PR Card renewal- 25 days short for RO 730 days case

[Dreamer889]

Hello All,

My wife’s PR card expires in April 2026. She has been a permanent resident since 2016 and has renewed her card once before. However, due to family matters, she had to travel frequently. We are now preparing to renew her PR card, but she is short of the residency obligation by about 25 days.
During her time outside Canada, she accompanied me for 98 days, and we have all the necessary evidence. However, the trip was visiting my family in my country of origin for paternity leave.
Since this situation seems to be a grey area, I would like to know whether ICBSA officer would count those days as accompanying a Canadian spouse, or if they would not be considered knowing that we also have needed evidence for previous 5 years that shows strong ties to Canada.

I would really appreciate your advise! Thank you in advance!

 

[steaky]

Hello All,

My wife’s PR card expires in April 2026. She has been a permanent resident since 2016 and has renewed her card once before. However, due to family matters, she had to travel frequently. We are now preparing to renew her PR card, but she is short of the residency obligation by about 25 days.
During her time outside Canada, she accompanied me for 98 days, and we have all the necessary evidence. However, the trip was visiting my family in my country of origin for paternity leave.
Since this situation seems to be a grey area, I would like to know whether ICBSA officer would count those days as accompanying a Canadian spouse, or if they would not be considered knowing that we also have needed evidence for previous 5 years that shows strong ties to Canada.

I would really appreciate your advise! Thank you in advance!

It's IRCC doing the counting. You should be good as long as you have the evidence.

 

[canuck78]

Hello All,

My wife’s PR card expires in April 2026. She has been a permanent resident since 2016 and has renewed her card once before. However, due to family matters, she had to travel frequently. We are now preparing to renew her PR card, but she is short of the residency obligation by about 25 days.
During her time outside Canada, she accompanied me for 98 days, and we have all the necessary evidence. However, the trip was visiting my family in my country of origin for paternity leave.
Since this situation seems to be a grey area, I would like to know whether ICBSA officer would count those days as accompanying a Canadian spouse, or if they would not be considered knowing that we also have needed evidence for previous 5 years that shows strong ties to Canada.

I would really appreciate your advise! Thank you in advance!

You are likely better off waiting the extra 25 days (with a bit of buffer) if she would then meet her RO. That may actually lead to faster processing.

 

[armoured]

You are likely better off waiting the extra 25 days (with a bit of buffer) if she would then meet her RO. That may actually lead to faster processing.

^^ Strongly agree with this. Far more likely to work this way.

@Dreamer889 : be sure to check carefully your arithmetic, as dates from early part of the period may start to 'drop off.'

Simplest form: from date of application, count all days outside Canada from the date five years before (also ignoring any days before becoming a PR, i.e. if became a PR in the last five years*); if more than 1095 days outside, then not in compliance.

*Does not apply to her situation, but in case others read this.

 

[Dreamer889]

^^ Strongly agree with this. Far more likely to work this way.

@Dreamer889 : be sure to check carefully your arithmetic, as dates from early part of the period may start to 'drop off.'

Simplest form: from date of application, count all days outside Canada from the date five years before (also ignoring any days before becoming a PR, i.e. if became a PR in the last five years*); if more than 1095 days outside, then not in compliance.

*Does not apply to her situation, but in case others read this.

Can't agree more, but as you mentioned, the dates from the earlier part of the period will soon start dropping off. The concern is that, without any (H&C) considerations, she may be required to leave soon.
I’m not sure what the outcome would be if, in the worst-case scenario, IRCC does not count the 98 days as accompanying a Canadian spouse. Would that lead to the revocation of her PR status? Also, would I be able to sponsor her again afterward, or would that be difficult?

 

[armoured]

Can't agree more, but as you mentioned, the dates from the earlier part of the period will soon start dropping off. The concern is that, without any (H&C) considerations, she may be required to leave soon.

Very important: why do you think she would have to leave? She is not required to have a current/valid PR card. She's a PR without one. The card is not the status. Just remain in Canada until in compliance, then apply.

Yes, if there's some reason to apply before this, she can apply relying upon the days abroad with you. But it will take longer, and it is a bit of a grey area. For the most part, those applying to use this use it for longer periods abroad when eg the Canadian citizen had to move abroad for work for a period.

I’m not sure what the outcome would be if, in the worst-case scenario, IRCC does not count the 98 days as accompanying a Canadian spouse. Would that lead to the revocation of her PR status? Also, would I be able to sponsor her again afterward, or would that be difficult?

You're getting ahead of yourself here in my opinion. Let's clarify above first.

And let's be clear: if she has spent less than two years here in the last five, that's not just "she had to travel frequently." It's living abroad for a substantial chunk of the time period. So not sure that cutting it close further is in her interests.