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For all those who have applied before 6th December 2011.
Will they give us the language points IF we do not send the test results to French and English. Please give your opinion?




Recours obligatoire aux tests de connaissances linguistiques en français et en anglais

À la suite des décisions du gouvernement qui entrent en vigueur le 1er août 2013, le ministère de l'Immigration et des Communautés culturelles a apporté certaines modifications aux règles et procédures d'immigration.

Pour obtenir plus d'information, consultez la page Règles et procédures d'immigration.

Depuis le 6 décembre 2011, tous les nouveaux candidats de la sous-catégorie des travailleurs qualifiés qui souhaitent obtenir des points à la grille de sélection pour leur connaissance du français (requérant principal : maximum de 16 points à l'oral et à l'écrit; conjoint : maximum de 6 points) et de l'anglais (requérant principal seulement : maximum de 6 points) doivent joindre à leur demande d'immigration des attestations de résultats reconnues par le Ministère. Les enfants qui accompagnent leurs parents sont exemptés de cette nouvelle exigence.

Les résultats aux tests de connaissances linguistiques reconnus par le Ministère sont donc l'unique outil d'évaluation des connaissances linguistiques des candidats à l'immigration pour les demandes de certificat de sélection. En plus d'optimiser les pratiques de sélection du Ministère, les tests standardisés assurent aux candidats une évaluation précise, homogène et équitable de leurs connaissances linguistiques en français et en anglais.

Les candidats qui ne veulent pas présenter d'attestation de résultats reconnue par le Ministère ou se prévaloir des points accordés pour les connaissances en français écrit doivent le spécifier dans leur demande de certificat de sélection en cochant les cases prévues à cette fin dans le formulaire.

Pour plus d'information à ce sujet ou pour obtenir la liste des centres agréés de passation des tests de connaissances linguistiques reconnus par le Ministère, consultez la section
Travailleurs permanents - Connaisssances linguistiques en français et en anglais.

 

[signalmaker]

Guys,

do you have any idea bout the waiting time before Health insurance is valid ? i just saw that in Quebec there is waiting time of 90 days before any insurance is applied !

thats crasy and dangerous if you are not alone, with a wife and children, you maybe pay tens of thousands if you needed any health care..

it was written in a guide book for Quebec that a private health insurance should be made for these 90 days ..

i even made some search for Ontario, and found that it is even worse, 153 days !

and i made search to know if it is only for PR's and found that even Canadaian citizens are also under this rule, and whenever you move from any province to another one that things starts again with you !!

should i make this insurance in my country before i land in Quebec ??!!

am i mistaken in my search ? please tell me ..

 

[lemans207]

You should had asked experts who took CSQ
The interviewer will ask you this question after you get your CSQ

you must make international insurance for 3 months b4 you land until you get the health card

will new rules b applied on you? since your on waiting listm did they ask you to update for b2?

Guys,

do you have any idea bout the waiting time before Health insurance is valid ? i just saw that in Quebec there is waiting time of 90 days before any insurance is applied !

thats crasy and dangerous if you are not alone, with a wife and children, you maybe pay tens of thousands if you needed any health care..

it was written in a guide book for Quebec that a private health insurance should be made for these 90 days ..

 

[Ketevan]

I applied before December 2011 and I did not sit a single test. Everything boils down to the interviewer. My interviewer was a reasonable person. She observed that I am fluent in both languages and gave me max points for them, but other interviewers asked applicants to sit tests to have official proof even before December 2011.

For all those who have applied before 6th December 2011.
Will they give us the language points IF we do not send the test results to French and English. Please give your opinion?




Recours obligatoire aux tests de connaissances linguistiques en français et en anglais

À la suite des décisions du gouvernement qui entrent en vigueur le 1er août 2013, le ministère de l'Immigration et des Communautés culturelles a apporté certaines modifications aux règles et procédures d'immigration.

Pour obtenir plus d'information, consultez la page Règles et procédures d'immigration.

Depuis le 6 décembre 2011, tous les nouveaux candidats de la sous-catégorie des travailleurs qualifiés qui souhaitent obtenir des points à la grille de sélection pour leur connaissance du français (requérant principal : maximum de 16 points à l'oral et à l'écrit; conjoint : maximum de 6 points) et de l'anglais (requérant principal seulement : maximum de 6 points) doivent joindre à leur demande d'immigration des attestations de résultats reconnues par le Ministère. Les enfants qui accompagnent leurs parents sont exemptés de cette nouvelle exigence.

Les résultats aux tests de connaissances linguistiques reconnus par le Ministère sont donc l'unique outil d'évaluation des connaissances linguistiques des candidats à l'immigration pour les demandes de certificat de sélection. En plus d'optimiser les pratiques de sélection du Ministère, les tests standardisés assurent aux candidats une évaluation précise, homogène et équitable de leurs connaissances linguistiques en français et en anglais.

Les candidats qui ne veulent pas présenter d'attestation de résultats reconnue par le Ministère ou se prévaloir des points accordés pour les connaissances en français écrit doivent le spécifier dans leur demande de certificat de sélection en cochant les cases prévues à cette fin dans le formulaire.

