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I would like to get some opinions on my situation and if my time living with my common-law partner in the UK counts towards my residency obligation (RO).

I’m aware there have been some cases in recent years where PRs have had their appeals rejected when trying to use the ‘accompanying a Canadian citizen spouse/common-law' clause to count towards their RO. The main sticking point seems to be around the definition of accompanying.

My situation:

I’ve been together with my common law Canadian citizen partner since 2017, we have lived together since 2018 in UK. She has dual British (descent) and Canadian (birth) citizenship. She has been living in the UK since 2005. We have a son together who is also a dual British (birth)/Canadian (descent) citizen. We own a property together (primary residency) in the UK. We both have family living in Canada.

She sponsored my PR application. I became a PR in Dec 2022, completed a soft landing and returned home to the UK with my common law partner. Our relationship was validated as part of the PR application.

In the last three years we have been visiting different places in Canada trying to work out where we would live and applying for jobs. Unfortunately we haven’t been able to secure work applying from the UK so haven't made the move over.

We have recently been given the opportunity to live with family for minimal costs so we are looking at taking the plunge and moving next May (2026).

Does my case seem like a valid use of the ‘accompanying Canadian common-law partner abroad’ to count towards my RO?

Without this, I will be short 2-3 months on my RO (Probably spent around 8 weeks in Canada since becoming a PR) if we arrive in May 2026. Unsure what will happen to me if that is the case!
 
I would like to get some opinions on my situation and if my time living with my common-law partner in the UK counts towards my residency obligation (RO).

I’m aware there have been some cases in recent years where PRs have had their appeals rejected when trying to use the ‘accompanying a Canadian citizen spouse/common-law' clause to count towards their RO. The main sticking point seems to be around the definition of accompanying.

My situation:

I’ve been together with my common law Canadian citizen partner since 2017, we have lived together since 2018 in UK. She has dual British (descent) and Canadian (birth) citizenship. She has been living in the UK since 2005. We have a son together who is also a dual British (birth)/Canadian (descent) citizen. We own a property together (primary residency) in the UK. We both have family living in Canada.

She sponsored my PR application. I became a PR in Dec 2022, completed a soft landing and returned home to the UK with my common law partner. Our relationship was validated as part of the PR application.

In the last three years we have been visiting different places in Canada trying to work out where we would live and applying for jobs. Unfortunately we haven’t been able to secure work applying from the UK so haven't made the move over.

We have recently been given the opportunity to live with family for minimal costs so we are looking at taking the plunge and moving next May (2026).

Does my case seem like a valid use of the ‘accompanying Canadian common-law partner abroad’ to count towards my RO?

Without this, I will be short 2-3 months on my RO (Probably spent around 8 weeks in Canada since becoming a PR) if we arrive in May 2026. Unsure what will happen to me if that is the case!

You never actually settled in Canada with your partner so you didn’t actually accompany them abroad. Wouldn’t risk trying to count time you spent together before actually settling in Canada towards RO.
 
You never actually settled in Canada with your partner so you didn’t actually accompany them abroad. Wouldn’t risk trying to count time you spent together before actually settling in Canada towards RO.
Okay, so what is the likely scenario if I turn up in May? I get let into the country but I get referred to have my case reviewed with possibility of PR being revoked?
 
Okay, so what is the likely scenario if I turn up in May? I get let into the country but I get referred to have my case reviewed with possibility of PR being revoked?
You will not get it revoked as your PR card doesn't expire until 2027. You are entering Canada before expiry.
 
Without this, I will be short 2-3 months on my RO (Probably spent around 8 weeks in Canada since becoming a PR) if we arrive in May 2026. Unsure what will happen to me if that is the case!
You will be let in; there is a (small) chance they'll 'write you up' for being out of compliance and that would mean that (what I'd describe as*) them 'starting' the process of revoking your PR status. You'd get a chance to appeal, etc. And I do mean a small chance, but I can't quantify. More likely is they'd say nothing or perhaps give you a verbal warning.

