List of proof of residence documents according to their acceptance level for Spousal sponsorship

[deephow]

Hello members,
I saw a post somewhere that listed all the possible residence proof documents that we can submit when applying for a spousal sponsorship based on its priority/acceptance. That post was really helpful but I lost it. If anyone knows what I am talking about and has the link, please share it here. I would really appreciate your help!

Thank you in advance!

 

[sharmgop]

Hi there,

my file was transferred to Etobicoke, on march 13 I was asked to submit documents regarding genuineness of our relationship. we submitted them and just the next day I received a procedural fairness letter saying officer is not convinced of genuineness of the relationship. he has put the onus on me to satisfy him or else he will give refusal on the application. In one of the things he has asked me to provide this time, are the pictures in which family friends and relatives are participating in our marriage. in my case, my parents were back home and didn't attend my court marriage. my only two closest friends were present. I have also not been accepted by my in-laws so they were also not present. how do I satisfy the officer of these facts?????? that I can't provide the pictures in which my family is present.

 

[armoured]

Hi there,

my file was transferred to Etobicoke, on march 13 I was asked to submit documents regarding genuineness of our relationship. we submitted them and just the next day I received a procedural fairness letter saying officer is not convinced of genuineness of the relationship. he has put the onus on me to satisfy him or else he will give refusal on the application. In one of the things he has asked me to provide this time, are the pictures in which family friends and relatives are participating in our marriage. in my case, my parents were back home and didn't attend my court marriage. my only two closest friends were present. I have also not been accepted by my in-laws so they were also not present. how do I satisfy the officer of these facts?????? that I can't provide the pictures in which my family is present.

You don't provide much information here but provide what you can - first, an explanation of why your parents couldn't attend, and if they approve/have met your spouse, perhaps letters or whatever other support. An explanation that spouse's parents don't approve and that's why they didn't attend (if there's an obvious reason they don't approve like interfaith marriage or other, explain that).

If you live together currently, photos and documents supporting that (bills, govt docs with addresses, lease with both names, etc). Other photos and docs of friends, other relatives; if you had some marriage celebration outside the court marriage itself, info and photos of that. Some letters etc from friends, landlord, others that you are a married couple, and if you as a couple have attended public events (marriages, birthday parties, etc) of friends and relatives as well.

Go back to look at what you submitted before and see how it can be strengthened and documented further - particularly if (for example) when you submitted you had only a short period living together.

Note: if any of the normal 'married couple' stuff and events have been limited or affected by covid, make sure to mention and underline that as well.

Good luck.

 

[sharmgop]

You don't provide much information here but provide what you can - first, an explanation of why your parents couldn't attend, and if they approve/have met your spouse, perhaps letters or whatever other support. An explanation that spouse's parents don't approve and that's why they didn't attend (if there's an obvious reason they don't approve like interfaith marriage or other, explain that).

If you live together currently, photos and documents supporting that (bills, govt docs with addresses, lease with both names, etc). Other photos and docs of friends, other relatives; if you had some marriage celebration outside the court marriage itself, info and photos of that. Some letters etc from friends, landlord, others that you are a married couple, and if you as a couple have attended public events (marriages, birthday parties, etc) of friends and relatives as well.

Go back to look at what you submitted before and see how it can be strengthened and documented further - particularly if (for example) when you submitted you had only a short period living together.

Note: if any of the normal 'married couple' stuff and events have been limited or affected by covid, make sure to mention and underline that as well.

Good luck.

my parents are sending me a notarized letter from India explaining their side and I tried reaching out to my inlaws to accept me on different events and I was simply brushed off. Also, me and my wife is also writing a detailed explanation of how the marriage took place and why the inlaws and my parents did not show up. would this help??

 

[armoured]

my parents are sending me a notarized letter from India explaining their side and I tried reaching out to my inlaws to accept me on different events and I was simply brushed off. Also, me and my wife is also writing a detailed explanation of how the marriage took place and why the inlaws and my parents did not show up. would this help??

Hopefully it will help. Go through other suggestions in my post above.

If you have other relatives esp on the inlaws side - spouse's siblings, cousins, aunts, etc - who know your relationship and don't disapprove, and who have attended events, etc with you as a couple, that would also not hurt. (If they also explain why parents don't approve, too).

