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warpeduniverse

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Nada. Nothing has happened since December 13th. Can you explain what this gibberish means by any chance?
So this is the first level check that usually happens at the Centralized Intake Office. The Program Assistant verifies certain documents like your ECA, IELTS score, PCC, etc., and provides his recommendation. This is basically a no brainer as the documents just need to be verified online on the issuing agency's website. If you have submitted an LOE (Client Information), then that is set for review by an officer.

Similarly, a Case Agent does a more in-depth review of the documents like assessing your work experience, whether your duties in the reference letter are in line with the NOC, years of work ex, your proof of funds, etc. The agent marks his assessment as 'appears to meet' if he is satisfied, or 'review required' if he wants the senior officer to take a closer look. Let's look at the snapshot below.

FSW Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, | make the following recommendation.

MI3 A11.2: Met R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Appears Met R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS : APPEARS TO MEET R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FUNDS : APPEARS TO MEET FSW points total: 71 Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete


As you can see, the agent has is broadly satisfied with all your documents and marked your eligibility as 'Met'. At this stage, the RPRF (The Right of Permanent Residence Fee) request is issued to the applicant for further processing of the application. Many people pay this fee in the beginning only so this request is only issued to those who have not paid the entire fee while filing the application. Meeting eligibility requirements is a positive sign and usually the senior officer agrees with the recommendation of the junior officers especially if nothing is marked for review. It is important to note that 'Client Information' is usually marked for review for all applicants and it is nothing to worry about. An ADR (Additional Document Request) is issued to the applicant if further verification is required. As this stage the file transferred to a certain office(like Ottawa, Sydney, Calgary, or regional offices like New Delhi, Accra, etc.) for final decision.

Now this is where it gets tricky. One would assume that meeting eligibility should mean that the application is almost finalized and the PPR should be triggered within a few days. However, this is exactly where we enter the blackbox. Senior officers are obviously fewer than junior officers,and they have to obviously do a more in-depth analysis of the documents before issuing the PPR. Many applicants receive their PR a few days after RPRF as their files are picked up by the senior officer quickly or they wait like you and I for months waiting for the officer to look at the file. None of us have any clue about how the files are prioritized, it could based on NOC, score, no. of applicants, ease of verification, country of residence, etc. Nobody has any idea about this. Writing to IRCC and inquiring about the status yields standard answers that do not provide much information. So this is where one waits to be heard.

It is important to note that meeting eligibility does not mean that the senior officer will always agree with the junior officer's recommendation. He will agree in most cases, but may ask for more information if he is not satisfied. He may even overrule the junior officer negative recommendation (if any) and give a positive recommendation. But, in essence, meeting eligibility is a positive development.

In short, you, I and many others are in IP1 (i.e. background check not started) since December 2018 and are waiting for a final decision.

Best of luck!
 
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AbC2303

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Jan 23, 2019
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So this is the first level check that usually happens at the Centralized Intake Office. The Program Assistant verifies certain documents like your ECA, IELTS score, PCC, etc., and provides his recommendation. This is basically a no brainer as the documents just need to be verified online on the issuing agency's website. If you have submitted an LOE (Client Information), then that is set for review by an officer.

Similarly, a Case Agent does a more in-depth review of the documents like assessing your work experience, whether your duties in the reference letter are in line with the NOC, years of work ex, your proof of funds, etc. The agent marks his assessment as 'appears to meet' if he is satisfied, or 'review required' if he wants the senior officer to take a closer look. Let's look at the snapshot below.

FSW Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, | make the following recommendation.

MI3 A11.2: Met R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Appears Met R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS : APPEARS TO MEET R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FUNDS : APPEARS TO MEET FSW points total: 71 Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete


As you can see, the agent has is broadly satisfied with all your documents and marked your eligibility as 'Met'. At this stage, the RPRF (The Right of Permanent Residence Fee) request is issued to the applicant for further processing of the application. Many people pay this fee in the beginning only so this request is only issued to those who have not paid the entire fee while filing the application. Meeting eligibility requirements is a positive sign and usually the senior officer agrees with the recommendation of the junior officers especially if nothing is marked for review. It is important to note that 'Client Information' is usually marked for review for all applicants and it is nothing to worry about. An ADR (Additional Document Request) is issued to the applicant if further verification is required. As this stage the file transferred to a certain office(like Ottawa, Sydney, Calgary, or regional offices like New Delhi, Accra, etc.) for final decision.