It would be better if you could arrive earlier to settle. If you travel a lot subsequently, you'd be at more risk. And you'll likely have a period where you can't renew your PR card (inconvenient if you have to travel, but if you're in Canada without a valid PR card, the overall impact is approximately zero). Only you can decide if critical.

* Some pedants have an issue with my use of 'starting' the process here. Don't really understand why, nor care enough. It is the point at which revocation begins (without the write-up, it doesn't really start). Not enough time to argue with tedious, verbose, humourless pendants about such issues.
 
Thanks everyone for the replies. Very helpful information, I understand my position better now.

Looked at the time I've been in Canada since Dec 2022 and assuming we move mid May 2026, I'll be short around 95 days on the RO. PR card doesn't expire until March 2028.
 
Thanks everyone for the replies. Very helpful information, I understand my position better now.

Looked at the time I've been in Canada since Dec 2022 and assuming we move mid May 2026, I'll be short around 95 days on the RO. PR card doesn't expire until March 2028.
So just don't renew until meet RO.
 
Thanks everyone for the replies. Very helpful information, I understand my position better now.

Looked at the time I've been in Canada since Dec 2022 and assuming we move mid May 2026, I'll be short around 95 days on the RO. PR card doesn't expire until March 2028.
Do the arithmetic carefully and correctly - here's the simplest restatement of the RO rules (IMO):
-Calculate the number of days OUTSIDE Canada in the last five years (from eg the day you plan to return), discarding any days before you became a PR. If that number is MORE than 1095, you are (will be) out of compliance.

Amendment to my comments above: when you return, be sure to mention that you have been living with a Canadian citizen in the UK. Do they have to accept your statement as meeting the (somewhat obscure) bit about accompanying and how that's defined? No.

But chances are quite high that they won't want to bother with the paperwork and all that, as you are only a few months out of compliance AND with a citizen-spouse who could sponsor you later anyway.

When you do get to point where card is expiring: I'd still recommend wiating until in compliance, providing the info for the accompanying a citizen-stuff is just going to delay it more than you'd delay by waiting a few months.
 
I’m aware there have been some cases in recent years where PRs have had their appeals rejected when trying to use the ‘accompanying a Canadian citizen spouse/common-law' clause to count towards their RO. The main sticking point seems to be around the definition of accompanying.

My situation:

. . .

Without this, I will be short 2-3 months on my RO (Probably spent around 8 weeks in Canada since becoming a PR) if we arrive in May 2026. Unsure what will happen to me if that is the case!

Overall, in cases that stray outside the standard boundaries and involve complicated issues, particularly those that involve a RO breach, no one here can reliably quantify the odds. There are, however, numerous factors known to influence the odds. Like in RO breach cases, the bigger the breach the greater the risk. How these things go depends on the particular details in the individual case. The one for sure safe approach is to spend enough days in Canada to comply with the RO based on those days. For couples living outside Canada during the process of the citizen sponsoring the Foreign National, the for sure approach is to follow through with the plan to relocate to Canada soon enough after getting PR status to avoid any suspicion of misrepresentation as to intent and the plan.

Otherwise, the sooner you come to Canada to stay the better the odds all goes smoothly, no inadmissibility proceedings.

In particular . . .

Re RO credit for days outside Canada accompanying a Canadian citizen spouse/partner:

This is actually a big and complicated subject. It is discussed at length and in-depth in a topic I started more than 7 years ago and where just a year ago I posted this:
It is worth noting that the actual application of the law, policies, practices, and rules, can and does vary depending on numerous factors which can influence how strictly officials approach a particular individual case. This includes what might be characterized equity factors, what is fair. This includes consideration of the facts and the law and the equities in the context of the general purpose for granting PR status.

Probably no need, not worth your time, to wrestle much with all that. It appears you understand the basics sufficient to guide your decision-making. The technicalities are not likely to have much influence in that decision-making. (And the technicalities regarding this credit are plagued by various inconsistent interpretations and uneven application, so not a good forecast guide.)

There may be enough risk of not getting the credit to warrant avoiding much more delay than necessary in coming to Canada. But as has been discussed already, your odds of being OK are probably quite good and the worst case scenario (an unlikely scenario) is having to be sponsored again if per chance you were to lose PR status due to a RO breach.

