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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Starting a new thread for all those who intend or have received their AoR in May 2019, or anticipate filing their application in May 2019.

Sharing some useful info here:

Visa Office


There has been an obsession of finding which visa office the application is at. Many threads on this forum start with explaining how to find your visa office. Let's get to the crux of it. Finding the visa office was very relevant pre- express entry. Even after the introduction of express entry in 2015, the same practice was followed which usually was for the paper based application, but that is no longer the case. Earlier all application followed the following trajectory:

Central Intake Office - Case Processing Centre - Local Visa Office

However, this has radically changed and for all express entry, all application follow the following:

1. Central Intake Office -
The R10 (completeness check) is done at the Central Intake Office for all classes (FSW / PNP / CEC). Now even the criminality and medicals are done at CIO.

2. Case Processing Centre - There are 4 case processing offices of IRCC, which are as follows:

Sydney, Nova Scotia - deals with the following:
  • provincial Nominee Program (PNP) – Non-Express Entry applications
  • Centralized Intake Office – Immigrant Investor Program (IIP)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Quebec Skilled Workers (QSW)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Start Up Business Class
  • Centralized Intake Office – Self Employed (SE)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Quebec Business Class (QBC)
  • Centralized Intake Office – Atlantic Immigration Pilot Program
Now has started doing eligibility for EE applications in limited numbers.

Vegreville, Alberta
Deals with Specialized permanent resident application. Those following in the category of Medical needs, work permits, work permits for spouses, study permits, co-op permits. EE applications which have a downgraded category.

This is the place where you EE application will land if any of the members in the application have a medical condition. This is where determinations of refusal, monitoring etc are made.

Now has started doing eligibility for EE applications in limited numbers.

Mississauga, Ontario
Only deals with family class PR applications.
No EE applications are dealt here so far.

Ottawa, Ontario
This is the most important processing office for all EE, and it is also the Local Visa Office for in-land applicants and those applying from USA.

This is based on the most recent information. IRCC has officers across Canada and some temporary offices that are used to process application based on workload distribution.

Local Visa Office - This is the office where you will be asked to submit your passport after your application has been approved. Usually the consulate in your home country.

These days all application after starting at CIO (where R10 is met), either start the processing of eligibility at CIO itself, or move to CPC (wither Ottawa, Sydney, or Vegreville), or are straight sent to the LVO. The trend has been to complete most of the processing between CIO and CPC. Since the applications are electronically stored, there is no movement of physical files.

SUGGESTION - There is no point sending emails to ask which VO your application is at, as that process is moot since the eligibility can even start at CIO. So save yourself some time and efforts and also save the human resources of IRCC and stop sending emails. Even if you know which VO your application is at, it means nothing. Most applications which are processed within weeks and get PPR, are processed at CIO, and this is a much faster way.

A few applications will see eligibility passed, and then go to not started when the application is sent to the LVO. This is because the final review is done at the LVO, and the local agent may decide to conduct additional review, or identification before the eligibility is finally set to PASSED.



Tracking your application

Unfortunately the only thing that you see is your MyCIC account. There has been a growing trend of speculation where change of status on MyCIC has been attributed to eligibility being passed, etc. The whole NA, IP IP2 is speculation and has no bearing on determining which stage your application is at. While any change of status is a good sign, but merely relying on NA and IP is not the correct way.

Most applicants will find it irrelevant, as their applications will be processed and approved within the first 3-4 months. It is those who wait for more than 4 months, where things go crazy as they keep relying on NA, IP etc, and see no movement or progress. Many other are stuck on so called IP2, and the PPR never seems to come.

So put these speculative theories to rest. As per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, regulations and the ministeral instructions every application goes through the following stages:

R10 (Completeness check)
Medicals
Criminality
A11.2 Eligibility (The most important stage)
Security


To read more on each stage click here. While most applicants will not need to go this deep, but for those who have concerns about the application or it is taking too long should see which stage they are at. Also, the only way to determine the stage is by GCMS notes. To read more on GCMS notes, see the thread here.

ECAS (Electronic Client Application Status) -

This was the most important tool pre EE to track an application and provided much more in-depth status than what MyCIC does. However, after the IRCC moved to the Global Case Management System (AKA GCMS) applications are no longer linked to ECAS.

So there is no point going there and checking.

Letter of Explanation -
As the name suggests, the LoE is exact what it sounds like. It is not an idea for the documents and you do not have to explain each document you are submitting in your application.

