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[blueboom]

I know how that feels. I haven't seen my wife in over a year and it gets very lonely at times.

And to be fair, we've been very happy with our lawyer up until now, (he's the one who sponsors this board actually), but the guy who's handled our case since my wife got sponsorship approval has left a lot to be desired.

I understand. I love our representative, but his assistant infuriates me sometimes. I can't tell if she's incompetent or underpaid.

 

[goldenkagi]

Hey guys, I have a story to tell. My husband met this girl at their company's training, and she opened up a bit after finding out that my husband was sponsoring me. Long story short, she's sponsoring an Iranian as a spouse to come to Canada. They are a fake couple, and she's going to be paid 50,000 CAD once he gets his PR. Apparently he went in for an interview and the VO seemed pleased. I sooooo want to report this to CIC but we don't have any evidence, not even her full name. So frustrating!

 

[computergeek]

And to be fair, we've been very happy with our lawyer up until now, (he's the one who sponsors this board actually), but the guy who's handled our case since my wife got sponsorship approval has left a lot to be desired.

If you aren't happy, it's important to communicate that to your lawyer. He may not be aware of what's going on and if you don't explain to him that you are unhappy and WHY you are unhappy, he can't fix it.

 

[amikety]

Hey guys, I have a story to tell. My husband met this girl at their company's training, and she opened up a bit after finding out that my husband was sponsoring me. Long story short, she's sponsoring an Iranian as a spouse to come to Canada. They are a fake couple, and she's going to be paid 50,000 CAD once he gets his PR. Apparently he went in for an interview and the VO seemed pleased. I sooooo want to report this to CIC but we don't have any evidence, not even her full name. So frustrating!

His reply should've been "50K won't repay welfare for those three years he's abusing it."

Blink blink.

I would've totally weaseled into getting her information. Exchanged business cards or something. But I'm evil.

I suspect getting into Canada as a fake PR is easier than people think as long as you're careful.

 

[computergeek]

I suspect getting into Canada as a fake PR is easier than people think as long as you're careful.

I've never found anything that indicates CIC does any post-decision analysis to determine the accuracy of their own work. This would apply to both refusals as well as approvals - follow-up after 24 months to see if the couple are still together, for example, and compare that to the 24 month relationship retention rate of couples inside Canada.

I remember when they announced the 2 year conditional PR last October reading their numbers (8% refusal inland, 17% refusal outland, 16% overall) and the assumption they made that these were ALL marriages of convenience. I know in at least one case for inland refusal, the Canadian sponsor was moving to the spouse's country.

 

[JimM]

If you aren't happy, it's important to communicate that to your lawyer. He may not be aware of what's going on and if you don't explain to him that you are unhappy and WHY you are unhappy, he can't fix it.

I was thinking that, but I'm not sure I want to risk making an enemy of the guy handling my case. At this point I should only have to deal with him to tell him I've received my COPR, but still... I'm thinking it's easier to tell them after I'm done the process.

 

[computergeek]

I was thinking that, but I'm not sure I want to risk making an enemy of the guy handling my case. At this point I should only have to deal with him to tell him I've received my COPR, but still... I'm thinking it's easier to tell them after I'm done the process.

It doesn't pay for an attorney to do anything wrong with your case - that's a terrific way for someone in that position to get into a lot of trouble. Last year at one particularly stressful point Justice Canada was pressuring my own attorney to withdraw. I had to do a bit of research, but an attorney cannot generally "fire" a client as it turns out without permission of the court and/or the client. In the end it was actually beneficial as it allowed us to discuss the issues and come to a solid end-game strategy.

I agree it doesn't help to attack someone, but if you say "I'm disappointed in the work I've been receiving of late and here's why" it can lead to a positive resolution. But if you're almost done I can understand the desire not to "rock the boat".

A true professional would listen to your feedback and respond to it. That doesn't mean your attorney will agree - she or he might point out things you hadn't considered for example - but only the most unprofessional would use that as an excuse to retaliate or sabotage your case (that's grounds for disbarment and professional misconduct liability - no case is worth risking that.)

No matter what you decide, good luck wrapping up your "adventure".

 

[JimM]

I've never found anything that indicates CIC does any post-decision analysis to determine the accuracy of their own work. This would apply to both refusals as well as approvals - follow-up after 24 months to see if the couple are still together, for example, and compare that to the 24 month relationship retention rate of couples inside Canada.

I remember when they announced the 2 year conditional PR last October reading their numbers (8% refusal inland, 17% refusal outland, 16% overall) and the assumption they made that these were ALL marriages of convenience. I know in at least one case for inland refusal, the Canadian sponsor was moving to the spouse's country.

