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rmorgan

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I search out dpenabill's post on any topics...they are a treasure trove of pearls :) Much appreciated. As are posts by some others, like spyfy!
 

wamfeo

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Does it hurt including all the pages of the passport? and giving all the details of your holidays like address, postal code etc?
 

azazaz

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I, for a fact, learn a lot from dpenabills posts and try to use that knowledge to help others. Again, no one forces you to read his/her posts. If you don't like them, just ignore them and don't whine about it. You are coming here to get help (I assume) but seem set to complain about those who are trying to help. The irony.
do not repeat urself..u said that already.. by the way r u his/her lawyer..lol
 

spyfy

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Don't feed the troll, I guess.
 

dpenabill

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Does it hurt including all the pages of the passport? and giving all the details of your holidays like address, postal code etc?
There is NO advantage, nothing to be gained, by including a copy of all pages in passports with the application. So there is NO reason to do that.

Likewise as to information which is not requested, such as more detailed information about location abroad (unless residing abroad), or in response to other items in the application.

The overriding principles are not complicated:
-- If in doubt, follow the instructions; otherwise, yep, follow the instructions
-- Be RESPONSIVE and TRUTHFUL

Note, for example, there is NO item in either the application form or the presence calculator which asks for detailed address of places stayed in temporarily while on holidays. At the risk of over-the-top hyperbole, asking whether it is OK (not a problem) to nonetheless submit such information is akin to asking whether submitting one's favourite recipe will hurt. Probably not, although a total stranger bureaucrat may do some head scratching and wonder what is going on, and wonder why.

Bureaucratic processing tends to proceed best when the applicant keeps the colouring inside the lines.


More re exceptions, when to include additional information:

There are, of course, some exceptions to the general principle about responding to what is specifically requested and no more. In particular, there are some occasions, some circumstances, in which providing additional information or documentation is OK, even a good idea, and in some instances it SHOULD be included. I addressed some general principles about this in my previous post above.

If there is no advantage to be gained by submitting additional information (which is almost always the case), there is no reason to take even a very small risk it could have some negative influence.


Address History in Particular:

IRCC/CIC generally orients its assessment of address history around full calendar months. This is not carved in stone. This is not a formal rule. Indeed, requests for address history are more about divulging where one was in fact residing than it is about what is a person's address legally or technically. Thus, for example, your query about holiday addresses is a good question if it is about holidays long enough to span a full calendar month.

As usual, however, an applicant needs to approach this based on his or her particular, specific circumstances, and use his or her best judgment to give an honest, informative response.

For time abroad, that is easily disclosed in the presence calculator; whether to provide more detail than city and country is up to the applicant. Whether to list the abroad location in the address history depends on factors like whether or not the applicant maintained his or her primary residence in Canada while abroad, the duration of time abroad, the extent to which the applicant was more or less actually residing there rather than visiting (and of course if engaged in employment or business while there, that tends to weigh in favour of disclosing it in both address and work history, recognizing if employed or engaged in business, that must be disclosed in the work history).

The main thing is to honestly provide the information IRCC specifically asks for and to otherwise NOT be evasive, misleading, or deceptive. If, according to the applicant's sincere judgment, additional information is needed to avoid being evasive or misleading, that weighs in favour of including it.

Reminder: there is no advantage to including additional information to support the application. If additional information is at all needed to make the case, including that information up front, with the application, is NOT likely to help. IRCC will ask for it later in the process, and usually it will do so even if the applicant has already submitted it.
 
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Very informative. Thank you!