited. Not a big deal as it’s in process and will be finalized soon. We do have audit letter not NOA….would sending this letter be too risky as an evidence (with explanation)?
Thanks a lot again!

I am no expert and not qualified to give advice. I doubt an audit letter would be risky but frankly I am not the one to say.

In the situation you describe, it really is a don't overthink things scene.

A PR who is well established, settled in Canada for more than a year, and who is in compliance with the RO, should have almost nothing to worry about.

Technically two bank statements showing the PR's address in Canada would suffice to make a complete application. If one is from early 2024 and the other very recent, best guess is that will be sufficient to have a new PR card issued unless a processing agent or officer sees some reason to doubt the travel history (so it is important to be precisely accurate and complete, as best as possible).

If they have cards showing they have current health care coverage, copies of those would be good things to submit (a valid health card is evidence of receiving benefits from Canadian government programs). This is better evidence than a bank statement (not as good as evidence of working a job in Canada).

However, if they barely meet the RO, and they are relying on numerous short visits here to count, they might NOT qualify for automated decision-making and their applications could be considered complex, resulting in a significantly longer processing time. It might help to wait a month or two more to make the applications, and if they currently barely meet the RO it would be wise to not travel abroad anytime soon anyway.

 

[Copingwithlife]

Please read the chain before making such assumptions. After @Ponga suggested that the evidence doesn’t need to cover the entire period I wondered if the healthcare eligibility and related stuff would be a good second piece as a proof of government benefit. They been here for 431+ days man…
I will appreciate if don’t reply to my chain anymore. Not an ideal and unnecessary conversation. Thank you

Since you seem a tad bit prickly, I’ll give you a heads up

I used to work for the CRA . If they’ve pulled your return for audit , you have more things to worry about

People think returns are audited randomly ?

There’s ALWAYS a reason returns are pulled

I’d appreciate you don’t reply to this as you mentioned

 

[MVP77]

I am no expert and not qualified to give advice. I doubt an audit letter would be risky but frankly I am not the one to say.

In the situation you describe, it really is a don't overthink things scene.

A PR who is well established, settled in Canada for more than a year, and who is in compliance with the RO, should have almost nothing to worry about.

Technically two bank statements showing the PR's address in Canada would suffice to make a complete application. If one is from early 2024 and the other very recent, best guess is that will be sufficient to have a new PR card issued unless a processing agent or officer sees some reason to doubt the travel history (so it is important to be precisely accurate and complete, as best as possible).

If they have cards showing they have current health care coverage, copies of those would be good things to submit (a valid health card is evidence of receiving benefits from Canadian government programs). This is better evidence than a bank statement (not as good as evidence of working a job in Canada).

However, if they barely meet the RO, and they are relying on numerous short visits here to count, they might NOT qualify for automated decision-making and their applications could be considered complex, resulting in a significantly longer processing time. It might help to wait a month or two more to make the applications, and if they currently barely meet the RO it would be wise to not travel abroad anytime soon anyway.

Thanks a lot again!

Just to give some clarity on the overall presence.
They have got a total of almost 800 days in the past 5 years. Out of these days 1 year and 5 months is a full time permanent life in Canada. Thousands of people are on the same path.
I don’t feel like they have outstanding circumstances and seem like they line up well with the days requirements.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

 

[MVP77]

Since you seem a tad bit prickly, I’ll give you a heads up

I used to work for the CRA . If they’ve pulled your return for audit , you have more things to worry about

People think returns are audited randomly ?

There’s ALWAYS a reason returns are pulled

I’d appreciate you don’t reply to this as you mentioned

as per an old saying: You can leave a place (CRA in your case) but the place (CRA…) would never leave you….

 

[armoured]

Please read the chain before making such assumptions. After @Ponga suggested that the evidence doesn’t need to cover the entire period I wondered if the healthcare eligibility and related stuff would be a good second piece as a proof of government benefit. They been here for 431+ days man…
I will appreciate if don’t reply to my chain anymore. Not an ideal and unnecessary conversation. Thank you

Don't take it personally, just some people have obsessions. Some people are obsessed with sex, some with the idea that someone, somewhere received healthcare they shouldn't.

The difference is I don't post about my obsession all the time.

 

[MVP77]

Don't take it personally, just some people have obsessions. Some people are obsessed with sex, some with the idea that someone, somewhere received healthcare they shouldn't.

The difference is I don't post about my obsession all the time.

I know right….it seems to be both obsessions you noted. Has been f…..g my brain to hold me accountable for others who f….d the system

 

[Copingwithlife]

as per an old saying: You can leave a place (CRA in your case) but the place (CRA…) would never leave you….

Slow clap

And that’s not even the saying .

 

[abff08f4813c]

Stop overthinking. They ask for two pieces of evidence. They provide some examples of the types of things. Provide the two pieces of evidence. Stop trying to figure out how to plug gaps when they haven't asked you to.

To be fair the instructions are worded a bit confusingly in some places. See https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...newal-change-gender-identifier.html#appendixA

> Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) Notice of Assessment for the five (5) years immediately before the application

At a glance that reads to me like you need to submit give NoAs that cover the five years before the application, and since an NoA only covers a year, that would be five NoAs to submit.

The correct interpretation of course is that they mean only an NoA from the last five years should be used as a piece of evidence, as older ones won't cover the required period. But this is a better wording:

"Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) Notice of Assessments, assessing one of the five (5) years that are immediately before the application"

In fact, I'd also interpret this wording to mean to cover the entire period: it's just that you should find two pieces of evidence that covers each and every day of the five years.

> You must provide copies of 2 pieces of evidence that can show you have met the residency in Canada in the five (5) years immediately before the application

Better if it said,

"You must provide copies of 2 pieces of evidence that each can show that you have been resident in Canada at some point in time in the five (5) years immediately before the application."

 

[armoured]

Better if it said,

Yes. There are lots of things in the world that should be better.

Like the search function here so people wouldn't have to re-hash the same discussions over and over.

 

[abff08f4813c]

Yes. There are lots of things in the world that should be better.

Like the search function here so people wouldn't have to re-hash the same discussions over and over.

I mean, this is just a modest forum, it's not like it's the fediverse in all it's glory ... but point taken.