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Re: FSW 2014 Applicants Timeline- Lets Network Here.

deep1985

Star Member
Jan 20, 2015
192
16
123
India
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
2131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-07-2014
Doc's Request.
SENT ALREADY
Nomination.....
29-10-2014
AOR Received.
11-03-2015
File Transfer...
11-03-2015
Med's Request
27-03-2015
Med's Done....
01-04-2015 (TL-8th April)
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
13-05-2015 (PP submitted at VFS-18/05/15 & PP Collected on 25/05/15)
VISA ISSUED...
12-05-2015
LANDED..........
01-07-2015 (Canada Day)
Saurabh113 said:
Got this info from other thread regarding Background verification.. Thought to share here...

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There are total 9 factors that can cause an applicant inadmissible to Canada during background check.

1. Criminality
2. Organized Criminality (Org Crime in GCMS Note)
3. Security
4. Human and International Rights Violation (HIRV in GCMS Note)
5. Health
6. Financial Reasons
7. Misrepresentation
8. Non-compliance with Act
9. Inadmissible Family Members

Here I explained only about the misrepresentation related background checks which is one of the major background verification faced by many FSWP applicants. I am using the word “Verification” here to relate the Background Check. CHC do verification not only for skeptical applications but also to the randomly selected applications.



Misrepresentation

An officer who suspects that an applicant may be inadmissible for misrepresentation should carefully document the reasons for the concern in their notes. The officer then forward doubtful cases to Economic Class Unit where it undergo different verification processes as mentioned below to find out fraudulent documents. Misrepresented cases are rejected under IRPA Section A40 Act. The reason behind the delay of processing of some applications can be directly attached with the involvement of Economic Class Unit.


Type of Verifications

A. Site Visit (Physical Verification)
B. Telephonic
C. Interviews
D. Supporting Documents Request



A. Site Visit (Physical Verification)

Site visit is found to be one of the important means to tackle frauds. Visa offices do site visit for the current employer and previous employers (In case of claiming points based on skill O, A or B) of the primary applicant. The visa officer verify applicant's identity from the person who issued the referral letter, HR Manager, Colleagues, Receptionist and why not even from the security person. Last year FSWP seen visits in Punjab, Gujarat, Delhi, Karnataka, Andrapradesh, Tamil Nadu, Kerala etc.


B. Telephonic

1. Employer

The visa officer can ring to the number given in the reference letter. It can be to the reception or to the person who issued you the reference letter. Officer will ask primary applicant's employment related queries to employer. The visa officer may treat application as misrepresentation if they find any mismatch between the answers given by the employer in comparison to that given in the reference letter.

2. Primary Applicant

Visa officer can call directly to your mobile or land line number to verify your employment, family relation etc. Most of the questions here similar to that in the interview.


C. Interview

The visa officer can call the applicant for interview if he/she is not satisfied with the documents submitted to CIO or not satisfied with site visit/telephonic interview. The officer uses interview to raise all the concerns relating to employment, family etc. Usually the visa officer disclose the applicant about his/her interview result just after the interview. In case of positive outcome the applicant can get Medical/PPR in few days time.

D. Supporting Documents Request

The visa officer contact the person in writing about the supporting or additional documents the officer required for further processing of the application. VO will give at least 30 days from the time of receipt of the officer's notice to respond. Commonly asked supporting documents are 6 months bank statement showing the PoF, relationship proof (marriage photos), employment related documents (3 months salary slip, offer letter, appointment letter, tax related docs, renewed referral letter) etc.


Few Examples from Last Year Applicants


A. Site Visit

Example 1 (Random Verification)

I have an very important info to be shared to all of the members. We are from Chennai. Members from NDVO came to my husband's office (who is the main applicant) for personal visit and had spoke to his boss who was the reference person and also one on one with my husband for about half an hour. 2 were foreigner guys and 1 indian girl. They came around 8:30 pm last night. They just walked inside the office. They wanted security and front office to identify my husband whether he was working over there and then asked for his boss. When they introduced themselves to his boss and the reason for their visit they had mentioned that it was just a part of the process and this time they have chosen 30 members and out of which my husband is one among them.
In fact this was also very shocking for us. They introduced themselves with their names and they had all our immigration related file details like the cat we applied, ref person name and number and also the consultancy details. our consultant is an ICCRC-CRCIC members based out in vancouver and they have branches in India.

Just keeping fingers crossed and hoping for the best...Rest left to God!!!


