marriage for a visa

[pinklady]

Disagree

I only complain about those that abuse the system. Those that have lived here for 20 years and can't speak english (or french!). That is what I complain about.

Thoughts?

 

[Baloo]

Disagree

I only complain about those that abuse the system. Those that have lived here for 20 years and can't speak english (or french!). That is what I complain about.

Thoughts?

That was what I was doing at the time, moaning about those that abuse the system.

 

[pinklady]

Something has to change, but I don't think it will.

 

[newtone]

Well if he really is marrying for the convenience factor..............Make sure she takes life insurance and names him the beneficiary

 

[doctorkb]

Something has to change, but it has to be radical.

One thought that comes to mind (and I don't remember the source, sorry) is this:

"For two nations that are comprised almost entirely of immigrants, the United States and Canada have awfully closed borders when it comes to accepting new ones."

I say we fling wide the gates this way:

You are welcome to come to Canada and start work on your first day, providing:
1. you have no criminal record (or have received appropriate rehabilitation), and aren't a security threat to Canada or her allies.

2. you will put on deposit with the Federal Government the cost of a plane ticket to your home nation. This will be returned to you on the earliest of two occurrences: 1. when you gain citizenship; 2. when you choose to seek social assistance, it will be in the form of a plane ticket.

3. you understand that in hiring processes, Canadian citizens will have "first dibs" -- that is, if you and a Canadian apply for the same job and you have similar qualifications, the employer must hire the Canadian.

4. you will be eligible to apply for citizenship after 5 years. Processing time for applications will be reduced to 30-60 days. You must show that you have been a CONTRIBUTING member of society for that period -- you must pass an official language test and provide records demonstrating your financial contribution (i.e. taxes). If you don't have these completed, you'll be put on "probation" for 5 years. If, after 10 years of living here, you still cannot complete this requirement, you will be returned to your country of origin.

Sound fair?

 

[nylalisa]

I agree, the system has to change, right now CIC thinks the solution is to be harder on the whole program. Which I agree they need to screen and these days anything is possible with money (ie to make a marriage look real) but it comes down to a system that is too lax and people who have ruined the system for other people.

For instance, my husband comes from Punjab, an area with one of the highest rates of MOCs, so because of that for the people who do have genuine relationships, they have to jump through hoops to prove something to someone who doesnt know them.

I guess thats why I got uptight when I saw this OPs post because it is exactly what is causing backlogs at VOs and trouble for the genuine people. Like another poster said: I feel sorry for the people in Manila who will be held up because of this persons decisions.

 

[serenifly]

hi everyone. i am writing for my cousin. he is 21 years old. and her aunt in Canada proposed that he my cousin, marry her friend who is 57 years old. so, my 21 year old cousin and the 57 year old who is never married, will get married here in our country, and apply for a spousal sponsorship. marriage will happen this march this year.

what are your thoughts on this? im trying to get some perspective so as i could help him decide, but im on the NO side of this matter. ]

do 100% of the spousal sponsorship are approved? does this age difference matter? will the embassy ever suspect that it was just a marriage for the visa?

Good luck proving the relationship is 'genuine'

pisses me off that I have to wait 2 years to get approved with my husband and this cr@p goes on

 

[canda]

So not cool, your cousin and this 57 year old are the people that make it difficult for the people who are truly in love and want to be together, your cousin should be embarrased.
How rude

 

[newtone]

Don't worry our Canadian IO will make it impossible for this person to come to Canada I know couple of genuine cases where the wife sponsored husband they went through every detail of their relationship some of the questions they asked were really personal and quite frankly embaressing. Its been 3 years and they still havent been able to be together. I think you cousin has a better chance of taking a boat from pakistan and coming to Canada, atleast that way he can apply on Humanitarian and Compassionate grounds since he sailed the 7 seas to be in Canada. He might even make it to the Guinness record books I think its worth thinking about....seriously

 

[angelbrat]

I heard this the other day:

New immigrants are like ex-smokers..... who complain about smokers.

While new immigrants complain about those that follow them.

Agree or disagree?

Nope.....I am totally routing for all the genuine applicants, no matter what category they are applying. I am too new a PR to forget the long and stressful process to abandon those going through it right now.

What disgusts me, is the totally abuse of the system by a minority. I am also freaked out somewhat, by the 'yellow brick road' perception of Canada by many would be immigrants, then their totally disbelief when they arrive, that the million dollar a year job does not fall into their arms.

 

[Baloo]

Like you I know that "Canada the dream" is something that is not real.

Many of those starting out on the path would do well to realize it.

Of course is Canada not all bad, but making the change is far from easy.