That's a good idea but they would need to come up with a formula to adjust for factors that would place strain on a couple where immigration is involved. Things like culture shock or the difficulty any long distance/on line relationship will have going to being together 24/7.

 

[parker24]

Hey guys, I have a story to tell. My husband met this girl at their company's training, and she opened up a bit after finding out that my husband was sponsoring me. Long story short, she's sponsoring an Iranian as a spouse to come to Canada. They are a fake couple, and she's going to be paid 50,000 CAD once he gets his PR. Apparently he went in for an interview and the VO seemed pleased. I sooooo want to report this to CIC but we don't have any evidence, not even her full name. So frustrating!

I have a mindful of curse words going towards that couple right now!!

 

[JimM]

It doesn't pay for an attorney to do anything wrong with your case - that's a terrific way for someone in that position to get into a lot of trouble. Last year at one particularly stressful point Justice Canada was pressuring my own attorney to withdraw. I had to do a bit of research, but an attorney cannot generally "fire" a client as it turns out without permission of the court and/or the client. In the end it was actually beneficial as it allowed us to discuss the issues and come to a solid end-game strategy.

I agree it doesn't help to attack someone, but if you say "I'm disappointed in the work I've been receiving of late and here's why" it can lead to a positive resolution. But if you're almost done I can understand the desire not to "rock the boat".

A true professional would listen to your feedback and respond to it. That doesn't mean your attorney will agree - she or he might point out things you hadn't considered for example - but only the most unprofessional would use that as an excuse to retaliate or sabotage your case (that's grounds for disbarment and professional misconduct liability - no case is worth risking that.)

No matter what you decide, good luck wrapping up your "adventure".

I'm sure the people running the firm are quite professional, and everyone else I've dealt with has been excellent at their job. Just this last case manager has been a problem. I may just drop them a line after all

 

[amikety]

That's a good idea but they would need to come up with a formula to adjust for factors that would place strain on a couple where immigration is involved. Things like culture shock or the difficulty any long distance/on line relationship will have going to being together 24/7.

I think a lot of people underestimate that change. Especially when one spouse is ready to be together IRL and the other is still plugged in to the computer. Plus dealing with someone that leaves dirty socks on the floor or cleans the sink at least once a day everyday no matter how much her husband makes fun of her....... >.>

 

[blueboom]

Hey guys, I have a story to tell. My husband met this girl at their company's training, and she opened up a bit after finding out that my husband was sponsoring me. Long story short, she's sponsoring an Iranian as a spouse to come to Canada. They are a fake couple, and she's going to be paid 50,000 CAD once he gets his PR. Apparently he went in for an interview and the VO seemed pleased. I sooooo want to report this to CIC but we don't have any evidence, not even her full name. So frustrating!

fuck those assholes.

 

[computergeek]

I think a lot of people underestimate that change. Especially when one spouse is ready to be together IRL and the other is still plugged in to the computer. Plus dealing with someone that leaves dirty socks on the floor or cleans the sink at least once a day everyday no matter how much her husband makes fun of her.......

I was fortunate in being able to live with my spouse during the process. I suspect had I been forced to live apart I'd likely have gone insane. Or rather more insane than I did.

I cannot fathom the dehumanization training necessary to make the people within CIC think that expecting a 24-30 month separation is reasonable to any human, as is the case with some visa offices. I suspect most of them know it's not and thus those that have even an inkling of empathy find another line of work, thus leaving behind the people who could be prison guards in the for-profit penal system, except for lacking the necessary human compassion for the job.

 

[Steph C]

Hey guys, I have a story to tell. My husband met this girl at their company's training, and she opened up a bit after finding out that my husband was sponsoring me. Long story short, she's sponsoring an Iranian as a spouse to come to Canada. They are a fake couple, and she's going to be paid 50,000 CAD once he gets his PR. Apparently he went in for an interview and the VO seemed pleased. I sooooo want to report this to CIC but we don't have any evidence, not even her full name. So frustrating!

That girl is an idiot for two reasons - one, she agreed to that, and two, she blabbed to somebody she didn't even know! I'll bet she blabbed to others who know her full name.. loose lips sink ships :

 

[blueboom]

That girl is an idiot for two reasons - one, she agreed to that, and two, she blabbed to somebody she didn't even know! I'll bet she blabbed to others who know her full name.. loose lips sink ships :

I'm taking comfort in the fact that she probably blabbed to someone who will report them.