PR refused - Marriage Certificate

[guidebortoli]

Today we got a refusal on our PR application.
The reason was that we didn't give the Marriage Certificate.

Me and my wife got married in Vegas. We are not US citizens. I have requested the Official copy of the marriage certificate and the apostille. Those are the documents that we uploaded in the marriage certificate field.

I'm not really sure why it was refused since the marriage is legal in the US and I didn't find anything saying that it's not legal in Canada...

Any insights on this matter would be appreciated. Thank you.

 

[scylla]

Today we got a refusal on our PR application.
The reason was that we didn't give the Marriage Certificate.

Me and my wife got married in Vegas. We are not US citizens. I have requested the Official copy of the marriage certificate and the apostille. Those are the documents that we uploaded in the marriage certificate field.

I'm not really sure why it was refused since the marriage is legal in the US and I didn't find anything saying that it's not legal in Canada...

Any insights on this matter would be appreciated. Thank you.

Can you post the full refusal letter here removing personal details (e.g. names)?

When did you get married? Was it recent? What evidence did you submit to demonstrate your marriage is genuine?

 

[guidebortoli]

Can you post the full refusal letter here removing personal details (e.g. names)?

When did you get married? Was it recent? What evidence did you submit to demonstrate your marriage is genuine?

We married on January 4th, 2020. We sent the marriage certificate and the apostille as documents.

pdf_refusal_letter

 

[scylla]

We married on January 4th, 2020. We sent the marriage certificate and the apostille as documents.

pdf_refusal_letter

I would send a case specific inquiry to the visa office to request reconsideration.

 

[canuck78]

We married on January 4th, 2020. We sent the marriage certificate and the apostille as documents.

pdf_refusal_letter

When did you apply as married and when did you get married?

 

[guidebortoli]

When did you apply as married and when did you get married?

I've married on January 4th, 2020....updated my profile with my wife as married after we got married. Received the ITA with the profile already updated to married (ITA of March 26th, if I'm not wrong). Documents sent on 10th of May 2020, and AOR the same day.

 

[guidebortoli]

I've asked for GCMS notes under Privacy Act...
Maybe I'll get more information on why they didn't accept my marriage certificate and apostille.

 

[pathan19]

I am also in the same boat.
My first application got rejected because I just submitted my marriage affidavit.
Is there anyone from India who have got the PR through Urdu Nikah nama and along with the english translation done from the licensed translator from Canada?.

 

[guidebortoli]

Just an update: I've got the GCMS notes today, and honestly there is no reasonable reason for the refusal...
As you can see in the link below I've extracted the part where It says about the Other Reason Description: USA Marriage cert.
So basically they did not accept my marriage certificate from the US, which goes against the rules for the Marriage Certificate in the EE where it stated that the marriage should be valid where it was taken, and must be valid in Canada (US marriages are valid in Canada).

Unless there is a hidden rule where it says that "If you married in another country that it is not your citizenship country, you should validate you marriage in your country before applying", which again I don't think it is the case...

GCMS Notes

 

[k.h.p.]

Just an update: I've got the GCMS notes today, and honestly there is no reasonable reason for the refusal...
As you can see in the link below I've extracted the part where It says about the Other Reason Description: USA Marriage cert.
So basically they did not accept my marriage certificate from the US, which goes against the rules for the Marriage Certificate in the EE where it stated that the marriage should be valid where it was taken, and must be valid in Canada (US marriages are valid in Canada).

Unless there is a hidden rule where it says that "If you married in another country that it is not your citizenship country, you should validate you marriage in your country before applying", which again I don't think it is the case...

GCMS Notes

They're not rejecting the certificate in and of itself, they're saying you didn't include it. Are you confident it was uploaded in the application? The actual marriage certificate?

 

[guidebortoli]

They're not rejecting the certificate in and of itself, they're saying you didn't include it. Are you confident it was uploaded in the application? The actual marriage certificate?

Absolutely. Also, the fact that in the Other Reason Description he says "USA Marriage cert." means that the file was there (because he could not know it was a USA certificate without opening the file).


As you can see here the file was uploaded and received.

 

[k.h.p.]

Absolutely. Also, the fact that in the Other Reason Description he says "USA Marriage cert." means that the file was there (because he could not know it was a USA certificate without opening the file).


As you can see here the file was uploaded and received.

No, the other reason description means that it was not provided - that's what it says. It doesn't say "not acceptable" or "not registered in home country," and it definitely doesn't say "not legally recognized."

 

[k.h.p.]

That file list from EAIMEL just identifies the drop-down selection or file field you made. "Marriage Certificate / License" is the name of the field you uploaded a file to, it is not a summary description entered by a human

 

[guidebortoli]

No, the other reason description means that it was not provided - that's what it says. It doesn't say "not acceptable" or "not registered in home country," and it definitely doesn't say "not legally recognized."

What I am saying is that: How the official knows it was a marriage certificate from US if the file wasn't sent? Of course the file and the certificate were sent!
You are asking me if I have sent the file with the marriage certificate. Of course I sent, otherwise how the official would know that the certificate was from the US? And in case you are wondering what I've sent, it was the official marriage certificate, with official stamp and seal, signatures, in an anti-fraud paper, clearly saying Marriage Certificate. It's was not an affidavit, was a marriage certificate.

 

[guidebortoli]

That file list from EAIMEL just identifies the drop-down selection or file field you made. "Marriage Certificate / License" is the name of the field you uploaded a file to, it is not a summary description entered by a human

There's nothing else in the ATIP stating anything about the refusal.
Not even at the very bottom of the file where the NOTES are written. Except for the images already shared..