Pour plus d'information à ce sujet ou pour obtenir la liste des centres agréés de passation des tests de connaissances linguistiques reconnus par le Ministère, consultez la section
Travailleurs permanents - Connaisssances linguistiques en français et en anglais.

 

[Ketevan]

Yes the waiting time is up to three months. Moreover, until you give them proof of residence like utility bill or rent contract, they will not give you medical card. I waited almost three months to get my card. I did not take any insurance because it wad deadly expensive. Luckily nothing hapenned.

Guys,

do you have any idea bout the waiting time before Health insurance is valid ? i just saw that in Quebec there is waiting time of 90 days before any insurance is applied !

thats crasy and dangerous if you are not alone, with a wife and children, you maybe pay tens of thousands if you needed any health care..

it was written in a guide book for Quebec that a private health insurance should be made for these 90 days ..

i even made some search for Ontario, and found that it is even worse, 153 days !

and i made search to know if it is only for PR's and found that even Canadaian citizens are also under this rule, and whenever you move from any province to another one that things starts again with you !!

should i make this insurance in my country before i land in Quebec ??!!

am i mistaken in my search ? please tell me ..

 

[Milad_86]

Yea,,, thats right! Thats why i am confused!
This reference in francization applies to existing applicants or also to the new applicants??
Also another question is , what is the MIN. Level for that? B1? Or with lower cpmpetence , is it still possible to benefit from it or not?

Can somebody with experience, makes us sure if that applies to new applicants also or not??

I'm on the same situation, I plan to apply for QSW in the following months I have 44 points with no French, though I have a B1 TCFQ diploma on both competences I'm aware that I can apply with a B1 and even though I will get no points I will be granted an extra 12 months to achieve a B2. Is this true? Can I apply with 44 pts and a B1? Can somebody confirm this?

Thank you,

Guys could somebody help? Any documents, references? Anything that we can get sure that it applie too new applicants also....

 

[grande_folie]

Guys,

do you have any idea bout the waiting time before Health insurance is valid ? i just saw that in Quebec there is waiting time of 90 days before any insurance is applied !

thats crasy and dangerous if you are not alone, with a wife and children, you maybe pay tens of thousands if you needed any health care..

it was written in a guide book for Quebec that a private health insurance should be made for these 90 days ..

i even made some search for Ontario, and found that it is even worse, 153 days !

and i made search to know if it is only for PR's and found that even Canadaian citizens are also under this rule, and whenever you move from any province to another one that things starts again with you !!

should i make this insurance in my country before i land in Quebec ??!!

am i mistaken in my search ? please tell me ..

If you are from one of the following listed countries then you don't need to wait for 3 months for the carte soleil because the Québec government has entered into reciprocal social security agreements, which include a health component, with the following countries:

Belgium;
Denmark;
Finland;
France;
Greece;
Luxembourg;
Norway;
Portugal; and
Sweden.

If you live outside Québec for 183 days or more per year and if you fail to provide any grave reason for residing outside of Québec, then your health card will be cancelled.

 

[khan1984]

Can u please post a link for the new mission.. Thank you very much

http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/permanent-workers/official-immigration-application/immigration-application/processing-times-table.html

http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/permanent-workers/official-immigration-application/immigration-application/schedule-missions.html

http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/publications/en/divers/Programmation-missions-travailleurs-lieu-en.pdf

 

[gates1580]

Guys could somebody help? Any documents, references? Anything that we can get sure that it applie too new applicants also....

Milad
Unfortunately, no one here knows the correct answer. If you have specific questions like this, I would recommend you to pool all of your questions and then schedule a one hour session with a good canadian immigration lawyer who knows the process well. Only he can help answer some of your questions.

Again, keep in mind that the decision on any application is at the sole discretion of the immigration officer processing your case.
So, first try to prepare a solid application before looking into rules that might help you.

 

[Milad_86]

Milad
Unfortunately, no one here knows the correct answer. If you have specific questions like this, I would recommend you to pool all of your questions and then schedule a one hour session with a good canadian immigration lawyer who knows the process well. Only he can help answer some of your questions.

Again, keep in mind that the decision on any application is at the sole discretion of the immigration officer processing your case.
So, first try to prepare a solid application before looking into rules that might help you.

Hi,
Think u r right.....its not well clear ,,, thank u.
Anyway if somebody figures something out, please share it here...thanks

 

[Master7]

Hi,
Think u r right.....its not well clear ,,, thank u.
Anyway if somebody figures something out, please share it here...thanks

Hello Milad_86,

I found a valuable piece of information that a forum member posted here not so long ago,

http://www2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/dynamicSearch/telecharge.php?type=7&gpiType=N&file=NPI2013-016.pdf&eoq=36870

Open this link and go to page 3, I have gathered and translated the most important information there:

Pour les candidats qui ont présenté une demande d’immigration à partir du 1er août 2013,
les règles de la référence en francisation applicables
comme mesure administrative d’exception, sont les suivante

For the candidates who submitted a request of immigration from August 1st, 2013, the applicable rules(rulers) of the reference in "francisation" as administrative measure of exception, are a following ones:

• Le candidat sans conjoint doit pouvoir obtenir une note minimale de 39 points à l’ensemble des
facteurs de la grille, excluant le facteur Adaptabilité.