In terms of the risks re the accompanying credit in particular, @canuck references an important factor, that you were not settled together in Canada before moving abroad but, rather, were settled outside Canada, so an officer with a strict approach could conclude you did not accompany one another in going outside Canada and deny RO credit for days outside Canada together. The risk of that is very difficult to assess. The fact that your partner sponsored you and that you have been living together as a family, including children, carries considerable weight in your favour. (Most of the known, actual cases in which couples living together have been denied the accompanying credit, involve egregious facts, and typically what at least appears to be gaming the system if not blatant abuse.)

As I said about this subject more than seven years ago, in regards to situations in which qualifying for the credit might be challenged at a PoE:
My strong impression is that if the PR is traveling with the Canadian-citizen-spouse, that is if they are accompanying each other on the trip and upon arriving at the Canadian PoE, that should have a positive impact on how it goes at the PoE. A lot, lot easier to assert entitlement for the credit, based on accompanying a citizen-spouse, when the PR is in fact accompanying or being accompanied by the citizen-spouse.

That has not changed much so far as we can discern. That is about simply traveling together when coming to Canada.

Moreover, it is also still largely true, as far as has been seen, that

. . . generally CBSA and IRCC will be liberal if not overtly lenient toward PRs with family and significant ongoing ties in Canada. It is NOT as if CBSA or IRCC will go out of the way to find reason to take away such a PR's status. Actually the scales tend to tip a lot in favour of PRs with family and other ties in Canada.

Hard to say, in contrast, how much negative credibility influence there could be (in the eye of a not-so-friendly CBSA officer) based on a potential perception that the representations made in the sponsored PR application, regarding having a plan and the intent to move to Canada when you got PR status (which was necessary to qualify for a grant of PR status when the sponsor is not living in Canada), were less than honest. Of course you undoubtedly have good defenses rebutting any allegation of misrepresentations as to the plan to move here upon being granted PR status, since stuff happens, circumstances change, plans change, expectations fall through requiring adaptation, all sorts of real life stuff, and in contrast settling in Canada is still your real plan (as I understand this based on your posts), just taking a bit long to get it done. But being on defense is less than ideal, particularly since credibility can loom large even if the examining officer does not explicitly allege deception or misrepresentation. So it is a factor, one more factor among many.

So I understand @canuck's further comment
Wouldn’t risk trying to count time you spent together before actually settling in Canada towards RO.
in terms of recognizing there is some risk in delaying the trip to Canada (to stay).

But that does not mean you shouldn't claim the credit. I do not mean to speak for what @canuck78's thinking on this is, but will say that to the extent there is a risk you do not get this credit, that is one of many things to consider in your decision-making, in balancing competing factors, in determining when to make the move.

Otherwise, if and when your RO compliance is being examined, such as in a Secondary examination at the Port-of-Entry (PoE), or attendant a PR card application, claim the credit.

Worst Case Scenario:

Don't overlook the platitudes, like "hope for the best, plan for the worst," or simply be prepared to deal with what could happen.

In regards to that, the worst case scenario, which is unlikely if you get here while only three or so months in breach of the RO (if you are in breach because credit for accompanying citizen partner is not allowed), is (1) being issued a Removal Order at the PoE (you would still be allowed to enter Canada and still be a PR as long as you have the right of appeal and pending an appeal), (2) losing the appeal, and (3) having to be sponsored again. Again, that seems rather unlikely even if per chance you were issued a Removal Order upon arrival here, particularly if you obtain help from a lawyer in prosecuting the appeal and you stay and settle here while the appeal is pending. This does not apply equally across the board for all PRs issued a Removal Order based on being inadmissible for a RO breach, no where near equally. Family ties in Canada in conjunction with demonstrating real intent to settle and stay in Canada, and a colorable argument for the accompanying partner credit, and the relatively small breach of the RO, are among factors that should carry considerable weight in the H&C analysis and favour allowing you to keep PR status even if the accompanying credit is denied.