If your marriage attendance was a small ceremony due to covid, mention that. If you had any other family/friends wedding or engagement events which others attended - that too.

 

[armoured]

I repeat a previous question - are you living together?

You may also want to look at what you explained about how you know/met each other and see if there is more information you can provide.

You should order your GCMS notes as well to see if there is more info in there. Unfortunatley that generally takes 30 days and may not be available before you need to respond.

 

[sharmgop]

I have no one from in-laws side ready to support that my wife’s mom and dad haven’t accepted me to this day. I tried approaching my sisters in law and was simply brushed off
Should I write it to officer that they never accepted me and I tried approaching them multiple times, should I tell officer that I have evidence for that as well?
They talk with my wife but not me. Also, me and my wife is also writing a detailed letter for the support of our genuineness
We are living together since we submitted the application

 

[sharmgop]

I have no one from in-laws side ready to support that my wife’s mom and dad haven’t accepted me to this day. I tried approaching my sisters in law and was simply brushed off
Should I write it to officer that they never accepted me and I tried approaching them multiple times, should I tell officer that I have evidence for that as well?
They talk with my wife but not me. Also, me and my wife is also writing a detailed letter for the support of our genuineness
We are living together since we submitted the application

They are all telling my wife that they don’t wanna get involved with the government over our case.

 

[armoured]

I have no one from in-laws side ready to support that my wife’s mom and dad haven’t accepted me to this day. I tried approaching my sisters in law and was simply brushed off
Should I write it to officer that they never accepted me and I tried approaching them multiple times, should I tell officer that I have evidence for that as well?
They talk with my wife but not me. Also, me and my wife is also writing a detailed letter for the support of our genuineness
We are living together since we submitted the application

They are all telling my wife that they don’t wanna get involved with the government over our case.

It may be easier to understand if you summarize briefly why they don't accept you - but you don't have to share that here, it's up to you. If it's religious/cultural and can be explained to IRCC that way, it will help them understand.

So some thoughts but keep in mind I don't know what you provided before and key details like when you got married and applied:
1) You're living together as a married couple, provide what you can that supports that over time and since your marriage. Living together as a married couple and showing it - publicly and with documents - may be your strongest response here (esp if you can't provide photos of marriage with family).
2) Evidence you have friends and family that interact with you as a married couple helps. For those that don't (in-laws), explain briefly and factually the situation and why.
3) For your wife's letter - don't write a long romance novel. Bullet point - easily read - with factual things that you can show evidence of are more useful than poetry.
4) If you can't provide some things, compensate by providing other things. If you can't get from family, from friends. (If they mention that they know about the family situation ie the lack of approval, can't hurt.)
5) If your wife can get from her sisters (for example) a neutral, factual letter of the situation from them, it might support. (Obviously not if they call you a criminal or whatever). For example "she married him in XX and we know about the marriage. Our parents don't approve because [reason] and it has caused a big rift in our family, we could not attend the wedding and contact is limited. I can't get involved but hope it gets resolved eventually." I know this may not be realistic but I think you can see what I mean might at least support the case; you'll have to use your judgment if you get a letter that you think makes things worse.

You may want to engage a lawyer - the letter you got is quite serious. It doesn't mean you can't put together your own response but it's up to you.

Good luck.

 

[sharmgop]

My friend as said above
My wife and me have tried to get even a cousin to write
Nobody is willing to help and write
My friends present at wedding are willing to write

 

[sharmgop]

It may be easier to understand if you summarize briefly why they don't accept you - but you don't have to share that here, it's up to you. If it's religious/cultural and can be explained to IRCC that way, it will help them understand.

