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[Survivor27]

Yes po yun yung nakalagay sa application questionnaire namin. But we were thinking kasi na since yung tinatanong lang sa email is about explaining why we were solemnized under art 34 yun po muna sagutin namin and we will provide ung affidavit of cohab na binigay po sa amin. Yun po ung understanding namin. will that still probably lead us to misrepresentation po?

Indeed, it is. CEM is already aware of the Philippines' Family Code as mentioned by other members here. Since you already answered No, that you never lived together, The Affidavit of Cohab won't matter anymore.

 

[badpusacat]

Yes po yun yung nakalagay sa application questionnaire namin. But we were thinking kasi na since yung tinatanong lang sa email is about explaining why we were solemnized under art 34 yun po muna sagutin namin and we will provide ung affidavit of cohab na binigay po sa amin. Yun po ung understanding namin. will that still probably lead us to misrepresentation po?

Yes, it could be. Why? Hindi ka dineclare ni hubby as common law when he became a PR.

No he did not declare me as common law. Pwede po ba namin sabihin na ganun na hindi nya po ako dineclare because of personal issues?

You could and then CEM will decide if it is still misrepresentation or not. Hindi po pwede ang mga sagot na "personal issues" lang kase po nagsinungaling/nagkamali na kayo. You are required to prove to CEM kung ano ang totoo at nagsasabi kayo ng totoo. That's the toughest part!

 

[asagalen]

Yes, it could be. Why? Hindi ka dineclare ni hubby as common law when he became a PR.

You could and then CEM will decide if it is still misrepresentation or not. Hindi po pwede ang mga sagot na "personal issues" lang kase po nagsinungaling/nagkamali na kayo. You are required to prove to CEM kung ano ang totoo at nagsasabi kayo ng totoo. That's the toughest part!

tama ka dapat honest nakalagay sa application kac maaprove ka man today ng Permanent residency later on kahit ilang years ka ng PR pag nag ungkat nila tatanggalin nila
ang permanent resident status mo. marami po kac ako nalaman na mga nakikila dito na na ganyan ngyari yong isa nga 8 years ng PR pinauwi pa kac nalaman na nag sinungaling.

 

[Survivor27]

Yun nga rin po yung iniisip namin. That's why were looking for a consultant po kung ano pong way para ma-relate ung both answers po. If ever po sana may kakilala po kayo to recommend na immigration lawyer or consultant?

I know it is and this is already very difficult for you and your spouse. But hiring a consultant will just be a waste of money (for now). I personally suggest that you withdraw na lang the application. Again, I know that this is hard. But imagine it will be harder if you both get charged of misrepresentation? Mas matagal ang ipaghihintay nyo. If you withdraw now, get married and do things the right way, file a new application right after remarrying, then in my personal view, mas mabilis pa siguro yun kesa yung ma-ban. Masama pa baka pati yung spouse mo masilipan yung PR stat nya (hopefully not).

Again, personal advice lang and hoping you won't take this in a negative way.

 

[badpusacat]

I'm sorry to tell you ha. But your statement right here just made your marriage under Article 34 null and void (with the basis of cohabitation).

Cohabitation is a key factor for the marriage under Article 34, and the VO might think you didn't cohabitate because of your explanation and now asking why were you solemnized under it. Please read the whole article and maybe you can get something from there. Maybe there are other subcategories where two people can get married under that article na pasok sa inyo, but I don't know.

...and unfortunately, if they answer "YES" na nag live in sila, that is another problem. Bakit hindi sya dineclare as common law when hubby became PR?

What you need to figure out here is ano ang sagot na mas hindi mabigat ang parusa? Pwede naman kase na irefuse lang ang app na ito pero walang misrepresentation. Mag aapply na lang kayo ulit pag ganun. Ang mahirap kase is mabigyan ng ban.

 

[badpusacat]

I know it is and this is already very difficult for you and your spouse. But hiring a consultant will just be a waste of money (for now). I personally suggest that you withdraw na lang the application. Again, I know that this is hard. But imagine it will be harder if you both get charged of misrepresentation? Mas matagal ang ipaghihintay nyo. If you withdraw now, get married and do things the right way, file a new application right after remarrying, then in my personal view, mas mabilis pa siguro yun kesa yung ma-ban. Masama pa baka pati yung spouse mo masilipan yung PR stat nya (hopefully not).

Again, personal advice lang and hoping you won't take this in a negative way.

I don't think they can withdraw now (not sure) kasi nasa stage na sila na may nakitang mali ang VO. Hinihingian sila ng explanation para dun magdedecide ang VO.

You can answer NO and just pretend na hindi nyo naintindihan at hindi na explain sa inyo ang Article34. Muntik ng mangyari sa amin yan. Luckily, umandar ang kutob ko na something is wrong. Kaya naayos before the wedding.

 

[badpusacat]

If we withdraw the application, will it not affect our future application? Like makikita ba ulit nila ung mga concerns nila during our let's say previous spousal sponsorship? Also if we get re-married, does it mean we file an annullment then marry po ulit?