In contrast, another reason to be optimistic about getting accompanying RO credit is that all but a very few of the known cases, in which a PR living with a citizen partner/spouse ("ordinarily residing" with in IRCC lingo) has been denied accompanying RO credit, arose in regards to applications for a PR Travel Document. Not PoE examinations. Of course there is the outside risk of running into a real (pick an epithet), one of CBSA's most aggressively strict officers, but a Removal Order will not be issued upon arrival here unless two CBSA officers acting independently conclude you are in breach, and even if both conclude you are in breach (even if both conclude you do not get the accompanying RO credit), before a Removal Order can be issued you still get to make the case you should be allowed to keep PR for H&C reasons (for you perhaps emphasizing difficulty in finding employment slowing your return, and family ties, and intent to settle in Canada, and you have not breached the RO by a lot).

All that caution-side stuff aside, if you are traveling as a family it is hard to imagine even being questioned about RO compliance, and even if you are questioned, just referring to having been living with your partner who is a Canadian citizen, and now you are all coming to Canada to stay and settle as soon as you could arrange it, should be enough to resolve concerns and send you on your way.
 
You will not get it revoked as your PR card doesn't expire until 2027. You are entering Canada before expiry.

PRs who are in breach of the Residency Obligation before the expiration of their PR card can be and many have been subject to inadmissibility proceedings resulting in a decision terminating PR status.

That includes PRs still within the first five years of landing, as the OP here is.

Odds are good the OP will be OK at the PoE, and otherwise, for PRs with a valid PR card, the odds are generally good they will be waived through without being questioned about RO compliance. But a valid PR card does not preclude being issued a Removal Order if found in breach of the RO at the PoE.


* Some pedants have an issue with my use of 'starting' the process here. Don't really understand why, nor care enough. It is the point at which revocation begins (without the write-up, it doesn't really start). Not enough time to argue with tedious, verbose, humourless pendants about such issues.

Whoa . . . Really? Got a burr in the boot? Humourless eh?

Make no mistake, if a Removal Order is issued for a breach of the RO, that is a decision that terminates PR status, the decision that revokes PR status. And, OK, I'll concede that's not funny, not humourous.

There is a right of appeal. Not exactly the same as a convicted criminal's right to appeal a jury's verdict, or the right of a party in a civil lawsuit to appeal a judgment issued against them, since the appeal of a decision terminating PR status (other than for cessation) is a de novo hearing not a review of the decision itself.

The right to appeal a Removal Order issued by CBSA officers is just like the right of appeal a PR has whose PR TD application has been denied; in both these cases (Removal Order issued at PoE and denied PR TD), to have any chance of keeping PR status the PR must successfully appeal the decision that revoked their PR status.
 
Whoa . . . Really? Got a burr in the boot? Humourless eh?
Yes.
Make no mistake, if a Removal Order is issued for a breach of the RO, that is a decision that terminates PR status, the decision that revokes PR status. And, OK, I'll concede that's not funny, not humourous.
Make no mistake, the discussion of whether it 'starts' when the PR is issued the 44(1) report on the same day and in the same sessions as when it happens, or ... some other time I guess? ... and should or should not be termed 'the start' is a meaningless semantic discussion and stupid.
 
Overall, in cases that stray outside the standard boundaries and involve complicated issues, particularly those that involve a RO breach, no one here can reliably quantify the odds. There are, however, numerous factors known to influence the odds. Like in RO breach cases, the bigger the breach the greater the risk. How these things go depends on the particular details in the individual case. The one for sure safe approach is to spend enough days in Canada to comply with the RO based on those days. For couples living outside Canada during the process of the citizen sponsoring the Foreign National, the for sure approach is to follow through with the plan to relocate to Canada soon enough after getting PR status to avoid any suspicion of misrepresentation as to intent and the plan.

Otherwise, the sooner you come to Canada to stay the better the odds all goes smoothly, no inadmissibility proceedings.

In particular . . .

Re RO credit for days outside Canada accompanying a Canadian citizen spouse/partner:

This is actually a big and complicated subject. It is discussed at length and in-depth in a topic I started more than 7 years ago and where just a year ago I posted this:


Probably no need, not worth your time, to wrestle much with all that. It appears you understand the basics sufficient to guide your decision-making. The technicalities are not likely to have much influence in that decision-making. (And the technicalities regarding this credit are plagued by various inconsistent interpretations and uneven application, so not a good forecast guide.)

