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Hey everyone,

Has anyone went through the process for a license through the CNO? I have already went through the NNAS process, which came back as comparable. I am actually a Canadian who was trained in the USA. The CNO seemed to accept my education, but asked for proof of passing the NCLEX, police report and i did the jurisprudence exam. They have had all of this information since January, and I am still waiting to hear ANYTHING. Anyone have a general timeline to how long it took to receive a letter from the CNO?
Where did you receive your nursing education? It helps others to know, so that they have an idea of what to expect.
CNO takes forever and a day. Don't count on any timelines. It's unfortunate but true. For a while there, they weren't even answering their phones.
 
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Where did you receive your nursing education? It helps others to know, so that they have an idea of what to expect.
CNO takes forever and a day. Don't count on any timelines. It's unfortunate but true. For a while there, they weren't even answering their phones.

My education was at Drexel University in Philadelphia. NNAS has been done since October. So I paid and applied late October. And I’m still waiting.
 

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My education was at Drexel University in Philadelphia. NNAS has been done since October. So I paid and applied late October. And I’m still waiting.
That's not an uncommon waiting period so don't worry just yet. The problem is that there isn't really any oversight over CNO so they can pretty much do things how they want and take as long as they want. Zero accountability for this sort of thing.
 
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Hey chasinglight. Ok, why is she working as LPN if she did her Bachelors in Jamaica. I know NNAS assesses based on nursing group. Which nursing group would she do the assessment for? Has she started the process yet?
 

Jmarbach

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That's not an uncommon waiting period so don't worry just yet. The problem is that there isn't really any oversight over CNO so they can pretty much do things how they want and take as long as they want. Zero accountability for this sort of thing.
It’s just sad that they are affecting people’s lives and families and they don’t seem to be in any rush.
It’s also ridiculous because my husband is a doctor from the USA and he got his license to work in Ontario in two months. I started the NNAS process in November of 2016. Two months compared to a year and a half.
 
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It’s just sad that they are affecting people’s lives and families and they don’t seem to be in any rush.
It’s also ridiculous because my husband is a doctor from the USA and he got his license to work in Ontario in two months. I started the NNAS process in November of 2016. Two months compared to a year and a half.
Haha yeah tell me about it!
I am also Canadian and got my 4 yr BSN in the Michigan. At a school that was approved by CNO since early 2000's up until NNAS came into play. When I began my nursing program it was approved. My NNAS report said "non-comparable" (13% or something crazy) and I had to do IENCAP and everything. Incredibly stressful to be in a situation where you may have a 4 year degree that you cannot use in your country, which, if you had graduated a year earlier, you could have used. And there was no issue with the education itself--it's not like there was an audit done and it was sub-par. Nope. NNAS, and American company where you pay to have non-nurses assess your education against Canadian standards, was the only thing that had changed/been added. And nobody cared about how wrong that was. Not CNO, not Office of the Fairness Commissioner, nobody. Passed IENCAP with flying colours because my education was of a very high quality and equal to (if not better than) a Canadian nursing education. But passing isn't the point. The stress of finding out that your education is no longer accepted because of a bureaucratic change that was set up to make money for GFNS (who run NNAS), that you may never be able to work in your profession in your own country despite being assured prior to beginning your degree that you would be able to, is unbelievable.

So, at least feel glad they made changes (changes they wont admit had to and were made) before you went through the NNAS process. Not that other people's suffering will make you feel better. But be glad you don't have to prove yourself in a day long exam where you are treated like cattle and barely fed enough to continue the exam, and where people are yelled at during lunch break to speak English only. Terribly embarrassing for you and I as Canadians.
 

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Hi, I am a Filipino who's currently working as an LPN. I'm currently processing my RN assessement for Ontario with NNAS.

I'm just curious as to what's gonna happen, say that, I get a license (either by NCLEx, IENCAP + NCLEx, or bridging) and want tp transfer it to Saskatchewan. Does anyone here know if Ontario requires you to have hours of experience in their province before they transfer your license?

Thanks!
 

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Hi! I'm from the Philippines and preparing my documents for NNAS. I'm also an NCLEX passer. Is it better to add my NCLEX license or leave it out? Would it add points to my nnas? Thank you
 

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Hi! I'm from the Philippines and preparing my documents for NNAS. I'm also an NCLEX passer. Is it better to add my NCLEX license or leave it out? Would it add points to my nnas? Thank you
it won't add points because NNAS only assesses education. but yes do include it!!! include absolutely every single thing. Because NNAS passes your entire file along to the regulatory body for them to review after NNAS issues an Advisory Report. So if you have submitted it to NNAS then it will get passed along as well.
 

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Haha yeah tell me about it!
I am also Canadian and got my 4 yr BSN in the Michigan. At a school that was approved by CNO since early 2000's up until NNAS came into play. When I began my nursing program it was approved. My NNAS report said "non-comparable" (13% or something crazy) and I had to do IENCAP and everything. Incredibly stressful to be in a situation where you may have a 4 year degree that you cannot use in your country, which, if you had graduated a year earlier, you could have used. And there was no issue with the education itself--it's not like there was an audit done and it was sub-par. Nope. NNAS, and American company where you pay to have non-nurses assess your education against Canadian standards, was the only thing that had changed/been added. And nobody cared about how wrong that was. Not CNO, not Office of the Fairness Commissioner, nobody. Passed IENCAP with flying colours because my education was of a very high quality and equal to (if not better than) a Canadian nursing education. But passing isn't the point. The stress of finding out that your education is no longer accepted because of a bureaucratic change that was set up to make money for GFNS (who run NNAS), that you may never be able to work in your profession in your own country despite being assured prior to beginning your degree that you would be able to, is unbelievable.

So, at least feel glad they made changes (changes they wont admit had to and were made) before you went through the NNAS process. Not that other people's suffering will make you feel better. But be glad you don't have to prove yourself in a day long exam where you are treated like cattle and barely fed enough to continue the exam, and where people are yelled at during lunch break to speak English only. Terribly embarrassing for you and I as Canadians.
Can’t this be rectified by a class action lawsuit?
 

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Can’t this be rectified by a class action lawsuit?
But what would be the crime?
Office of the Fairness Commissioner doesn't care. I've come to realize they are a sort of "store front" to a body overseeing licensing in Ontario but they don't actually do anything. Their mandate is to ensure that "regulated professions in Ontario have registration practices that are transparent, objective, impartial and fair". Haha! They used to have "timely" in their mandate but they took it out, surprise surprise. And there is no recourse for those of us who were put through hell. The more I think about it the more I wonder if the whole system is there to keep immigrants out of the professions. And US educated Canadians got caught up in this disgusting practice.
 
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Will it be 4yrs
Well that's quite a mesh... I have researched few of the following.

York University - 20 month program which already have a long waited list & not offering admission on their website. It appears to be the only Nursing Program specifically for IEN

Reyorsn University - 2 year full time Nursing (BScN) > Post Diploma (https://www.ryerson.ca/programs/undergraduate/nursing-post-diploma/). But Internationally Educated Nurses who have graduated from George Brown’s Academic Pathway for Internationally Educated Nurses (IEN) Graduate Certificate is prerequisite

Over all its going to be minimum 3 years of schooling