Now this is where it gets tricky. One would assume that meeting eligibility should mean that the application is almost finalized and the PPR should be triggered within a few days. However, this is exactly where we enter the blackbox. Senior officers are obviously fewer than junior officers,and they have to obviously do a more in-depth analysis of the documents before issuing the PPR. Many applicants receive their PR a few days after RPRF as their files are picked up by the senior officer quickly or they wait like you and I for months waiting for the officer to look at the file. None of us have any clue about how the files are prioritized, it could based on NOC, score, no. of applicants, ease of verification, country of residence, etc. Nobody has any idea about this. Writing to IRCC and inquiring about the status yields standard answers that do not provide much information. So this is where one waits to be heard.

It is important to note that meeting eligibility does not mean that the senior officer will always agree with the junior officer's recommendation. He will agree in most cases, but may ask for more information if he is not satisfied. He may even overrule the junior officer negative recommendation (if any) and give a positive recommendation. But, in essence, meeting eligibility is a positive development.

In short, you, I and many others are in IP1 (i.e. background check not started) since December 2018 and are waiting for a final decision.

Best of luck!
Thank you so much for this detailed explanation. Got some nice insights. My medical results are expiring on October 5th. Am guessing yours isn't too far either. Good luck to you too. What's your NOC btw? I am yet to come across anyone who has 5122.
 

bon_v

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Dec 27, 2018
235
171
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
NBO
NOC Code......
0125
Pre-Assessed..
Yes
App. Filed.......
20-11-2018
Doc's Request.
20-11-2018
Nomination.....
29-10-2018
AOR Received.
20-11-2018
Med's Request
12-11-2018
Med's Done....
20-11-2018
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warpeduniverse

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Apr 28, 2019
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Thank you so much for this detailed explanation. Got some nice insights. My medical results are expiring on October 5th. Am guessing yours isn't too far either. Good luck to you too. What's your NOC btw? I am yet to come across anyone who has 5122.
Happy to help!
My NOC is 1113, which is also pretty rare. Medical is expiring on October 23rd. Feel free to add your info to the tracker that we have created for November 2018 folks (link below). You will also find city-wise and NOC-wise accepted candidates in sheet 2 and 3. It will give you some clarity on the distribution of accepted applicants.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11oVBQuoR_WKD_N5qqQfEgUJ0j1QlxQUU7JtWdiOvjZw/edit#gid=0
 

seantung

Star Member
Nov 29, 2018
156
82
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
2173
Nomination.....
SK-EE
AOR Received.
26-Nov-2018
Med's Done....
2018-12-14
Congratulations.
Why were in SS? Did you serve in government or military ?
I assume because of the university with a military background.
 

warpeduniverse

Hero Member
Apr 28, 2019
234
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Thank you so much for this detailed explanation. Got some nice insights. My medical results are expiring on October 5th. Am guessing yours isn't too far either. Good luck to you too. What's your NOC btw? I am yet to come across anyone who has 5122.
From what I can gather from my research, I feel that eligibility 'met' files are being prioritized based on NOC. If there is no demand for a particular NOC then they keep that file on the backburner. Otherwise, I don't see any reason for them to not look at our files.
 

seantung

Star Member
Nov 29, 2018
156
82
Category........
PNP
NOC Code......
2173
Nomination.....
SK-EE
AOR Received.
26-Nov-2018
Med's Done....
2018-12-14
How come you got to know about your SS through Ralphs email.. what was the indicator? Did he explicitly say that you are in SS.. and what was the indicator in GCMS to come to conclusion of SS
Ralph just tells when SS starts, normally if Security Check does not finish within a month, comprehensive one involves. And from GCMS notes, there are some indicators like s.15, s.16, pages or lines of content erased. You can search threads talking about how to read notes.
But ordering CSIS and CBSA is the only way to confirm comprehensive security check right now.
 
