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msalahkar

Member
Feb 23, 2016
13
0
Guys

I am in a problem regarding ECA.

1. Did BBA(hons) from iqra university in 2012. Iqra is not listed on WES
2. Did CIMA (chartered institute of Management accountants-UK) and became a member in Feb 2016. CES UoT says they dont evaluate professional qualification.

I believe many other Pakistanis who hold a degree+professional qualification (Like ACCA,CIMA) face the same problem as i want to get both on my ECA. Can anyone guide what to do about it?? Thanks
 

fkl

VIP Member
Apr 25, 2013
3,351
218
Canada
Visa Office......
Inland / Previously Pak
NOC Code......
2173/4
msalahkar said:
Guys

I am in a problem regarding ECA.

1. Did BBA(hons) from iqra university in 2012. Iqra is not listed on WES
2. Did CIMA (chartered institute of Management accountants-UK) and became a member in Feb 2016. CES UoT says they dont evaluate professional qualification.

I believe many other Pakistanis who hold a degree+professional qualification (Like ACCA,CIMA) face the same problem as i want to get both on my ECA. Can anyone guide what to do about it?? Thanks
There are other institutions apart from WES which do ECA. At least one of them is used by people in this situation. I guess I have read of many such cases. You have to go through requirements of each of them.
 

seeramzan

Star Member
Feb 21, 2016
79
22
hb_rashidy said:
I ve recently attested my docs from BISE Multan.
They ve 2 departments for degree attestation. 1 is at the reception, 2500 rs. for 1 certificate. and they will then send docs to IBCC lhr. (That is not required for Canada) However I did that. And my docs were rejected by WES. So I went again, there is another department especially for Canada. It is inside Board Building. They will charge 5200 for Matric n F.Sc. Bring WES form with you, as it is required there. Then they will post it by their own to WES and will charge separately for that.
Thanks brother , How many days multan board will take, actually i am not in Pakistan so i will ask some one to do that from me from Multan Baord
 

hamadkhalid

Member
Feb 13, 2016
11
0
Ok guys i have applied for ICAS, and they have emailed me the file number etc.
so according to this link icascanada.ca/new/immigration-to-canada.aspx/document-detail.aspx?document=be9ed032-0d4e-4bc1-aa6b-af6ee26fa4d0

i just need to email them my HEC attested degrees in an HEC envelope and my metric and intermediate degree. (Let me know if i missed something else)

In the form they emailed me, they have given me a cover letter, and the first content is the blanks with heading, documents which your institute will email us directly.. but according to the link , they do not require any documents from my university. Should i leave that area empty ?

Thanks
 

bahadur

Hero Member
Jan 2, 2015
250
9
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
6221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-Nov-2015 SINP
Nomination.....
SINP EE 05-Dec-2015
AOR Received.
04-Nov-2015 SINP EE
IELTS Request
Upfront
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
27-Jan-2016 Med Passed
Passport Req..
11-March-2016
VISA ISSUED...
11-March-2016
LANDED..........
27-May-2016
hamadkhalid said:
Ok guys i have applied for ICAS, and they have emailed me the file number etc.
so according to this link icascanada.ca/new/immigration-to-canada.aspx/document-detail.aspx?document=be9ed032-0d4e-4bc1-aa6b-af6ee26fa4d0

i just need to email them my HEC attested degrees in an HEC envelope and my metric and intermediate degree. (Let me know if i missed something else)

In the form they emailed me, they have given me a cover letter, and the first content is the blanks with heading, documents which your institute will email us directly.. but according to the link , they do not require any documents from my university. Should i leave that area empty ?

Thanks
HEC-attested photocopies of both the graduation diploma / degree certificate and marks certificates submitted to ICAS in an envelope that has been signed and sealed by the Islamabad office of the HEC (Higher Education Commission). It means you need to send them the sealed envelope including your degree certificate and marks or transcripts to their postal address not through email.
 

noorulhuda

Hero Member
Dec 16, 2015
349
18
Manitoba, Canada
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
2172
Passport Req..
08-Jan-2018
VISA ISSUED...
19-Jan-2018
LANDED..........
21-Feb-2018
Thank your murtazajaffri_cca for your reply.

Noor
 

hamadkhalid

Member
Feb 13, 2016
11
0
bahadur said:
HEC-attested photocopies of both the graduation diploma / degree certificate and marks certificates submitted to ICAS in an envelope that has been signed and sealed by the Islamabad office of the HEC (Higher Education Commission). It means you need to send them the sealed envelope including your degree certificate and marks or transcripts to their postal address not through email.
OK I have sent my docs, via DHL. And according to DHL, my docs have been received, but it's been 2 days and my current status of the application does not state this. how much time does it take icas to update the status??
 

bahadur

Hero Member
Jan 2, 2015
250
9
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
6221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-Nov-2015 SINP
Nomination.....
SINP EE 05-Dec-2015
AOR Received.
04-Nov-2015 SINP EE
IELTS Request
Upfront
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
27-Jan-2016 Med Passed
Passport Req..
11-March-2016
VISA ISSUED...
11-March-2016
LANDED..........
27-May-2016
hamadkhalid said:
OK I have sent my docs, via DHL. And according to DHL, my docs have been received, but it's been 2 days and my current status of the application does not state this. how much time does it take icas to update the status??
I do not know that but give it fair time. It will be updated
 

goodluckcharm

Full Member
Dec 17, 2015
32
2
Congratulations to all those who got PPR. I've been a silent observer of this forum and I must admit that this forum and people here have helped us a lot throughout our express entry journey. I thank each and everyone one of you as we have finally ended our journey by receiving PPR on 30th March. Our category and timeline is mentioned below:

Category: FSW outland
CRS: 465
ITA: Oct 2nd
AOR: Nov 15th
Schedule A request: Nov 18th (submitted Nov 20th)
RPRF and additional documents: Jan 5th (submitted Jan 12th)
Medical pass: March 16th
PPR: March 30th
PP sent: March 31st


We wish you all a successful ending with PPR soon. Good luck everyone! :D :D :D

May I ask seniors how long does Islamabad office takes to stamp visa on your passport?
 

bahadur

Hero Member
Jan 2, 2015
250
9
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
6221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-Nov-2015 SINP
Nomination.....
SINP EE 05-Dec-2015
AOR Received.
04-Nov-2015 SINP EE
IELTS Request
Upfront
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
27-Jan-2016 Med Passed
Passport Req..
11-March-2016
VISA ISSUED...
11-March-2016
LANDED..........
27-May-2016
goodluckcharm said:
Congratulations to all those who got PPR. I've been a silent observer of this forum and I must admit that this forum and people here have helped us a lot throughout our express entry journey. I thank each and everyone one of you as we have finally ended our journey by receiving PPR on 30th March. Our category and timeline is mentioned below:

Category: FSW outland
CRS: 465
ITA: Oct 2nd
AOR: Nov 15th
Schedule A request: Nov 18th (submitted Nov 20th)
RPRF and additional documents: Jan 5th (submitted Jan 12th)
Medical pass: March 16th
PPR: March 30th
PP sent: March 31st


We wish you all a successful ending with PPR soon. Good luck everyone! :D :D :D

May I ask seniors how long does Islamabad office takes to stamp visa on your passport?
I have submitted my passports on 15 March 2016 and still have not got any update.
 

harry899

Star Member
Nov 15, 2015
74
1
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18/09
AOR Received.
07/11
File Transfer...
06/11
Med's Done....
10/11, BG: IP 05/04
Passport Req..
12/04
goodluckcharm said:
Congratulations to all those who got PPR. I've been a silent observer of this forum and I must admit that this forum and people here have helped us a lot throughout our express entry journey. I thank each and everyone one of you as we have finally ended our journey by receiving PPR on 30th March. Our category and timeline is mentioned below:

Category: FSW outland
CRS: 465
ITA: Oct 2nd
AOR: Nov 15th
Schedule A request: Nov 18th (submitted Nov 20th)
RPRF and additional documents: Jan 5th (submitted Jan 12th)
Medical pass: March 16th
PPR: March 30th
PP sent: March 31st


We wish you all a successful ending with PPR soon. Good luck everyone! :D :D :D

May I ask seniors how long does Islamabad office takes to stamp visa on your passport?
Congratx alot man :) the wait game is over for you finally.

May I ask, why were you requested Sch A, and what were the additional documents required?
 

bahadur

Hero Member
Jan 2, 2015
250
9
Category........
Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
6221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-Nov-2015 SINP
Nomination.....
SINP EE 05-Dec-2015
AOR Received.
04-Nov-2015 SINP EE
IELTS Request
Upfront
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
27-Jan-2016 Med Passed
Passport Req..
11-March-2016
VISA ISSUED...
11-March-2016
LANDED..........
27-May-2016
goodluckcharm said:
Congratulations to all those who got PPR. I've been a silent observer of this forum and I must admit that this forum and people here have helped us a lot throughout our express entry journey. I thank each and everyone one of you as we have finally ended our journey by receiving PPR on 30th March. Our category and timeline is mentioned below:

Category: FSW outland
CRS: 465
ITA: Oct 2nd
AOR: Nov 15th
Schedule A request: Nov 18th (submitted Nov 20th)
RPRF and additional documents: Jan 5th (submitted Jan 12th)
Medical pass: March 16th
PPR: March 30th
PP sent: March 31st


We wish you all a successful ending with PPR soon. Good luck everyone! :D :D :D

May I ask seniors how long does Islamabad office takes to stamp visa on your passport?
Many Congratulations.
 

goodluckcharm

Full Member
Dec 17, 2015
32
2
harry899 said:
Congratx alot man :) the wait game is over for you finally.

May I ask, why were you requested Sch A, and what were the additional documents required?
Thanks. I am not really sure why they requested Sch A as we had already provided them with this information when filing the application. the additional documents that were requested latter were regarding the statuary question as we answered yes to one of those questions in sch A. We (my husband and myself) had a visit visa rejection few years ago so they were asking for refusal letters and reason of rejection.

I hope this was helpful.
 

askaan305

Star Member
Feb 28, 2016
68
32
SAUDI ARABIA
Category........
Visa Office......
Abu Dhabi
NOC Code......
2132
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
26-10-2015
AOR Received.
26-10-2015
Med's Done....
29-10-2015
CIC processing strategy
As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of an standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicants age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score is affected. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here.

7. At the R10 review if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually by this stage the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a re-assesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send you application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal application which is still in progress.

This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have. Don't be a parasite.
 

usman_14pk

Champion Member
Jan 29, 2013
1,077
47
Hi guys,

It's been 91 days now since I submitted my application for ONIP. My CSR points are 448 :-/
When should I accept AOR/Nomination Tongue from Ontario?