Example 2 (Targeted Verification)

I am in a very tricky situation got medical request ppr and rprf on .......
as my bad luck stuck me in a situation where I got a background check yesterday that went terribly wrong as i was on leave for 2- 3 months new staff and messed up all guys help CHC people left with the impression that I presented wrong employment information guys please help this is the only hope I dont know now whether to submit medicals and pp.
i am too numb to do anything i was thinking to leave this job for sometime and my employer knew it all there were some issues in the family as well so I totally overlooked and may be too ignorant once i received meds I was so relaxed it did not strike me that anything like this could happen my noc ....... and VO new delhi it seems to me that game over for me as they made to write my employer that she has done a favour by giving me the work experience letter they enquired like CBI OR FBI and literaally put words in my employers mouth and new assistant finished all for me GUYS.


B. Telephonic Verification

Example 3

My HR informed yesterday there was a call from someone 4-5 days back asking them to transfer the phone to me as they wanted to speak with me. Unfortunately I was out of office then so the HR informed them about the same. My HR had asked them repeatedly who they were and what their contact details were but they hadn't obliged and said they would call back again. Just, as a pre-cursor, they have called the receptionist, asked for me and she wasn't aware who i was, so she just transferred the call to the HR. No call again so far. Things looking bleak folks. Tensed!!! Really Tensed!!! Have my medicals tomorrow. This has to be from NDVO as nobody , not even my friends are aware of my plans.


C. Interview

Example 4 (Negative)

you are all very kind. here is a bit of history

I work in ............... in corporate planning and budget section. our daily activity is nothing crunching numbers and developing forecasts.

the VO was somewhat pre determined not to get me through, he did not ask for any documentation and when I highlighted he unwillingly took in my JD. the questioning started with bit of my history, I am a qualified CPA, ACMA, LFA and a masters in strategic management.

he asked me what I do, I explained a bit of my current role. my information was bit technical as well because it relates to oil and my previous role for automotive sector.

anyways at near end of the interview he said "we had a concern about your application as not in line with NOC ......... and I am not satisfied with your responses" I responded in asking which area can I explain further, he said " your answers are broad" I replied I am only answering your broad level question do you have any specific questions to ask for example you asked about capital management, do you want me to explain about individual perspective a corporate perspective or any product portfolio do you have in mind where I can be more specific. De had nothing to say.

he was typing everything I was saying, I asked him if you can read through what you have written !!! he had a good typing speed but when he started reading I felt the writing was very fragmented and not making any sense......I did make sense!!!!

well our interview last for more than one hour and 10 minutes!! I kept explaining and he kept writing...
at the very end may be because he did not want to give a bad feeling he said we will review and get back to you. at that moment he threw away my paper under his desk like rubbish. I said these are originals if he be kind enough to return and take photocopies instead...which he agreed !!!

so this is the unbiased version of the story. what I feel strongly is that we were not able to connect or may be I was too focused on explaining what I knew rather than what he wanted to listen....!!

I think the decision is final at his end, it was more or less the same case at the start of the interview ............. but this is all very confusing why did CIC accepted my application and why I was sent a confirmation letter. then all of a sudden an interview which was of the generic requirement as was sent o you all.....

I will request for a judicial review of the application and the scenario !!

let me know your thoughts !!


Example 5 (Positive)

Well, about my interview experience

It was just a pleasant discussion. the man appeared to be just awesome, we made good contact during the interview and that is very important, I kept smiling and cool and answer promptly. I was prepared to discuss many points which I prepared BUT i couldn't get the chance to speak about it, so, if you are doing the same mistake by trying to make list of points to talk about FORGET ABOUT IT. it was bad idea.
All what you need to do is:
1. Prepare the files by your self
2. Make two files, primary and supportive
3. KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR PAPERS
4. Bring anything you think that it would help
5. Stay cool and make personal contact and for sure always make an eye contact.
6. Put your hands on the top of each others on the table so that the man can see and judge your body language.
7. Bring samples of your work, it would help
8. The files with protected transparent plastic sheets is very good idea, arrange the documents in the order they requested in the interview letter

So, all my time went into JD discussion in general and paper check and questions to make sure that I am genuine applicant nothing more, although it went for around an hour because I have 4 employment experience.


As many said here, if you are the one who prepared the file and you are genuine in terms of you made the duties in your reference letters and for sure that JDs does match the NOC details then the interview will be such pleasant one.


Congrats to my colleagues who cleared it and best of wishes for the guys to clear it ISA soon.