· The candidate without spouse must be able to obtain a minimal note(mark) of 39 points to all the factors of the bar, excluding the factor Adaptability.

Au moment de l’examen préliminaire, la référence en francisation n’est possible que si le
requérant principal possède déjà un niveau intermédiaire faible, de niveau de compétences 5 ou
6 de l’Échelle québécoise (soit B1).

At the time of the preliminary examination, the reference in "francisation" is possible only if the main applicant already possesses a low(weak) intermediate level, of skill level 5 or 6 of the Scale From Quebec (that is B1).

• Un délai maximal de 12 mois est octroyé au requérant principal pour hausser ses compétences en français au niveau requis et ainsi satisfaire aux
exigences de la grille de sélection.

· A maximal deadline(extension) of 12 months is granted to the main applicant to raise his(her,its) skills in French at the required level and so satisfy the requirements of the railing(bar) of selection.

To summarize this is what I have been able to understand. For all applicants who will apply after August 1st 2013, will be given the opportunity to apply under "francisation" if they are able to meet the following requirements:

1) Applicants must have a least 39 pts before French.
2) In order to apply applicants must have at least a B1 level
3) If all of the above are met, applicants will be given a grace period of 12 months to present a B2 French proficiency diploma.

If anyone has an opinion on this topic or would like to add something please do so, once again the above information only applies to those who will be applying AFTER AUGUST 01, 2013

 

[babeerino]

Hello Milad_86,

I found a valuable piece of information that a forum member posted here not so long ago,

http://www2.publicationsduquebec.gouv.qc.ca/dynamicSearch/telecharge.php?type=7&gpiType=N&file=NPI2013-016.pdf&eoq=36870

Open this link and go to page 3, I have gathered and translated the most important information there:

Pour les candidats qui ont présenté une demande d'immigration à partir du 1er août 2013,
les règles de la référence en francisation applicables
comme mesure administrative d'exception, sont les suivante

For the candidates who submitted a request of immigration from August 1st, 2013, the applicable rules(rulers) of the reference in "francisation" as administrative measure of exception, are a following ones:

• Le candidat sans conjoint doit pouvoir obtenir une note minimale de 39 points à l'ensemble des
facteurs de la grille, excluant le facteur Adaptabilité.


· The candidate without spouse must be able to obtain a minimal note(mark) of 39 points to all the factors of the bar, excluding the factor Adaptability.

Au moment de l'examen préliminaire, la référence en francisation n'est possible que si le
requérant principal possède déjà un niveau intermédiaire faible, de niveau de compétences 5 ou
6 de l'Échelle québécoise (soit B1).

At the time of the preliminary examination, the reference in "francisation" is possible only if the main applicant already possesses a low(weak) intermediate level, of skill level 5 or 6 of the Scale From Quebec (that is B1).

• Un délai maximal de 12 mois est octroyé au requérant principal pour hausser ses compétences en français au niveau requis et ainsi satisfaire aux
exigences de la grille de sélection.

· A maximal deadline(extension) of 12 months is granted to the main applicant to raise his(her,its) skills in French at the required level and so satisfy the requirements of the railing(bar) of selection.

To summarize this is what I have been able to understand. For all applicants who will apply after August 1st 2013, will be given the opportunity to apply under "francisation" if they are able to meet the following requirements:

1) Applicants must have a least 39 pts before French.
2) In order to apply applicants must have at least a B1 level
3) If all of the above are met, applicants will be given a grace period of 12 months to present a B2 French proficiency diploma.

If anyone has an opinion on this topic or would like to add something please do so, once again the above information only applies to those who will be applying AFTER AUGUST 01, 2013

Hi! May I know what the "francisation" means exactly? I dont quite understand it. And I applied after August 1. Thank you!!

 

[kristine26]

Hi everyone, to those who have already send their application for quebec just want to ask a few questions regarding question

#10 Have you ever applied for Permanent Residence in Canada (Other than Quebec)?

In my case, my husband applied for fsw 2013 but his application was returned due to CAP REACHED. We are still waiting for the aplication since it was only sent back on sept. 24, 2013. IS IT CONSIDER DENIED OR CAN I CHECK NO.

I hope anyone can reply on my question.

Thanks

 

[Jasvir Kumar sidhu]

if a person have 64 point without French.can he applied without French and English point mean without ielts and self.

 

[Master7]

Hi everyone, to those who have already send their application for quebec just want to ask a few questions regarding question

#10 Have you ever applied for Permanent Residence in Canada (Other than Quebec)?

In my case, my husband applied for fsw 2013 but his application was returned due to CAP REACHED. We are still waiting for the aplication since it was only sent back on sept. 24, 2013. IS IT CONSIDER DENIED OR CAN I CHECK NO.

I hope anyone can reply on my question.

Thanks

I would choose "No" because a file was never open therefore it could have not been denied. It just reached the office but since the cap was reached they probably just returned it without ever opening the envelop, so it is as if you never sent anything in the first place.