Ordering Notes: Privacy Act or Access to Info Act?

[KandyK]

so why would anyone want to order through ATIP for $5 when you can order it for free through Privacy Act?

It's kind of too late for me (I hope we have ordered our last set of notes before we get PPR), but maybe useful for others!

Yea im not sure. I would go with free option. But the site says the free one is for people inside canada. Citizens, PR or any individuals inside Canada. It's a bit confusing i find.

 

[HeyKenGuy]

so why would anyone want to order through ATIP for $5 when you can order it for free through Privacy Act?

you can only order through Privacy act if your'e a Canadian citizen

 

[KBH]

Just to update here since some people were wondering about the Privacy Act... the reason there is a difference is because you can only order notes through the Privacy Act if the PA is present in Canada. You don't have to be a Canadian citizen, you just have to be present in the country. If the PA is not in Canada, then the notes cannot be ordered via the Privacy Act, they have to be ordered through ATIP for $5. However, if the PA is in Canada, they can order through the Privacy Act for free.

I'm American, currently in Canada while my application is processing, I requested notes via the Privacy Act a week ago and just received a call today from IRCC verifying that I am currently present in Canada. They confirmed I am and are now going to proceed with processing my request.

 

[majesty]

Just to update here since some people were wondering about the Privacy Act... the reason there is a difference is because you can only order notes through the Privacy Act if the PA is present in Canada. You don't have to be a Canadian citizen, you just have to be present in the country. If the PA is not in Canada, then the notes cannot be ordered via the Privacy Act, they have to be ordered through ATIP for $5. However, if the PA is in Canada, they can order through the Privacy Act for free.

I'm American, currently in Canada while my application is processing, I requested notes via the Privacy Act a week ago and just received a call today from IRCC verifying that I am currently present in Canada. They confirmed I am and are now going to proceed with processing my request.

So you ordered the notes yourself and you are the PA?

Is this different from the sponsor ordering through the privacy act as 2 other people here ordered them and said they got them same as through ATIP and they didn't ask them that their spouse was in Canada?

 

[KBH]

So you ordered the notes yourself and you are the PA?

Is this different from the sponsor ordering through the privacy act as 2 other people here ordered them and said they got them same as through ATIP and they didn't ask them that their spouse was in Canada?

It sounds like a goof-up on IRCC's part if a sponsor was able to order through both ATIP and Privacy Act and their spouse was not in Canada. This is from the IRCC site: "Note: Personal information which belongs to an individual who is not a Canadian citizen, a permanent resident of Canada or currently living in Canada must be requested under the Access to Information Act." Privacy Act only works if the PA is in Canada. The sponsor can still request on behalf of the PA via the Privacy Act, but the PA still needs to be in Canada in order for them to do so. That's my understanding, anyway!

 

[majesty]

It sounds like a goof-up on IRCC's part if a sponsor was able to order through both ATIP and Privacy Act and their spouse was not in Canada. This is from the IRCC site: "Note: Personal information which belongs to an individual who is not a Canadian citizen, a permanent resident of Canada or currently living in Canada must be requested under the Access to Information Act." Privacy Act only works if the PA is in Canada. The sponsor can still request on behalf of the PA via the Privacy Act, but the PA still needs to be in Canada in order for them to do so. That's my understanding, anyway!

That makes sense!

 

[steph_2015]

thx though

I was able to order my wifes with no charge using the privacy act

Hello HeyKey,

When you applied for the Privacy Act for your wife. Was your wife abroad (not in Canada) and the principal applicant? I am asking because I applied for my brother by uploading his consent and submitting on his behalf. He is not in Canada and is the principal applicant. Do you think I should apply for the ATIP instead?

Pls do let me know, thanks
SW

 

[steph_2015]

So you ordered the notes yourself and you are the PA?

Is this different from the sponsor ordering through the privacy act as 2 other people here ordered them and said they got them same as through ATIP and they didn't ask them that their spouse was in Canada?

Hello,

Were you able to find the answer?
I applied for my brother by uploading his consent and submitting on his behalf. He is not in Canada and is the principal applicant. Do you think I should apply for the ATIP instead?

Pls do let me know, thanks
SW