D. Supporting Documents Request


Example 6

Hey guys I did my medicals on ........ and submitted my ppt,fees ,required documents n marrage pics on ........ consultant got call from embassy to send the marriage pics again which reached on .............since than no information and no decision made...


FAQs


1.How many years of inadmissibility to Canada in-case the misrepresentation gets caught?
5 years ban and inadmissibility for the primary applicant and dependents for any kind of Canada visa(Previous 2 years has been revised to 5 years in the year 2013)


2.How many days it takes for my file to come out of the Economic Class Unit?
It can takes many months. However, based on the current immigration system we can expect the time require for this may not be longer than 4-5 months.


3.I have my sister in Canada but I am self sufficient with my own points and don't want to claim points under adaptability. Can I hide the relative details from CIC and tick the column corresponding to No relatives at the time I fill the FSW form?
No, if you hide the details you are making direct misrepresentation to CIC. Claiming adaptability points is your wish but should not hide the fact from CIC.


4.My site visit/telephonic interview went well. Still I haven't received any positive notification from VO after 2-3 months of waiting. Do I have to be panic?
You do not have to be panic if it takes more time to hear from VO about your application after the background check. Usually your file moves from one BF'd to the next BF'd. After your background verification CHC mark the next BF'd to give you medical/PPR or additional document request. It can be many months depending upon the complexity of your visa and visa officer.


5.Can the visa officer visit my previous employer if I am not claiming points from them?
There is very negligible chance CHC do verification for previous employer if you are not claiming points with that experience.


6.Are the files at VO moving first come first served basis same like in CIC?
Partially. Usually the files follow FIFO at CHC. But here are two cases which can hinder the cases of application.
1. If the application is forwarded for background assessment it divert from the FIFO queue.
2. Minister has the sole power to fast track processing of some NOCs or applications based of the changing labour market. Ministerial instructions also enabled CHCs to prioritize processing of applications such that people who applied to the skilled worker program after 2010 can expect their applications to be processed faster than those who applied before.


7.Can the visa officer reject my file directly without giving me a chance to explain my part?
No. Visa officer can not reject your file without informing you about the reason of rejection by writing or through interview. You will get a chance to explain your part at this time.


8.Can the permanent residency or the citizenship be revoked in-case the misrepresentation is found out in the future?
Yes.
Hi ,
Nice one to share.
+1 for it.
At what stage it happens exactly ?
Before MR ??
Or can it happen after MR too??
Advise
 

Saurabh113

Hero Member
Nov 16, 2014
334
39
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO- File Transferred to WVO by CIC
NOC Code......
0113
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
31-10-2014
Nomination.....
PER 30-01-2015
AOR Received.
18-02-2015
IELTS Request
Sent Along with application
File Transfer...
2nd Line updated on 10-04-2015-"We started processing your application on 07-04-2015"
Med's Request
30-04-2015
Med's Done....
06-05-2015. 3rd Line updated on 14-05-15. "Medical results have been received".
Interview........
Decision made 23-07-15
Passport Req..
24-07-15
VISA ISSUED...
Submitted Passports- 03-08-15
LANDED..........
15-09-2015
deep1985 said:
Hi ,
Nice one to share.
+1 for it.
At what stage it happens exactly ?
Before MR ??
Or can it happen after MR too??
Advise
As per this.. it can happen after MR also.. some eg after MR has been shared above..
 

raj3264

Member
Mar 13, 2015
16
5
Hi have one query..... Got my third line update
But my daughter who is 5 year old .....passport is getting expired on march 2016 ...can we renew once we land in Canada or is it better to renew now itself worried if it may affect the processibg lead time
Please guide me
 

ajayrampal

Star Member
Feb 9, 2013
71
11
123
Phagwara
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2132
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22/05/2014
IELTS Request
S-8 R-8 L-9 W-6.5
File Transfer...
Wife's File Added 21/02/2015
Med's Request
02/12/2014
Med's Done....
10/12/2014 - 02/04/2015 (Wife's)
Passport Req..
27/02/2015 ...... DM - 20.05.2015 (Wife's PPR: 29/June/2015)
VISA ISSUED...
02/06/2015
LANDED..........
July 2015
Reposting My Question

I got PPR on 27/02, but added wife's document after marriage on 21/02 (after PPR) . . . . . So, I am main applicant and she is my dependent

On 15/03/2015, my 'Decision Made' changed to 'In Process' . . . . .

She has recently completed medicals and paid her RPRF (online) . . . .

I notice that she has got separate UCI number (which is not working atm) . . . . . . on IME form given to doctor, her UCI was different (I am not sure why is that)

1.) So, my question is it normal for a spouse whose file was added later to have a different UCI than main applicant and

2.) How do I tell whether her medicals were received. . . . .

