PR Card Renewal Gone Wrong - Please help Me (Leon)

[rb10]

You have to use the date on which CIC received your complete application. If you submitted an incomplete application on June 9th, the entire application was then returned to you, and then you resubmitted the entire application to CIC recently - June 9th is no longer the date on which your application was received.

So if you resubmitted your entire application - you are no longer a June 9th applicant and your application will not be processed with the other June 9th applicants. Your application date is the new date when your resubmitted application reached CIC.

It arrived today, October 7th. So I am now an October 7th Applicant. Jeezish christ. How long until the CIC even reach October do you think?

 

[scylla]

It arrived today, October 7th. So I am now an October 7th Applicant. Jeezish christ. How long until the CIC even reach October do you think?

Then yes - you are an October 7th applicant. This really shouldn't come as any surprise.

It's impossible for any of us to say what the processing times will be for your application, or when they will reach October applications, since processing times go up and down. However you can probably assume the overall processing time for your card renewal is going to be somewhere around 150 days.

 

[rb10]

Then yes - you are an October 7th applicant. This really shouldn't come as any surprise.

It's impossible for any of us to say what the processing times will be for your application, or when they will reach October applications, since processing times go up and down. However you can probably assume the overall processing time for your card renewal is going to be somewhere around 150 days.

So you think, 150 days from now (5 months).

Also serious question.

Do you think Canada Border Control will let me in with just my receipt of payment for PR card Renewal...

 

[rb10]

If immigration needs some clarification on your application, they will call you in for an interview to pick up your card. If you were sleeping at the dorms, maybe you should have put the dorms as your address but it's still a grey zone that you can easily explain if you were spending more time at home than at the dorms. You have not done anything wrong and there is no reason why they would deny your PR card renewal unless they thought you were lying about your days spent in Canada.

Ideally you get your PR card in the mail, your friend would fed ex it to you and you would be able to return with it but if that doesn't happen, you can fly to Canada on your UK passport any time. Don't mention to the airline that you are a PR but when you arrive in Canada, you should say that you are and show whatever you have. Do you have your landing papers with you? That would definitely help. Otherwise the police report about the lost PR card as well as the letter that you applied should help convince immigration that you are really a PR.

If immigration wants to know if you are outside Canada, they can. They have access to flight manifests when they want to. If you are ready to return to Canada now, you should. At least make sure that you continue to meet the RO. The RO is not something you should only meet before you want to renew your PR card. You need to meet it all the time.

Right now, your days spent in Canada 5 years ago are moving outside the window of the past 5 years. They will have to be replaced with new days spent in Canada. Now, if you weren't in Canada 5 years ago, you would be ok because you would be replacing outside days with outside days so it's a non issue but if you are replacing Canadian days with outside days right now, you are getting closer to not meeting the RO again, day by day.

Immigration can examine your status any time you enter Canada so even if you met the RO when you applied for the card and even if your friend mails you the new card, you could still be examined for meeting the RO the next time you enter and if immigration thinks you don't meet it, they can report you so be aware of that and continue to calculate your days on a day by day basis to make sure you return in time and that you continue to meet the RO in the future.

Leon, what exactly do I need to bring to re-enter Canada? Will they let me in? Can you tell me exactly what papers I need to bring, and what I need to say... I do not have police report number either.

 

[Leon]

You travel on your UK passport and don't mention to the airline that you are a PR. When you go through immigration, tell them that you are a PR and show whatever you have. They can look you up in the system. They may give you problems but they will let you enter.

 

[rb10]

You travel on your UK passport and don't mention to the airline that you are a PR. When you go through immigration, tell them that you are a PR and show whatever you have. They can look you up in the system. They may give you problems but they will let you enter.

So when I leave the Europe Airport (Belgium), I just go on my passport. When I get to Canada, I just tell them I am a PR whose card expired and got stolen, and I am in the middle of renewal. Doesn't that sound so fishy. Are you sure they will let me enter?


All I need is one way flight?

 

[Leon]

So when I leave the Europe Airport (Belgium), I just go on my passport. When I get to Canada, I just tell them I am a PR whose card expired and got stolen, and I am in the middle of renewal. Doesn't that sound so fishy. Are you sure they will let me enter?


All I need is one way flight?

Yes, I am sure they will let you enter. You will have the police report and they can find you in their computers.

 

[rb10]

Yes, I am sure they will let you enter. You will have the police report and they can find you in their computers.

Leon, as said before, I will not have the police report. They did not issue me the police report. They said they were not allowed to issue me it, and I had to get a special approval to get it or something. Anyways, I do not have the police report. Just the police report file I.D number.

All I have is my renewal PR receipt.