Yes, makikita nila lahat ng details ng previous application nyo. The reply that they are asking is a make or break situation kaya kailangan talaga sa immigration lawyer (not just consultant, not just a lawyer). Unfortunately, wala din akong kilala.

 

[badpusacat]

I see. My husband has an appointment with an immigration lawyer but in Canada so we will be waiting for the lawyer's best advise na lang before we make a move.. Thank you so much po. I am expecting these replies talaga and i know it can lead do a negative result yet we will still see kung ano pa rin pwedeng advise siguro sa amin.. Thank you again guys...

That's good! The best advice will come from a reputable immigration lawyer. I wish you all the best. Goodluck!

 

[r2rlanes]

I've been reading the entire concern of heykheysei, I just hope everything will be alright... Let us hope and pray that things will get better and we will all reach the top of this process... Good luck to you heykheysei... and good luck to all of us waiting for the right time to be with our loved ones... Really hard to wait but the people in this forum makes it a little lighter, with all your advices and the information you shared and share... you guys rock!

Let us keep each other posted! ;D ;D ;D

 

[Jungjung]

Natanggap ko na ang passport na may stamp na visa at copr. Maraming-maraming salamat sa mga nagmalasakit sa pagtulong sa pagsagot. God Bless and good luck to all!

 

[r2rlanes]

Natanggap ko na ang passport na may stamp na visa at copr. Maraming-maraming salamat sa mga nagmalasakit sa pagtulong sa pagsagot. God Bless and good luck to all!

WOW! Congratulations, it seems like we are having a lot of friends reuniting with their loved ones... I am so happy for all of you and may our VO continue to process all applications as fast as yours... God bless us all!

 

[Engineered_by_God]

Di naman po masyadong red flag zone! Napaisip naman po ako, kung kami nga po LDR since 2012, nagkita lang po kami ng 2015 and 2016 lang. We married after 8 months since his proposal. Okay lang po kaya yun? Pero 5 years muna kaming couple before we got married. Almost 4 years of that, LDR.

2012 kami LDR tapos nagkita kami 2014.. mga ilang oras pagkakita nya sa akin.proposal agad nun 2014. Then 2015 kasal. ayun nasa abu dhabi na passport ko.haha And Dm na sa ecas.pero since 2003 pa kami mag bf gf. mga 9 pages of love story timeline namin..pray lang

 

[queenAce]

Natanggap ko na ang passport na may stamp na visa at copr. Maraming-maraming salamat sa mga nagmalasakit sa pagtulong sa pagsagot. God Bless and good luck to all!

congrats po .magkakasama n din kayo

 

[queenAce]

I know it is and this is already very difficult for you and your spouse. But hiring a consultant will just be a waste of money (for now). I personally suggest that you withdraw na lang the application. Again, I know that this is hard. But imagine it will be harder if you both get charged of misrepresentation? Mas matagal ang ipaghihintay nyo. If you withdraw now, get married and do things the right way, file a new application right after remarrying, then in my personal view, mas mabilis pa siguro yun kesa yung ma-ban. Masama pa baka pati yung spouse mo masilipan yung PR stat nya (hopefully not).

Again, personal advice lang and hoping you won't take this in a negative way.

honestly base dun sa kilala ko halos libi libo ang perang ginamit at pinambayad .nakpanganak ng 2 times umuwi at nagmaternity para makasama ang asawa then iiwan ang baby para bumalik dito .2 bata naiwan doon sa pinas at kinuha lang ung isa kasi start na ng kinder dahil na ban ung asawa nya.misrepresnetation at ban ng 10 yrs yata if im not mistaken kasi diko na siya inaask sa mga ganung bagay at lumipat na ng work.nalaman ko ung 10yrs na banned dun sa pinsan nya na kilala ko din.hindi ko 100% dun sa 10 yr ban dahil nasabi lang sa akin ng pinsan..pero until now nasa pians paring ung guy..kung ako po sa inyo pawalang bisa ang kasal then do it right.withraw na lang ung application.i am not a lawyer or consultant po sinasabi ko lang ung nangyari dun sa kilala ko..dahil pr ang hubby mo at dependant siya ng nagpunta dito and baka mwala pa ang pr status

 

[aprihl23]

Di naman po masyadong red flag zone! Napaisip naman po ako, kung kami nga po LDR since 2012, nagkita lang po kami ng 2015 and 2016 lang. We married after 8 months since his proposal. Okay lang po kaya yun? Pero 5 years muna kaming couple before we got married. Almost 4 years of that, LDR.

Yung isang kakilala ko halos 1 year lang relation nila before sila kinasal (baka wala pa nga, parang ang bilis kase) and nung umuwi sa pinas(first meeting) kinasal na sila agad. Yung application process nila mas mabilis pa sa amin. Bale proof lang nila ay chat convos bago kinasal, at wala din daw silang letters sa isat isa. Swerte.

Sabe ko nga unfair, kase kame ng asawa ko ang tagal naming magkakilala, at 8 years kameng magkarelation bago kinasal. Ang dame din naming travels na magkasama before+after ng wedding. So marame namang kameng proof. Pero mas mabilis parin sa kanila. Depende talaga sa officers na nakahawak ata sa papel.