There may be enough risk of not getting the credit to warrant avoiding much more delay than necessary in coming to Canada. But as has been discussed already, your odds of being OK are probably quite good and the worst case scenario (an unlikely scenario) is having to be sponsored again if per chance you were to lose PR status due to a RO breach.

In terms of the risks re the accompanying credit in particular, @canuck references an important factor, that you were not settled together in Canada before moving abroad but, rather, were settled outside Canada, so an officer with a strict approach could conclude you did not accompany one another in going outside Canada and deny RO credit for days outside Canada together. The risk of that is very difficult to assess. The fact that your partner sponsored you and that you have been living together as a family, including children, carries considerable weight in your favour. (Most of the known, actual cases in which couples living together have been denied the accompanying credit, involve egregious facts, and typically what at least appears to be gaming the system if not blatant abuse.)

As I said about this subject more than seven years ago, in regards to situations in which qualifying for the credit might be challenged at a PoE:


That has not changed much so far as we can discern. That is about simply traveling together when coming to Canada.

Moreover, it is also still largely true, as far as has been seen, that



Hard to say, in contrast, how much negative credibility influence there could be (in the eye of a not-so-friendly CBSA officer) based on a potential perception that the representations made in the sponsored PR application, regarding having a plan and the intent to move to Canada when you got PR status (which was necessary to qualify for a grant of PR status when the sponsor is not living in Canada), were less than honest. Of course you undoubtedly have good defenses rebutting any allegation of misrepresentations as to the plan to move here upon being granted PR status, since stuff happens, circumstances change, plans change, expectations fall through requiring adaptation, all sorts of real life stuff, and in contrast settling in Canada is still your real plan (as I understand this based on your posts), just taking a bit long to get it done. But being on defense is less than ideal, particularly since credibility can loom large even if the examining officer does not explicitly allege deception or misrepresentation. So it is a factor, one more factor among many.

So I understand @canuck's further comment

in terms of recognizing there is some risk in delaying the trip to Canada (to stay).

But that does not mean you shouldn't claim the credit. I do not mean to speak for what @canuck78's thinking on this is, but will say that to the extent there is a risk you do not get this credit, that is one of many things to consider in your decision-making, in balancing competing factors, in determining when to make the move.

Otherwise, if and when your RO compliance is being examined, such as in a Secondary examination at the Port-of-Entry (PoE), or attendant a PR card application, claim the credit.

Worst Case Scenario:

Don't overlook the platitudes, like "hope for the best, plan for the worst," or simply be prepared to deal with what could happen.

In regards to that, the worst case scenario, which is unlikely if you get here while only three or so months in breach of the RO (if you are in breach because credit for accompanying citizen partner is not allowed), is (1) being issued a Removal Order at the PoE (you would still be allowed to enter Canada and still be a PR as long as you have the right of appeal and pending an appeal), (2) losing the appeal, and (3) having to be sponsored again. Again, that seems rather unlikely even if per chance you were issued a Removal Order upon arrival here, particularly if you obtain help from a lawyer in prosecuting the appeal and you stay and settle here while the appeal is pending. This does not apply equally across the board for all PRs issued a Removal Order based on being inadmissible for a RO breach, no where near equally. Family ties in Canada in conjunction with demonstrating real intent to settle and stay in Canada, and a colorable argument for the accompanying partner credit, and the relatively small breach of the RO, are among factors that should carry considerable weight in the H&C analysis and favour allowing you to keep PR status even if the accompanying credit is denied.

In contrast, another reason to be optimistic about getting accompanying RO credit is that all but a very few of the known cases, in which a PR living with a citizen partner/spouse ("ordinarily residing" with in IRCC lingo) has been denied accompanying RO credit, arose in regards to applications for a PR Travel Document. Not PoE examinations. Of course there is the outside risk of running into a real (pick an epithet), one of CBSA's most aggressively strict officers, but a Removal Order will not be issued upon arrival here unless two CBSA officers acting independently conclude you are in breach, and even if both conclude you are in breach (even if both conclude you do not get the accompanying RO credit), before a Removal Order can be issued you still get to make the case you should be allowed to keep PR for H&C reasons (for you perhaps emphasizing difficulty in finding employment slowing your return, and family ties, and intent to settle in Canada, and you have not breached the RO by a lot).