 

[Leon]

Leon, as said before, I will not have the police report. They did not issue me the police report. They said they were not allowed to issue me it, and I had to get a special approval to get it or something. Anyways, I do not have the police report. Just the police report file I.D number.

All I have is my renewal PR receipt.

As long as you have something in your hands, you will be fine.

 

[rb10]

As long as you have something in your hands, you will be fine.

So you think that receipt for a PR renewal will be okay. How sure of you are this? What about my PR being expired, wont they be like well... did he even meet the days and all that to even get the renewal. I think it is a risk dont you?

Would they have to let me in

 

[Msafiri]

So you think that receipt for a PR renewal will be okay. How sure of you are this? What about my PR being expired, wont they be like well... did he even meet the days and all that to even get the renewal. I think it is a risk dont you?

Would they have to let me in

You are confusing several things.

1. The PR Card renewal - CIC will process the application on the basis of the declared details and examination of the RO. If they deem your re-submitted application is still incorrect be it the photos or any other issue they will return it. If they want more information they will request it - this may be a simple letter, a full residence questionnaire or an interview. Worrying about this is pointless as its out of your control.

2. Admission into Canada - PRs have the right of entry into Canada. PRs must meet the RO at each examination - seeking admission is being 'examined'. The CBSA border agent may or may not examine your RO. They may or may not bother with any breach. They may or may not report you. Regardless they must admit you if its provable you are a PR. Your receipt may or may not suffice - they may ask other questions to verify its you. Again why worry about this its pointless deal with at the POE.

3. Your UK passport will let you board the flight - its visitor visa exempt. The airline will assume you are a tourist. Once in Canada the Primary Line Officer will ask about your status in Canada...heck they may even process you as a visitor...just answer their questions truthfully. They can smell any bovine waste product you tell them. You will probably get a 'welcome home' so relax.....watch your RO though...PR status is not a glorified visitors visa...its for you to reside in Canada.

 

[rb10]

You are confusing several things.

1. The PR Card renewal - CIC will process the application on the basis of the declared details and examination of the RO. If they deem your re-submitted application is still incorrect be it the photos or any other issue they will return it. If they want more information they will request it - this may be a simple letter, a full residence questionnaire or an interview. Worrying about this is pointless as its out of your control.

2. Admission into Canada - PRs have the right of entry into Canada. PRs must meet the RO at each examination - seeking admission is being 'examined'. The CBSA border agent may or may not examine your RO. They may or may not bother with any breach. They may or may not report you. Regardless they must admit you if its provable you are a PR. Your receipt may or may not suffice - they may ask other questions to verify its you. Again why worry about this its pointless deal with at the POE.

3. Your UK passport will let you board the flight - its visitor visa exempt. The airline will assume you are a tourist. Once in Canada the Primary Line Officer will ask about your status in Canada...heck they may even process you as a visitor...just answer their questions truthfully. They can smell any bovine waste product you tell them. You will probably get a 'welcome home' so relax.....watch your RO though...PR status is not a glorified visitors visa...its for you to reside in Canada.

Thank you very much. So you do not think I need a travel document? Also - I would like to go as well prepared as possible, so my receipt may or may not suffice, exactly, but I would like to go with as much evidence as possible. You think I will be okay just bringing the receipt then?

 

[Msafiri]

Thank you very much. So you do not think I need a travel document? Also - I would like to go as well prepared as possible, so my receipt may or may not suffice, exactly, but I would like to go with as much evidence as possible. You think I will be okay just bringing the receipt then?

1. I know you don't need a travel document.
2. I know your receipt is good enough for the CBSA border agent as a starting point to get your file.

If your experience is any different when you land at the border come back to the forum and I'll hold my hand up, apologize and throw in a couple of London eye tickets for use when you are next in the UK.

 

[rb10]

1. I know you don't need a travel document.
2. I know your receipt is good enough for the CBSA border agent as a starting point to get your file.

If your experience is any different when you land at the border come back to the forum and I'll hold my hand up, apologize and throw in a couple of London eye tickets for use when you are next in the UK.

Haha, so why would that link to get my file be enough? Will that file state if I have met the requirements or not? The thing I am worried about, Msafiri, is that this application for a new permanent residency has not yet been processed, as I just re sumbmitted it. Say that the application renewal for a PR card doesn't appear on their file.

 

[Msafiri]

CBSA agent will have other ways to verify your PR status starting with the biodata on your UK passport.....you ever been pulled over by the cops and have no ID.....they soon find out who you are eh! You won't be the first or last PR to show up at the border without a PR Card so nothing special...instead of sweating the small stuff you ought to focus on the RO which is really the major issue.