^ This post is one with good raw data.I am sooo glad that this happened. 3rd draw from this one we will see 460s cut off based on my extrapolated guess. I am on 466
Change from last draw Change from last draw Change from last draw Change from last draw Change from last draw Change from last draw Change from last draw Change from last draw 601-1200 448 601-1200 479 31 601-1200 65 -414 601-1200 461 396 601-1200 482 21 601-1200 310 -172 601-1200 288 -22 601-1200 316 28 601-1200 360 44 501-600 254 501-600 390 136 501-600 213 -177 501-600 318 105 501-600 417 99 501-600 433 16 501-600 561 128 501-600 543 -18 501-600 652 109 491-500 197 491-500 317 120 491-500 190 -127 491-500 267 77 491-500 356 89 491-500 329 -27 491-500 411 82 491-500 425 14 491-500 483 58 481-490 421 481-490 910 489 481-490 746 -164 481-490 924 178 481-490 1,117 193 481-490 1,168 51 481-490 1,355 187 481-490 1,429 74 481-490 1,600 171 471-480 1,047 471-480 2,423 1,376 471-480 2,233 -190 471-480 2,635 402 471-480 3,140 505 471-480 3,311 171 471-480 3,803 492 471-480 4,015 212 471-480 4,561 546 461-470 9,437 461-470 9,265 -172 461-470 8,088 -1177 461-470 7,157 -931 461-470 7,053 -104 461-470 6,986 -67 461-470 7,250 264 461-470 7,290 40 461-470 7,468 178 451-460 10,502 451-460 10,711 209 451-460 10,949 238 451-460 9,725 -1224 451-460 8,746 -979 451-460 8,070 -676 451-460 8,135 65 451-460 8,085 -50 451-460 8,191 106 2189 -2011 -997 -176 -704 1196 300 1212
Maybe you should search in 228’s? E.g. 2281 gives the example of web technician.Hi Guys,
I am working as a BMC remedy web application support team (operations support) member for the past 3 years. Can anyone please help me what should be my NOC code. Pls help.
That's definitely not going to be an issue - I assume you are the primary applicant and her experience is outside Canada (i.e. it gives you no CRS points).Hi,
I have a question, I have deleted my wife's experience from my express entry profile and will add in personal history once we receive the ITA, because getting a reference letter is difficult. Thr is no issue in doing this correct. Kindly guide.
Thanks
I agree, but, the raw data provided by the 2019 IRCC report indicates that the ratio between CEC/FSW in the 470+ range is pretty much 50:50. There were a few draws where FSWs were the majority, and a few where the CECs were the majority (indeed, the CECs usually are the majority). So, maybe 60% CECs at most. But never 70%.^ This post is one with good raw data.
We should be considering the trends of the last 2 draws or so, and not from before when we were in the middle of pandemic shut-downs and authorities were fumbling. Things are certainly moving much faster now with all parties involved processing requirements faster than they used to from March to May.
Over the last two-week period between draws, there was an increase of ~920 profiles in the pool from 470+. HOWEVER, this only represents the inflow of FSW candidates because the CEC additions would have been picked up in the draw and wouldn't be reflected in the pool numbers. We know from IRCC reports that CEC candidates form 60-70% of the pool in the 470+ range. So the total inflow can be extrapolated to be approximately 2,200 with 2,500 as a highly conservative estimate.
Over the two-week period before that, the equivalent number was 410 for FSW profiles, so approx. 1,200 for all profiles combined.
Over the two-week period before that, it was ~900 again for FSW, so maybe 2,200 for all profiles combined.
So there's a good chance there would be 2,500 new profiles in the pool between July 8 and July 22 at 470+ scores. With the 4,000 odd profiles left-over in that range, it's likely the cut-off will be 473-475. (I've taken some further approximations for profiles per score to arrive at this range).
For those who have scores that are, say, less than 468 or so, it really is a good idea to try to improve your score by whatever means possible. Because as the data demonstrates, the inflow really isn't down to a trickle. Canada immigration remains extremely popular and there are plenty of people with scores above 470+ entering the pool every day.