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Ashan86

Full Member
Sep 16, 2019
28
19
Hi All,
A simple question please..
Medical expiry is the day we took medical exam or the day we passed per our account?
For me, medical test was done on Nov 3 but passed per account on Jan 3.
Please help so I can plan when I need to reach
 

Priya0227

Champion Member
Mar 7, 2019
1,038
894
Hi All,
A simple question please..
Medical expiry is the day we took medical exam or the day we passed per our account?
For me, medical test was done on Nov 3 but passed per account on Jan 3.
Please help so I can plan when I need to reach
Medical expires on the the day it was conducted
 

AbC2303

Member
Jan 23, 2019
11
5
Happy to help!
My NOC is 1113, which is also pretty rare. Medical is expiring on October 23rd. Feel free to add your info to the tracker that we have created for November 2018 folks (link below). You will also find city-wise and NOC-wise accepted candidates in sheet 2 and 3. It will give you some clarity on the distribution of accepted applicants.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11oVBQuoR_WKD_N5qqQfEgUJ0j1QlxQUU7JtWdiOvjZw/edit#gid=0
Hey Thanks again. I had added my name long back in the sheet as AbC0323pool. This sheet already made more sense that the consolidated immitracker sheet I had filled in ages ago. Gonna study the patterns of NOC and City wise distribution as well.
 

AbC2303

Member
Jan 23, 2019
11
5
From what I can gather from my research, I feel that eligibility 'met' files are being prioritized based on NOC. If there is no demand for a particular NOC then they keep that file on the backburner. Otherwise, I don't see any reason for them to not look at our files.
Well at least you have some theories that make sense. I went back and checked some of your old posts. Those helped me quite a bit. On the whole though, I still feel the entire working system is bogus, with little or no transparency. And their stupid progress bar and 6 months processing time claim is nothing short of hokum. And their 'channels of communication' are unhelpful at best.
 

zabrodov

Hero Member
Sep 19, 2018
593
310
Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Montreal
NOC Code......
4163
App. Filed.......
11-11-2018
AOR Received.
11-11-2018
File Transfer...
24-01-2019
Passport Req..
02-08-2019
LANDED..........
02-09-2019
From what I can gather from my research, I feel that eligibility 'met' files are being prioritized based on NOC. If there is no demand for a particular NOC then they keep that file on the backburner. Otherwise, I don't see any reason for them to not look at our files.
My classmate who has the exact same NOC as me, lived in the town nearby and who submitted his profile 2 weeks before me, got his PPR in 4 months straight from CIO Sydney. My PPR took 8.5 months with the file being transferred from CIO to Montreal.

I don't think there is any prioritization based on NOC. I think that they put files aside if they wait for a 3rd party information, after this information becomes available, they put the file in the queue but this queue also consists of applications for all kinds of visas. If you are lucky then your queue will be short, if you are unlucky then your line will be long and you might need to wait more. Also I believe that our files go through a lot of lines throughout the process.

Immigration is not a top priority for the government. There are much more urgent visas than ours - visitor visa and student visa are just 2 examples.
 

Midnight Blessing

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Mar 16, 2017
767
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asking to all the VIP & Champion members, pls advice:

One of my friend have entered his job duration of 5.5 years in his work experience section, however he has a 7 months unpaid leave in the 4th year. But as he is not claiming any additional CRS points for his work experience after 3 years and also as his MEC points is 71 even after leaving that unpaid period he is thinking about not mentioning it using LOE and also his employer has given him reference letter without mentioning the leave period.

Considering his situation as he is not claiming any points for this experience do you think he should apply without mentioning about this leave? or he should mention and add LOE/ add personal history/ take new reference letter and then apply? he is scared as it is not a big deal doing the later one can complex the situation so he is wanting to avoid it. What is your advice in this?
 

zafontana

Star Member
Apr 22, 2019
128
145
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2171
App. Filed.......
09-11-2018
AOR Received.
09-11-2018
Med's Done....
11-12-2018
Hi All,
A simple question please..
Medical expiry is the day we took medical exam or the day we passed per our account?
For me, medical test was done on Nov 3 but passed per account on Jan 3.
Please help so I can plan when I need to reach
Neither, it expires the day the clinic sends it to CIC. My husband and I took the exams on September 27th. His exams had an expiry date of October 1st. As for myself, they requested an extra exam and then my expiry date was after I took that one, November 21st.