My ECAS still shows 'In Process' but with all 4 lines (till A Decision has been made . . . . . . )

Cheers,
AJ
 

babu2013

Hero Member
Jun 11, 2014
212
19
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
abc90 said:
Prepare a book like project work. All with photos, visual representation.

Any proof of ur employment in 1st month
Ur achievements & imp projects u handled covers NOC
Additional details covers ur noc all points
Photos with ur superiors & colleagues
Ur email inbox page, ur sign in any doc or system approvals in some software showing ur name.
Ur strengths overall career (it sd be covered in previous pages).

Some additional ref letter.
Linked in recommendations from ur colleagues or boss.

All sd be genuine.

Send it u ll be through.
hi mates, please share your experience in case of procedural fairness/additional document request..........in last February I received a procedural fairness letter from my VO of SGVO. It says VO is not satisfied with my job experience because of insufficient evidence. So I sent all relevant evidences like forwarding letter, updated experience letter, HR recommendation, pay stubs, Performance Appraisal copy, office photos, some copies of JD related works etc etc... My documents reached on 6th march. Still waiting and praying for update......worried. What is the possibility of getting documents accepted in case of PF.........what are the reasons of delaying....
 

palakpatel911

Champion Member
Aug 21, 2014
1,428
621
Ahmedabad - Gujarat - India
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22-05-2014
Nomination.....
10-09-2014 - PER
File Transfer...
21-10-2014
Med's Request
29-10-2014
Med's Done....
03-12-2014 - ECAS
Passport Req..
06-02-2015
VISA ISSUED...
16-02-2015
LANDED..........
13-03-2015
raj3264 | get stamping first on old PP
You still have time before PP expires, so both options are open for you

1. either can renew and send the new copies to VO at the time for PP request
2. or get visa stamping on the same old PP and once here you can renew it from indian embassay.

I had the same situation, didn't renewed my daughter's got the stamping, landed here, and now i will proceed for her renewal.

raj3264 said:
Hi have one query..... Got my third line update
But my daughter who is 5 year old .....passport is getting expired on march 2016 ...can we renew once we land in Canada or is it better to renew now itself worried if it may affect the processibg lead time
Please guide me
 

maplezone

Hero Member
Mar 2, 2015
272
8
Seniors...


I received PER nearly two months ago ... Then I called CIC and came to know that almost one month ago from today ... my file has been delivered to the London visa office ...
When I enter my UCI number ... it only displays that .. .My file has been received at this date ... Keeping these details in mind .. I have the following queries ...


1) I have renewed my passport , 2 weeks ago ... as my previous passport was damaged , so I need to inform this information to the London visa office .. which I can do by raising a CSE ... But my question is that ... What to write exactly in the CSE ? and is this the right time to inform them about my passport renewal ? Or shall I wait until I receive some other email ... ?


2) I claimed my points for adaptability , so for proving the PROOF OF RELATIONSHIP factor , I submitted 3-4 supporting documents , as the birth certifcate of my canadian relative is not available .. so I asked him to write a declaration letter claiming my biological relation towards him ... Having said that , due to lack of time .. I submitted my application ... But meanwhile I also applied for the FRC ( Family registration certificate ), which is now ready and it is issued by National Database and Registration Authority - NADRA ( A governmental body ) ... The certifcate verifies my biological relationship towards my Canadian relative ... so ... I was planning to send this certificate as well ... So that there will be no objection towards PROOF OF RELATIONSHIP factor ... Kindly advice me , how to inform or how to send this certificate to the London visa office ? and which is the right time to send this ? Shall I send it now or after sometime ? And a photocopy of this certificate will be okay or I should/must send the original certificate ?

PLEASE ADVICE EXPERTS !
 

future_canadian

VIP Member
May 10, 2014
5,558
297
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
dhawalashokpatel said:
Hello Friends,

I have applied on 9 Sept 2014 Rec PER on 21 Jan 2014 and AOR from Colombo from 5 th March NOC 1114 still no second line update niether any MR time is very frustrating when i see NDVO is running fast then CVO .Dont understand what is going on pls guide me what to do its already more than 100 days PER and still no MR................
Kindly share details who are in same timeline or i am the only one................. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :( :( :( :( :( :(
Your situation is still well within the typical experience. It was 2 months from AOR to medicals for me. There's nothing to do but be patient, and I know how hard it is.
 

future_canadian

VIP Member
May 10, 2014
5,558
297
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
pr4vj said:
Hey, what is the best choice for first stay till getting PR card, Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver?. I though Toronto would be ideal because of multicultural environment.
Any of the larger cities in Canada is a multicultural environment. Only small towns in rural areas are less multicultural. I suggest going to where you want to live, so you can learn the city and begin looking for permanent housing and employment.
 

future_canadian

VIP Member
May 10, 2014
5,558
297
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
maplezone said:
Seniors...