Hmm you are right. It’s 475+ where it was 55% CEC. For 470+ it’s 50%. So my highly conservative estimate became even more conservative then. Which means that it’s possible that we could see 472 and then 468/469 in the next two draws.I agree, but, the raw data provided by the 2019 IRCC report indicates that the ratio between CEC/FSW in the 470+ range is pretty much 50:50. There were a few draws where FSWs were the majority, and a few where the CECs were the majority (indeed, the CECs usually are the majority). So, maybe 60% CECs at most. But never 70%.
It's also important to notice that the ~900 increase could also be of CECs, not necessarily FSWs. Truth is: we can only guess.
Yet, I expect your explanation will help those people who say "there's no way the score will not deep into the 450-460 territory" understand that things are not as positive as it looks like.
There's hope for a decrease in the score, but nowhere near as drastic as some are expecting.
On my most positive prediction, I think the 469-470 could be achieved on the draw of August 5th. But honestly, for myself, i'm not expecting anything below 470 before August 19th or even September 2nd (considering 3,900 ITAs will be kept)
Who would be such an expert? I am a little confused about my NOC as well, hence want to make sure.People do advice 70%. I will suggest that you give your reference letter to an expert for perusal. It may be that you are matching the duties with a wrong NOC.
Yeah, say 10000 every fortnight. Okay, can you tell me where Everything is opening up?Hmm you are right. It’s 475+ where it was 55% CEC. For 470+ it’s 50%. So my highly conservative estimate became even more conservative then. Which means that it’s possible that we could see 472 and then 468/469 in the next two draws.
But it’s too risky to expect the inflow above 470+ to remain at 2,000 per fortnight beyond a month from now. Everything is opening up and I won’t be surprised if the inflow reaches the pre covid levels by late August, which was 4,000 per fortnight.
Yeah, say 10000 every fortnight. Okay, can you tell me where Everything is opening up?
Have you visited Indian Universities now and do you really know that Indian Universities are welcoming people and handing them transcripts the way they used to give before.
Are you confident that every Tom, Dick, and Harry is able to write IELTS throughout the world?
Majority of the 470s, I would say are from the US (H1B Indians), and can you show me proof of IELTS happening in any state, county, or town in the US?
Do you think WES, CES, IQAS, ICES staff have all resumed their in-office operations? If yes is the answer, read this mate - https://learn.utoronto.ca/comparative-education-service-apply-now/ces-covid-19-updates
https://www.bcit.ca/ices/processing-time/
More than all, Pencil/Paper IELTS (which houses 70% of dudes compared to CD IELTS) has not resumed anywhere in the world and even the CD IELTS that is running in few towns/Cities are often subjected to rescheduling (telling from the experiences of my friends). British Council has not resumed its operations anywhere on this planet Earth
Only possibility to get the ECA assessed sooner is by sending WES/CES/IQAS a digital transcript (from the university end) which is not possible with every Indian University now (except Mumbai University and few private autonomous universities).
Okay, let me talk about shipping - Indian post/Speed post has resumed their operations a week ago and even if speed post service was hired, it may now talk few more weeks for border clearance and if the transcript somehow reaches the ECA, it would be kept in the reception until the staff come to office (like by October)
Remember, when there was everything as usual, nearly 10K people can write IELTS every day worldwide. Now not even 5% of them can write or will be able to write the exam because of these factors - Many are stranded, Few really are short of money, No public transport yet, Many states/Cities, Zones still under lockdown, Many not venturing to write IELTS (on a survey), IDP often rescheduling exams and more than all, everybody writing IELTS are not writing General but Academic as well equally.
So a BIG NO that there will 4K or 5k (or whatever Ks) will be joining the pool. Mate, India is 3rd in the list of countries affected worst by COVID and no state is really returning to normalcy here.
Situation in the US is damn deadly and IELTS is not planning to host exams at least the next two months. Many of my friends in the US (H1B) are extremely eager to write the exam but not even one center is open throughout the US. Even Universities are shut and are not allowing candidates to enter unless they are staff or it is extremely essential. May be few Universities might be able to send transcripts online to WES but not every University.
My theory - Score will plummet to 460s and possibly to the higher 450s until October and will undoubtedly surge post-October.
Hi!That's definitely not going to be an issue - I assume you are the primary applicant and her experience is outside Canada (i.e. it gives you no CRS points).