The simple rules to follow for LoE -

  • Should be 1-2 pages in length. If you cannot explain it in 1-2 pages, it is probably not worth it.
  • Only use LoE to explain an issue. Eg. you could not obtain a reference letter on letterhead, could not meet PoF 6 months avg balance, seeking exemption or extension from PCC, or to explain something in your application which is not clear.
  • IRCC Agents do read LoE, but if its too long and not to the point, it loses its importance.
  • You DO NOT need an index for your documents. There are placeholders for the documents just put each document there and when it is stored on the IRCC system it is names and stored in an organized way.


SOME USEFUL LINKS:

**Guide to Landing and Setteling** - https://goo.gl/8vQzcd
**Proof of Funds** - https://goo.gl/mPejMN
**Medicals** - https://goo.gl/Xpmj5e
**Age and EE** - https://goo.gl/u8bqAU
**Stages of EE Application ** - https://goo.gl/AmdtgR
**GCMS Notes** - https://goo.gl/Jhk1Un
**Keep GCMS Notes Safe** - https://goo.gl/97J7AT
**Add Spouse to app** - https://goo.gl/ZgRP6C
**PNP and its obligations** - https://goo.gl/XUva1e

All the best!!


THESE ARE MY VIEWS AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THESE. IF YOU HAVE CONTRARY VIEWS, JUST IGNORE IT AND DO WHAT YOUR CONSULTANT ASKED YOU, OR WHAT YOU DEEM FIT.
 

jsehgal

Newbie
Feb 18, 2019
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Thanks LegalFalcon for creating this thread.Very informative.
Recieved ITA on 3rd April and planning to submit before Next week.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
8,680
4,280
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Thanks LegalFalcon for creating this thread.Very informative.
Recieved ITA on 3rd April and planning to submit before Next week.
All the best!
 

jsehgal

Newbie
Feb 18, 2019
7
2
@legalfalcon .. would appreciate your guidance on the below query regarding work experience letter.

I have worked with 4 companies(over 10 years of work experience) ,have mentioned the experience of 3 since that matches with my current NOC. I have the work experience letters in the format suggested by CIC by my last 2 employers but the first one where I held 2 roles has denied over emails to share the work experience in the said format and has given me general work experience letters.
Should I just upload those and attach the emails denying the letters in LOE along with an explanation or should I ask a colleague to share an email confirming my roles and responsibilities (as my previous manager has also left the organisation).It has been 5+ years since I quit this job.
 
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JamesRodriguez

Hero Member
Mar 8, 2019
395
77
30
New Delhi,India
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2274 (Engineer officers ,Water Transport)
App. Filed.......
01-May-2019
Nomination.....
FSW Outland
AOR Received.
28-June-2019
IELTS Request
21-Feb-2019
Med's Done....
26-July-2019
Passport Req..
09-January-2020
VISA ISSUED...
24-January-2020
@legalfalcon I have done a training before my license from Estonia,which I have added in my experience .I got ITA yesterday .

My contract letter has training salary mentioned as training allowance 700 dollars per month.

I have salary slips too.

Please tell is it ok to upload the doc with salary mentioned as training allowance .
 
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Wolfpmd3

Hero Member
Apr 26, 2015
722
79
Canada
Category........
CEC
NOC Code......
1254
Job Offer........
Yes
App. Filed.......
02-05-2019
Doc's Request.
18-06-2019 (RCMP)
Nomination.....
No
AOR Received.
02-05-2019
File Transfer...
02-05-2019
Med's Done....
22-02-2019
Interview........
Not Requested
ITA: 01-05-2019
Applied: 02-05-2019
Documents Transmitted: 02-05-2019
AOR: 02-05-2019
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
8,680
4,280
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
8,680
4,280
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon I have done a training before my license from Estonia,which I have added in my experience .I got ITA yesterday .

My contract letter has training salary mentioned as training allowance 700 dollars per month.

I have salary slips too.

Please tell is it ok to upload the doc with salary mentioned as training allowance .
If you worked along with your education, that is permitted can can be counted towards your work ex for CRS.

So your salary as Training allowance is fine.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
8,680
4,280
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon .. would appreciate your guidance on the below query regarding work experience letter.

I have worked with 4 companies(over 10 years of work experience) ,have mentioned the experience of 3 since that matches with my current NOC. I have the work experience letters in the format suggested by CIC by my last 2 employers but the first one where I held 2 roles has denied over emails to share the work experience in the said format and has given me general work experience letters.
Should I just upload those and attach the emails denying the letters in LOE along with an explanation or should I ask a colleague to share an email confirming my roles and responsibilities (as my previous manager has also left the organisation).It has been 5+ years since I quit this job.
You should get a letter from a colleague (former or current), in the IRCC format on a plain paper , which you can get notarized.

When you upload this, also upload a LoE explaining why the letter was not available from the employer and attach the emails and generic work experience letters in support of it.