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Not meeting 730 days 5 years after landing in Canada, but meeting it before PR Card expires

PaNeumann

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Jan 12, 2020
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My parents landed on May 29, 2015.
On May 29, 2020 they will be short by 15 days to meet the required 730 days.
Their PR card is valid until Aug 21, 2020.
Would it be Ok for them to meet the 730 days before August 21 and not loose their PR status?
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
My parents landed on May 29, 2015.
On May 29, 2020 they will be short by 15 days to meet the required 730 days.
Their PR card is valid until Aug 21, 2020.
Would it be Ok for them to meet the 730 days before August 21 and not loose their PR status?
PR card expiry date is irrelevant to the Residency Obligation requirements calculation. So, the strict answer to your question is, no.
 

armoured

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Feb 1, 2015
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My parents landed on May 29, 2015.
On May 29, 2020 they will be short by 15 days to meet the required 730 days.
Their PR card is valid until Aug 21, 2020.
Would it be Ok for them to meet the 730 days before August 21 and not loose their PR status?
Not sure I fully understand your question. As noted, PR status not strictly linked to card expiry.

The more important question is, are they in Canada now? If so, they should - as much as possible - remain in Canada until certain they are in compliance with the residency obligation, and be cautious about going out of country when uncertain.

The calculation of that may be a bit complicated as the relevant period means older 'in-country' days fall off.

But there are other threads and info on that here, and what steps they may wish to take once fully in compliance about renewing documents etc.

General advice is to renew the PR card only when certain that residency obligation is fully met with some 'buffer.'

Again, expiry of the PR card does not mean that they no longer have permanent resident status.
 
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PaNeumann

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Jan 12, 2020
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Thank you.
Yes, my parents are currently in Canada. Their PR status based on the time that they landed will expire May 29 this year. They will be short by 11 days to meet the 730 days required.
Based on your suggestion they should stay in Canada at least until they meet 730 days taking in consideration the older days that will fall off. Am I understanding this correctly?
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
Thank you.
Yes, my parents are currently in Canada. Their PR status based on the time that they landed will expire May 29 this year. They will be short by 11 days to meet the 730 days required.
Based on your suggestion they should stay in Canada at least until they meet 730 days taking in consideration the older days that will fall off. Am I understanding this correctly?
Yes, apart from one significant thing. Their PR status is unaffected by the cards. They can remain in Canada forever, as Permanent Residents, with expired cards. They just can't fly back to Canada with them.
 

YVR123

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Thank you.
Yes, my parents are currently in Canada. Their PR status based on the time that they landed will expire May 29 this year. They will be short by 11 days to meet the 730 days required.
Based on your suggestion they should stay in Canada at least until they meet 730 days taking in consideration the older days that will fall off. Am I understanding this correctly?
They should stay in Canada and wait till they meet (and have some buffer) RO. Then apply for renew of their PR cards. If they are not in a rush to travel, may be easier to wait for new PR card before they travel out of country.
 
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armoured

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Thank you.
Yes, my parents are currently in Canada. Their PR status based on the time that they landed will expire May 29 this year. They will be short by 11 days to meet the 730 days required.
Based on your suggestion they should stay in Canada at least until they meet 730 days taking in consideration the older days that will fall off. Am I understanding this correctly?
The above two posts cover very well my understanding of the situation (to the best of my knowledge). Stay in country and renew their PR card when feasible, keeping careful track of the days towards the RO.
 

manishdamani271

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May 10, 2013
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Hi @PaNeumann . Sorry for hijacking this thread. But I am in similar situation as your parents were. So as per my understanding when your parents arrived in Canada before May 29, 2020 , they were already short by 15 days to compliance with RO regulation. Do they faced any issue with immigration officer asking about failing RO ?
I did my landing in March 2016. Completed 542 days. Planning to re-enter in Canada with my valid PR card but will be short by 30 days at the time of entering. Hence just wondering to learn your experience.