At the risk of over-generalizing, I believe the scrutiny is really on verifying things that affect eligibility and give you CRS points. If you are paranoid, you can have a short section in your Letter of Explanation explaining what changed from the profile to application.
I did the same thing myself and my processing was relatively painless and took 5 months (despite being a somewhat complicated case with well over a hundred overseas trips, residence and work in 3 countries, and including delay waiting for the IRCC letters to apply for and get Police Certificates after submitting the application).
Guys, Anyone have any idea on the above? TIAHi Guys,
I have a question on having read for two parallel degrees. In such a case, should we explain IRCC with an LOE or is it sufficient to only provide them the WES, degree transcripts and degree certificates for both these degrees?
Similarly in a situation where we work (after the completion of the primary or the 1st degree) while doing a 2nd degree, should I explain in an LOE or is it sufficient to only provide them the WES, degree transcript and degree certificate for the degree and for work, the reference letter, salary slip and other work related documents only?
Appreciate your help and inputs on this. TIA
1 you don’t have to explain to IRCC if you have two degrees. They clearly understand what your WES report indicates.Guys, Anyone have any idea on the above? TIA
I would like to correct you about British Council IELTS. They are running paper based and computer delivered IELTS in Canada since June 2020, and i think Canada is on planet Earth.Yeah, say 10000 every fortnight. Okay, can you tell me where Everything is opening up?
Have you visited Indian Universities now and do you really know that Indian Universities are welcoming people and handing them transcripts the way they used to give before.
Are you confident that every Tom, Dick, and Harry is able to write IELTS throughout the world?
Majority of the 470s, I would say are from the US (H1B Indians), and can you show me proof of IELTS happening in any state, county, or town in the US?
Do you think WES, CES, IQAS, ICES staff have all resumed their in-office operations? If yes is the answer, read this mate - https://learn.utoronto.ca/comparative-education-service-apply-now/ces-covid-19-updates
https://www.bcit.ca/ices/processing-time/
More than all, Pencil/Paper IELTS (which houses 70% of dudes compared to CD IELTS) has not resumed anywhere in the world and even the CD IELTS that is running in few towns/Cities are often subjected to rescheduling (telling from the experiences of my friends). British Council has not resumed its operations anywhere on this planet Earth
Only possibility to get the ECA assessed sooner is by sending WES/CES/IQAS a digital transcript (from the university end) which is not possible with every Indian University now (except Mumbai University and few private autonomous universities).
Okay, let me talk about shipping - Indian post/Speed post has resumed their operations a week ago and even if speed post service was hired, it may now take few more weeks for border clearance and if the transcript somehow reaches the ECA, it would be kept in the reception until the staff come to office (likely by October)
Remember, when there was everything as usual, nearly 10K people can write IELTS every day worldwide. Now not even 5% of them can write or will be able to write the exam because of these factors - Many are stranded, Few really are short of money, No public transport yet, Many states/Cities, Zones still under lockdown, Many not venturing to write IELTS (on a survey), IDP often rescheduling exams and more than all, everybody writing IELTS are not writing General but Academic as well equally, British Council has not yet resumed their operations (as said earlier)
So a BIG NO that there will 4K or 5k (or whatever Ks) will be joining the pool. Mate, India is 3rd in the list of countries affected worst by COVID and no state is really returning to normalcy here.
Situation in the US is damn deadly and IELTS is not planning to host exams at least the next two months. Many of my friends in the US (H1B) are extremely eager to write the exam but not even one center is open throughout the US. Even Universities there are shut and are not allowing candidates to enter unless they are staff or it is extremely essential. Maybe few Universities send transcripts online to WES but again, not every University would do this service at this alarming situation.
My theory - Score will plummet to 460s and possibly to the higher 450s until October and will undoubtedly surge post-October.
My Prediction :
July 22 - 470 to 472
Aug 5 - 466 to 470
Aug 19 - 460 to 465
Sep 2 - 457 to 461
My above prediction is assuming that IRCC Invites 3.9k dudes every fortnight
Once the existing backlog of 11000 dudes is cleared (460 and above), the cut-off will linger between the 455 to 465 range. Would not be of much impact by then even if 1000 dudes with 470 get into the pool. But yes, after October, 470 plus will undoubtedly be the new normal.
460s - get everything ready
450s - wait a bit and you too are not far