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OINP (Health + Tech) Draw - July 20, 2023

Shravan_Kumar

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Why suddenly they did for 458 - 462? any idea?
In my opinion it’s because the last healthcare EE draw was at 463. OINP issued a healthcare + tech draw and decided to have the cutoff just below the last healthcare cutoff to ensure they don’t lose out applicants to EE. It’s not fair to the tech candidates between 463 to 478 but I don’t think they have thought this through properly. They could have had a separate cutoff for health and tech but that would take someone from OINP to actually think. This could all change if there is a big STEM draw upcoming that we have no idea about but they have some inside information on it, but that’s very unlikely.
 
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ForeverHopeful2023

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My 2 cents on this topic. I really don’t like to post but something triggered me today. I got my PR approved in 2022 and landed in Canada January 2023. I was there till June 2023 and earlier this month I left Canada permanently for USA. Reason: 1) Cost of living too high. 2) Only jobs I was getting was Tim Hortons and Seven Eleven. 3) Housing unaffordable ( was paying $2900 for an apartment in Brampton). 4) Doctors not accepting new patients ( will need a referral for a specialist doctor, I was given a date after 2 months for a leg sprain treatment). I’m not trying to demotivate anyone but think twice about your decision. It is one of the best country in the world but there are problems. Have a solid plan about what you are doing and what you want to do in future ( what if things don’t work out ) . Sometimes if things are not working out in your favor means that it’s gods indication that it’s not worth it. You’re saved from something bad happening to you.

Stay strong. All the best
Thanks for sharing your experience, its helps to know that however much we think the grass is greener on the other side, we should also properly manage our expectations
 

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My 2 cents on this topic. I really don’t like to post but something triggered me today. I got my PR approved in 2022 and landed in Canada January 2023. I was there till June 2023 and earlier this month I left Canada permanently for USA. Reason: 1) Cost of living too high. 2) Only jobs I was getting was Tim Hortons and Seven Eleven. 3) Housing unaffordable ( was paying $2900 for an apartment in Brampton). 4) Doctors not accepting new patients ( will need a referral for a specialist doctor, I was given a date after 2 months for a leg sprain treatment). I’m not trying to demotivate anyone but think twice about your decision. It is one of the best country in the world but there are problems. Have a solid plan about what you are doing and what you want to do in future ( what if things don’t work out ) . Sometimes if things are not working out in your favor means that it’s gods indication that it’s not worth it. You’re saved from something bad happening to you.

Stay strong. All the best
Lets break this down a bit by bit:

1 and 3.) Since you mention Brampton I am assuming you were in GTA region. GTA region is the equivalent of Los Angeles and Manhattan neighbourhoods of US. The cost of living is naturally going to be high but still comparatively cheaper. If you are an Indian think of South Mumbai Region or South Delhi. If you are an immigrant it's natural to think it's going to be costly if you rent an apartment somewhere around. This is a very subjective matter and depends on the area. Ottawa is cheaper and so is Waterloo. You can find a 1 bed in London Ontario for around 1600. But no one is talking about places like these. They all want Greater Toronto Area for cheap.

2) Depends on your expertise and how you can prove it. If a Software Engineer who's worked at let's say Uber in the past or has a Google internship on his resume looks for a job, he would ideally have no trouble regardless of the location. This is true in any country. If you are hoping just cause you moved to Toronto anyone will hire you and pay those fancy salaries, you are wrong. You have to spend some time proving you are worth the job because most of your experience will not be from Canada or even your education from any English speaking country. The first year or two you will have a tough time (you have lived only for 6 months).

Remember when applying to Canadian jobs. You have to forget your history and start fresh. You might take a few steps back in your career and you might not like it at first but it is what it is. Emigration is never easy and never was.

4) Health care is instant for emergencies. Other than that I agree there is a problem. A simple MRI for non emergency cases might take you a long time. I believe this will improve down the road. But again this is the case in regions like GTA. I wonder what it would be like in Nova Scotia or Manitoba. Maybe you can get an appointment there quicker if you were from that region.

