Proof of one of the "38 Occupation"?

[josinyc]

What kind of proof will the CIC ask so that I can prove I have been working in one of the "38 occupation"? I have a different occupation but I can get a proof from my employer that I have been working on one of the priority occupation for four years.

Thanks.

 

[Leon]

The only proof that CIC can ask for is a letter from the employer.

 

[josinyc]

Leon, I have a bachelor in Business Administration. However, I would like to put down I have worked a Accountant. I can have a proof of that. However, will they ask for an accounting certification or they will only ask if the accounting occupation I am putting down is a high position in accounting field such as Accounting Director, etc?

Thank you.

 

[PMM]

Hi

Leon, I have a bachelor in Business Administration. However, I would like to put down I have worked a Accountant. I can have a proof of that. However, will they ask for an accounting certification or they will only ask if the accounting occupation I am putting down is a high position in accounting field such as Accounting Director, etc?

Thank you.

Suggest that you read the NOC code as to the requirements to claim to be an accountant.

Employment requirements

* Chartered accountants require a university degree and Completion of a professional training program approved by a provincial institute of chartered accountants and, depending on the province, either two years or 30 months of on-the-job training and Membership in a provincial Institute of Chartered Accountants upon successful completion of the Uniform Evaluation (UFE).

* Certified general accountants and certified management accountants require a university degree and Completion of a training program approved by the Society of Certified General Accountants or Society of Management Accountants and several years of on-the-job training and Certification by the Certified General Accountants Association or the Society of Management Accountants.

* Auditors require education, training and recognition as indicated for chartered accountants, certified general accountants or certified management accountants and Some experience as an accountant.

* Auditors may require recognition by the Institute of Internal Auditors.

* To act as a trustee in bankruptcy proceedings, auditors and accountants must hold a licence as a trustee in bankruptcy.

* Licensing by the provincial or territorial governing body is usually required for accountants and auditors practising public accounting.

Without a formal accounting training, it won't fly.

PMM

 

[New Horison]

Hi.

I applied my simplified application process in early 2007, and then I updated with AEO last month. Will my application be processing fast in 6-12 months like the applications after February of 2008? Please help to be clearified about this issue. Thanks in advance!

 

[PMM]

Hi

Hi.

I applied my simplified application process in early 2007, and then I updated with AEO last month. Will my application be processing fast in 6-12 months like the applications after February of 2008? Please help to be clearified about this issue. Thanks in advance!

Probably not, it will be faster with the AEO, but that is about it, I assume that you sent a full application package, with the AEO rather that just the AEO?.

PMM

 

[New Horison]

Thanks PMM,

I did send my AEO with my supporting documentation 5 weeks ago and now I am still waiting their answer.

 

[NewYorker]

Does this means that even if you have 5 to 7 years of experience working in the US as an Internal Auditor or Accountant, you will still not qualify under the new rule because you'll need courses/certification like CGA (Certified general accountants)etc? Does this means with the new list of 38, you need extra certifications as well or just experience and degrees will/can qualify you under that NOC?

Thanks,

 

[mjsantos]

In my opinion, I do not think it is the case. Look bellow:

* Chartered accountants require a university degree and Completion of a professional training program approved by a provincial institute of chartered accountants and, depending on the province, either two years or 30 months of on-the-job training and Membership in a provincial Institute of Chartered Accountants upon successful completion of the Uniform Evaluation (UFE).

* Certified general accountants and certified management accountants require a university degree and Completion of a training program approved by the Society of Certified General Accountants or Society of Management Accountants and several years of on-the-job training and Certification by the Certified General Accountants Association or the Society of Management Accountants.

* Auditors require education, training and recognition as indicated for chartered accountants, certified general accountants or certified management accountants and Some experience as an accountant.

* Auditors may require recognition by the Institute of Internal Auditors.

* To act as a trustee in bankruptcy proceedings, auditors and accountants must hold a licence as a trustee in bankruptcy.

* Licensing by the provincial or territorial governing body is usually required for accountants and auditors practising public accounting.

You see, I think you only need certification if you are claiming you are a Chartered Accountant, Certified General Account or Auditors. However, if you are claiming your experience as General Accountant, Intermediate Accountant or Departmental Accountant, I do not think you need a special certification. You just need a college degree. A lot of people today who have a degree in Economics, Finance, etc, go to work in the Accounting field and they do not carry a certification. This is just my two sense.

Good luck!!!

 

[eduardoF]

what it means is that you should be legally qualified to practice. so if your country requires a professional certificate/registration/society membership/ in addition to the university degree, then you sould have that as well.

For example, in canada, to be legally allowed to work as an accountant, in addition to an accounting degree "recognized by the society of accountants", you need to pass a test and become a member of that society. if the situation in your country is similar, then if you only have the degree and your employer has let you work as an accountant, that would not be enough.

i am, of course, speculating.

 

[mjsantos]

What about in the US?

Thanks!

 

[NewYorker]

Let me rephrase my question;

If someone work in the US as an Auditor for a company, have more than 7 Years of experience in the job, Degree in accounting but no certification, would this be enough to qualify for NOC 1111? Or this needs the certification no matter what..

If that is the case then a plumber need a certification too because they must have something equivalent in Canada and therefore no one will qualify without having some sort of certification to qualify with the new rules. (This is my thought)

I am pre-Feb 27th applicant, however I am starting this for the sake of the knowledge for me and for others, and how this will work if someone is in the above situation.

 

[eduardoF]

If someone work in the US as an Auditor for a company, have more than 7 Years of experience in the job, Degree in accounting but no certification, would this be enough to qualify for NOC 1111? Or this needs the certification no matter what..

Hi,

If you are allowed to work in the US as an auditor without a certification, or without being a member of the US Association of Accountants (or whatever it's called there), then you're surely ok. If a certification or association membership is required to work as an accountant in the US and you don't have that, you can still claim it (well, you can claim anything you want...), but if CIC asks for proof of qualification, then you'll be in trouble.

The NOC categories apply for people who work in Canada.

Mind you, once you get in Canada, if you want to work as an accountant, then you'll need to comply with what the NOC describes.

 

[Suin]

within how many years this job might have been happened? i mean if one worked on the selected occupation & resigned a year ago, but now working on a diffirent occipation that it not in the list will it work?

 

[NewYorker]

If someone work in the US as an Auditor for a company, have more than 7 Years of experience in the job, Degree in accounting but no certification, would this be enough to qualify for NOC 1111? Or this needs the certification no matter what..

Hi,

If you are allowed to work in the US as an auditor without a certification, or without being a member of the US Association of Accountants (or whatever it's called there), then you're surely ok. If a certification or association membership is required to work as an accountant in the US and you don't have that, you can still claim it (well, you can claim anything you want...), but if CIC asks for proof of qualification, then you'll be in trouble.

The NOC categories apply for people who work in Canada.

Mind you, once you get in Canada, if you want to work as an accountant, then you'll need to comply with what the NOC describes.

Sure you need a certification to work as an Auditor in Canada if it is required there, but at least you can get in through this new new Occupational List - that was my question. Later you can work as a Janitor if you want to but at least you qualify with new rules and may get your PR and not get refused with refund.