I received PER nearly two months ago ... Then I called CIC and came to know that almost one month ago from today ... my file has been delivered to the London visa office ...
When I enter my UCI number ... it only displays that .. .My file has been received at this date ... Keeping these details in mind .. I have the following queries ...


1) I have renewed my passport , 2 weeks ago ... as my previous passport was damaged , so I need to inform this information to the London visa office .. which I can do by raising a CSE ... But my question is that ... What to write exactly in the CSE ? and is this the right time to inform them about my passport renewal ? Or shall I wait until I receive some other email ... ?


2) I claimed my points for adaptability , so for proving the PROOF OF RELATIONSHIP factor , I submitted 3-4 supporting documents , as the birth certifcate of my canadian relative is not available .. so I asked him to write a declaration letter claiming my biological relation towards him ... Having said that , due to lack of time .. I submitted my application ... But meanwhile I also applied for the FRC ( Family registration certificate ), which is now ready and it is issued by National Database and Registration Authority - NADRA ( A governmental body ) ... The certifcate verifies my biological relationship towards my Canadian relative ... so ... I was planning to send this certificate as well ... So that there will be no objection towards PROOF OF RELATIONSHIP factor ... Kindly advice me , how to inform or how to send this certificate to the London visa office ? and which is the right time to send this ? Shall I send it now or after sometime ? And a photocopy of this certificate will be okay or I should/must send the original certificate ?

PLEASE ADVICE EXPERTS !
Raising a CSE with both items is perfectly fine. Just explain the situations very clearly, include your name, date of birth, UCI and application number and that will suffice.
 

Avinir

Hero Member
Nov 4, 2014
419
82
124
New Delhi
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2133
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-08-2014
Doc's Request.
Not Requested
Nomination.....
PER on 5th Dec 2014
AOR Received.
Not Applicable
IELTS Request
Attached with Application
File Transfer...
VO started application processing on 11th Feb 15
Med's Request
13th March 2015
Med's Done....
17th March 2014, 3rd Line update on 26th March
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
29th April 2015, Passport Submitted on 30th April
VISA ISSUED...
8th May 2015
LANDED..........
Landing Planned around 15~20th June
Dear Friends,
Check current status of NDVO Aug Applicants

 

Avinir

Hero Member
Nov 4, 2014
419
82
124
New Delhi
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2133
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-08-2014
Doc's Request.
Not Requested
Nomination.....
PER on 5th Dec 2014
AOR Received.
Not Applicable
IELTS Request
Attached with Application
File Transfer...
VO started application processing on 11th Feb 15
Med's Request
13th March 2015
Med's Done....
17th March 2014, 3rd Line update on 26th March
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
29th April 2015, Passport Submitted on 30th April
VISA ISSUED...
8th May 2015
LANDED..........
Landing Planned around 15~20th June
Dear Friends
Below is the status of applicants who got their 3rd line in March

 

baykus

Hero Member
Feb 11, 2015
217
31
Category........
Visa Office......
Paris
NOC Code......
2131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-11-2014
Nomination.....
14-02-2015
Med's Request
12-03-2015
Med's Done....
13-03-2015
Passport Req..
08-06-2015
VISA ISSUED...
11-06-2015
LANDED..........
18-08-2015
ajayrampal said:
Reposting My Question

I got PPR on 27/02, but added wife's document after marriage on 21/02 (after PPR) . . . . . So, I am main applicant and she is my dependent

On 15/03/2015, my 'Decision Made' changed to 'In Process' . . . . .

She has recently completed medicals and paid her RPRF (online) . . . .

I notice that she has got separate UCI number (which is not working atm) . . . . . . on IME form given to doctor, her UCI was different (I am not sure why is that)

1.) So, my question is it normal for a spouse whose file was added later to have a different UCI than main applicant and

2.) How do I tell whether her medicals were received. . . . .

My ECAS still shows 'In Process' but with all 4 lines (till A Decision has been made . . . . . . )

Cheers,
AJ
1. all spouses have different uci.

2. you can not follow when it is not parallel to your file..I guess.