All that caution-side stuff aside, if you are traveling as a family it is hard to imagine even being questioned about RO compliance, and even if you are questioned, just referring to having been living with your partner who is a Canadian citizen, and now you are all coming to Canada to stay and settle as soon as you could arrange it, should be enough to resolve concerns and send you on your way.

Canada now requires quite a lot more proof that you will be settling in Canada when sponsoring a spouse from abroad so not sure we can count on previous examples. Given that they are so close to meeting RO when they do actually settle in Canada not sure the risk of trying to count time abroad would be worthwhile for a variety of reasons. Waiting until you meet RO to apply for a new PR card is often faster and less complicated with zero risk.
 
Canada now requires quite a lot more proof that you will be settling in Canada when sponsoring a spouse from abroad so not sure we can count on previous examples. Given that they are so close to meeting RO when they do actually settle in Canada not sure the risk of trying to count time abroad would be worthwhile for a variety of reasons. Waiting until you meet RO to apply for a new PR card is often faster and less complicated with zero risk.
I think a couple different concepts and issues are possibly getting conflated here. To go back to the simple facts:
I became a PR in Dec 2022, completed a soft landing and returned home to the UK with my common law partner. Our relationship was validated as part of the PR application.

In the last three years we have been visiting different places in Canada trying to work out where we would live and applying for jobs. Unfortunately we haven’t been able to secure work applying from the UK so haven't made the move over.

We have recently been given the opportunity to live with family for minimal costs so we are looking at taking the plunge and moving next May (2026).

Does my case seem like a valid use of the ‘accompanying Canadian common-law partner abroad’ to count towards my RO?

Without this, I will be short 2-3 months on my RO (Probably spent around 8 weeks in Canada since becoming a PR) if we arrive in May 2026. Unsure what will happen to me if that is the case!
-PR since 2022, will only be short a few months on the RO when arriving in May 2026.
-PR card valid until 2027.
-Living with Canadian citizen, although could be complications using this time for RO compliance given never really settled.

There are multiple possibilities discussed here, but I think the most likely is fairly simple to predict:
-If asked about RO compliance at time of arrival in May 2026, refer to both living with Canadian spouse (have some evidence of residing together eg on phone) and one or two 'H&C reasons' (no matter how weak, even if just 'we were supposed to move and jobs, and family, and it was difficult, and granny was sick that time, and we heard about housing cris and election and ... etc' - mind, keep it relatively brief, just touch on these things.)

-CBSA's most likely (yes, in my opinion) move at this point is to not open anything formal, and wave the person through with or without a verbal warning and a note to file.

This would be true for most applicants who are only a 2-3 months short on the RO. With some H&C reasons (however weak) and the citizen-spouse issue, it would be a lot of paperwork for a file that may not (probably won't) go anywhere, and the PR could be re-sponsored anyway. In other words, for CBSA: a great, big, fat, waste of time. And the citizen-spouse issue is just something the line CBSA officers don't know much about, and don't want to deal with - let the PR deal with IRCC, if it comes up.

Now of course, I'm not saying it's impossible, just unlikely. No sense (IMO) planning for a low-likelihood case.

Anyone can have their own opinion on this of course.

As for the PR card: that issue is for 2027. We all mostly, it seems, agree: wait until in compliance to deal with renewal. As a British passport holder, this PR can fly to USA and enter Canada through land ports of entry (no valid PR card needed). Other than boarding a plane to Canada, PR card not needed for most things for those living in Canada.

There are caveats of course: being out of compliance and later with no valid PR card can be very inconvenient for those who need to travel a lot by plane. Note the problems are mostly when no valid PR card - while the PR card is valid primarly an issue if CBSA gets a bug up about the RO compliance. All real issues, but at this point, potential - good for the OP to know these might arise, but not the immediate issue to hand.