The thing is USA (place you moved to) has its downsides too (I have studied lived worked there). Healthcare is a scam. People would rather die than go to a hospital if they didn't have good insurance. Your sprain will get looked at immediately but they will charge you a couple of thousand dollars for it. For that money I can get you the best ortho in my city in India. Book a flight get it looked at go back. It will still be cheaper.

Jobs are tricky in US too. It's heavily tied to your H1B. H1B is unlikely to change as immigration in US is broken and will be. So while you will get a job relatively easier than Canada (cause more jobs are available less people with education who can even qualify for that job) you never know when you will be sent home packing to your country. No you won't just be fired, you will have to leave the country if you can't find another H1B job quickly (60 days if you haven't used up that time before or even less). A huge difference between US and Canada. If you have a family then this is a big factor as your entire life is uprooted. I know people who left US cause no green card for years and job situation was bad as well for them. Living everyday in uncertainty is no fun.

The truth is think carefully no matter where you go in the world when you leave your home. Life will be tougher than you expect it be. USA is still the top destination for immigrants around the world as whether you agree to it or not, they are and will be the most powerful country in the world for quite a few years or decades. They have talent, they have the resources, but their Northern neighbours aren't that bad either.

I would rather go settle in a country that treats me as wanted and welcomes me with open arms. Not somewhere they think I am expendable.
 

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Lets break this down a bit by bit:

1 and 3.) Since you mention Brampton I am assuming you were in GTA region. GTA region is the equivalent of Los Angeles and Manhattan neighbourhoods of US. The cost of living is naturally going to be high but still comparatively cheaper. If you are an Indian think of South Mumbai Region or South Delhi. If you are an immigrant it's natural to think it's going to be costly if you rent an apartment somewhere around. This is a very subjective matter and depends on the area. Ottawa is cheaper and so is Waterloo. You can find a 1 bed in London Ontario for around 1600. But no one is talking about places like these. They all want Greater Toronto Area for cheap.

2) Depends on your expertise and how you can prove it. If a Software Engineer who's worked at let's say Uber in the past or has a Google internship on his resume looks for a job, he would ideally have no trouble regardless of the location. This is true in any country. If you are hoping just cause you moved to Toronto anyone will hire you and pay those fancy salaries, you are wrong. You have to spend some time proving you are worth the job because most of your experience will not be from Canada or even your education from any English speaking country. The first year or two you will have a tough time (you have lived only for 6 months).

Remember when applying to Canadian jobs. You have to forget your history and start fresh. You might take a few steps back in your career and you might not like it at first but it is what it is. Emigration is never easy and never was.

4) Health care is instant for emergencies. Other than that I agree there is a problem. A simple MRI for non emergency cases might take you a long time. I believe this will improve down the road. But again this is the case in regions like GTA. I wonder what it would be like in Nova Scotia or Manitoba. Maybe you can get an appointment there quicker if you were from that region.

The thing is USA (place you moved to) has its downsides too (I have studied lived worked there). Healthcare is a scam. People would rather die than go to a hospital if they didn't have good insurance. Your sprain will get looked at immediately but they will charge you a couple of thousand dollars for it. For that money I can get you the best ortho in my city in India. Book a flight get it looked at go back. It will still be cheaper.

Jobs are tricky in US too. It's heavily tied to your H1B. H1B is unlikely to change as immigration in US is broken and will be. So while you will get a job relatively easier than Canada (cause more jobs are available less people with education who can even qualify for that job) you never know when you will be sent home packing to your country. No you won't just be fired, you will have to leave the country if you can't find another H1B job quickly (60 days if you haven't used up that time before or even less). A huge difference between US and Canada. If you have a family then this is a big factor as your entire life is uprooted. I know people who left US cause no green card for years and job situation was bad as well for them. Living everyday in uncertainty is no fun.

The truth is think carefully no matter where you go in the world when you leave your home. Life will be tougher than you expect it be. USA is still the top destination for immigrants around the world as whether you agree to it or not, they are and will be the most powerful country in the world for quite a few years or decades. They have talent, they have the resources, but their Northern neighbours aren't that bad either.

I would rather go settle in a country that treats me as wanted and welcomes me with open arms. Not somewhere they think I am expendable.
Ofcourse only possible when we get the nomination, which seems will take "decades". :(
 
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