So some thoughts but keep in mind I don't know what you provided before and key details like when you got married and applied:
1) You're living together as a married couple, provide what you can that supports that over time and since your marriage. Living together as a married couple and showing it - publicly and with documents - may be your strongest response here (esp if you can't provide photos of marriage with family).
2) Evidence you have friends and family that interact with you as a married couple helps. For those that don't (in-laws), explain briefly and factually the situation and why.
3) For your wife's letter - don't write a long romance novel. Bullet point - easily read - with factual things that you can show evidence of are more useful than poetry.
4) If you can't provide some things, compensate by providing other things. If you can't get from family, from friends. (If they mention that they know about the family situation ie the lack of approval, can't hurt.)
5) If your wife can get from her sisters (for example) a neutral, factual letter of the situation from them, it might support. (Obviously not if they call you a criminal or whatever). For example "she married him in XX and we know about the marriage. Our parents don't approve because [reason] and it has caused a big rift in our family, we could not attend the wedding and contact is limited. I can't get involved but hope it gets resolved eventually." I know this may not be realistic but I think you can see what I mean might at least support the case; you'll have to use your judgment if you get a letter that you think makes things worse.

You may want to engage a lawyer - the letter you got is quite serious. It doesn't mean you can't put together your own response but it's up to you.

Good luck.

I have consulted with lawyers as well, they’re all saying that it’s a difficult situation to be in, actually my previous consultant has not presented my case properly. And as far as I can see, if I still provide him with everything that he needs this last time with proper explanations. I still have a shot

 

[sharmgop]

Hi @armoured,
How’re you?
I just wanted to discuss something
I received my imm5532 form that my consultant submitted to immigration
It is missing information
Like one point she has not answered it at all.. hopefully I’ve reached this point in my process
Can I submit this form with full information now or not?
For me and my wife

 

[armoured]

Hi @armoured,
How’re you?
I just wanted to discuss something
I received my imm5532 form that my consultant submitted to immigration
It is missing information
Like one point she has not answered it at all.. hopefully I’ve reached this point in my process
Can I submit this form with full information now or not?
For me and my wife

Sure, include with your other info. What question was not answered?

 

[sharmgop]

Sure, include with your other info. What question was not answered?

The question says
“Is there more information you wish to share to support your relationship?”
My consultant left it blank
One more question
Were pa’s parents and sponsor’s parents present in wedding?
She just wrote pa’s parents were not physically present and sponsor’s parents were not invited
Which is fine to write but she could have stated facts and evidence to support this, but she didn’t.
She basically screwed my application. After my decision I’m looking forward to file a lawsuit on her because of her incompetence
I’m still thankful to god that I have this last fair chance to present everything and I’m doing it myself. I have 15 days left to submit a response.

 

[armoured]

The question says
“Is there more information you wish to share to support your relationship?”
My consultant left it blank
One more question
Were pa’s parents and sponsor’s parents present in wedding?
She just wrote pa’s parents were not physically present and sponsor’s parents were not invited
Which is fine to write but she could have stated facts and evidence to support this, but she didn’t.
She basically screwed my application. After my decision I’m looking forward to file a lawsuit on her because of her incompetence
I’m still thankful to god that I have this last fair chance to present everything and I’m doing it myself. I have 15 days left to submit a response.

Keep in mind I don't know specifics of your case (and you still haven't answered - are you living together? have you been living together for more than a year, in Canada?) nor how your consultant handled the file or why.

But overall - yes, provide all the info as suggested above and whatever you can think of to support genuineness of your relationship and the reasons parents / relatives did not attend.

Now specifically on the form: I don't know that there is any specific benefit to re-doing and re-submitting the form with just these two questions, as they are the relatively broad "is there more information you wish to provide." If you wish, you could write a short letter of explanation noting that you are now submitting information that relates to [question 9 and question 11 if those are the right numbers.] You can also note that you are unhappy with how little the consultant provided on these questions and that it was a mistake on your part to rely on their advice - but keep this complaint SHORT. Focus on providing facts to the IRCC.

I have no opinion on whether you'd have any luck pursuing some action against your consultant or whether it's worth the trouble - but for the time being focus on providing facts to IRCC that support your case.

It really is relevant whether you are living together or not now - as an established married couple, recognized by friends, extended family, 'the public' (landlords etc), joint accounts and things like that as well. If you can't get info/support from family, from friends helps. If you've been living together for more than a year, especially.

Different situation but in our own case we showed a variety of events we held for friends/family beyond the formal ones listed even if they were small. As I noted as an example, if you have attended events of friends (marriages, christenings, whatever) as a couple and have photos or letters/evidence to support, that is a type of evidence that you are seen as a married couple (i.e. when friends have 'life event' ceremonies, you're invited as a couple).