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Landing process, vehicle import questions

Discussion in 'Family Class Sponsorship' started by besson3c, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. Hello! Some questions…

    My wife and I have been living in the US, she is an American citizen, I’m a Canadian citizen. My wife has just recently received her confirmation of permanent residency, we need to land before the end of March and had some questions about this process.

    We will not be ready to move all of our things for good by the end of March, we’ll have a number of things to do here to wrap up (putting our house on the market, etc.), we were hoping to complete the move in the summer. Our understanding is that with my wife’s confirmation of permanent residency, as long as we land before the end of March we can use her letter, and forthcoming record of landing to come and go from Canada via our private vehicles (i.e. cars) as needed in order to do this?

    It is our understanding that once we have established ourselves in Canada that we’ll notify Canada of our Canadian address within 180 days of becoming a permanent resident, and they will mail my wife her permanent resident card? When we land, my wife will be issued a record of landing, which, along with her confirmation of permanent residency will function as a temporary permanent resident card? It doesn’t seem like there is a set expiration for this, or is there? Is the permanent resident card just to make this process easier, and more permanent? We obviously have no intentions to not get her card, we’re just looking for assurances that we won’t be hassled with relying on these two documents temporarily, before her card is issued?

    Is it also correct that the residency requirements are for keeping the permanent residency in good standing? We have no intention to relocate after our move, just curious as to how this is assessed.

    What, exactly, should we expect when crossing the border? Is there enough documentation needed that should we make landing a separate trip, rather than during our next more time sensitive visit to Canada? Or, will this be a pretty low-stress document signing formality?

    As far as crossing the border with $10,000 or more. By “carrying” do they mean physical money in possession? I’m assuming so, and that money transfers are tracked differently, without requiring this form? We don’t plan to travel with that kind of money on-hand, I’m just wondering what the process of moving some funds to a Canadian bank account might entail.

    Regarding our having to list personal and household items, how detailed will this list need to be? I’m assuming that we won’t need to list every garment in our clothing collection, but more so larger pieces of furniture or anything with some sort of substantial amount of value? Is there a rough value we should focus on?

    Looking at this same page, under the “other documents you might need” section it looks like a number of pieces of info requested in our sponsorship application is listed here as well. Should we bring a copy of this application, or is this mostly intended for people in other circumstances? What other documents would you suggest bringing for this landing process?

    Vehicles…

    We understand that we will have to pay GST on the values of our vehicles in order to import them. How are these values assessed? We’ll need to decide whether it makes sense to sell one or both of our vehicles here in the States, or import them and pay the GST. This is obviously outside of the scope of immigration, but is there a website which details which vehicles bought in the states can be easily serviced in Canada?

    As far as the timing of this, will our vehicles be legal until our American vehicle registration expires? How long will we be able to use only our American drivers licenses?



    Thanks in advance for helping with these questions, I realize there are many here, but even answering those that you can will help reduce a lot of stress!
     
  2. I am on my tablet so a will written reply is nearly impossible but you really are confused and need answers. I hope others chime in here. Quickly though, you don't have to pay gst or sell your cars. You only need her passport and copr to land and travel back and fourth tool you fully move. You won't get a record of landing only a copy of your copr. Yes only cash on your person need be declared.
     
  3. Thanks Alurra71!

    Is there a way I can post links here so that you can see from what CIC page I'm getting the info about car importing from? My car is a 2003 Corolla, it is not listed in the vehicle import compatibility list.

    I appreciate your response here, this is reassuring.
     
  4. Ok, will chime in here...
    My wife will be landing from the US in end of March, but officially moving house goods and cars later, maybe end of June.
    You need to prepare a B4 form, will post some links as explain about it.
    The items following, on initial landing MUST be in this B4! That way, they have a copy, and when you cross at the border with goods, they will be listed. You can't be buying a ton of things after the landing, not on the form, or you will pay duty/taxes.
    Read the 4th post down on this link, and all links in it what to do at landing and following goods.

    http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t165895.0.html

    The cars are another matter.
    On the B4, you will list your cars serial/VIN, make model etc. Bring a bill of sale if possible at landing for it as well.
    I will get back on more of the cars later, unless someone else wants to resume from here.
     
  5. I'm just wanting to clarify one thing, if anyone can explain...
    When a person does initial landing, and makes permanent move later in a few months, the vehicle serial/VIn will be on the B$, along with copy of title and bill of sale. Does the person need the recall notice at time of initial landing with the B4, or at a later date when dealing with RIV?
     
  6. Thanks guys!

    I guess it's best to err on being super detailed with the B4, just so that there aren't any complications nor red flags. Am I correct in stating that if something is forgotten we'll have to pay duty on that item, or are there other, more severe penalties?
     
  7. If you forget an item on the B4, you'll need to declare it when you import it and pay duties on it.

    As for the other questions in your OP, you may find some of the FAQs over in the US Applicant's thread helpful:

    Regarding traveling before you get the PR card:

    Residency obligations to keep the PR card are best summarized in the instructions for PR card renewal - basically she needs to be in Canada two out of every five years on a rolling basis. There are exceptions, which are outlined in Appendix A of http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5445ETOC.asp
     
  8. Fantastic guys, it looks like there are only three of my original questions that are outstanding, plus I have one new one :)

    What, exactly, should we expect when crossing the border? Is there enough documentation needed that should we make landing a separate trip, rather than during our next more time sensitive visit to Canada? Or, will this be a pretty low-stress document signing formality?

    As far as crossing the border with $10,000 or more. By “carrying” do they mean physical money in possession? I'm assuming so, and that money transfers are tracked differently, without requiring this form? We don't plan to travel with that kind of money on-hand, I'm just wondering what the process of moving some funds to a Canadian bank account might entail.

    Looking at this same page, under the “other documents you might need” section it looks like a number of pieces of info requested in our sponsorship application is listed here as well. Should we bring a copy of this application, or is this mostly intended for people in other circumstances? What other documents would you suggest bringing for this landing process?

    It looks like importing or vehicles will not work out, our vehicles are not on the RIV approved list. Can we use our vehicles temporarily to assist with the move, and for very temporary visits?
     
  9. Landing is a very easy laid back process. All she will need to complete the landing process is her passport and her COPR. Again, only cash that you are carrying on your person of 10k or more must be declared. Moving money electronically does not need to be declared as the bank I assume takes care of that part. What kind of vehicles do you have that they don't qualify under RIV? Does the RIV website specifically say that your vehicles are excluded?
     

  10. Yeah, the RIV website says that my wife's 2008 Smart car, and my 2003 Corolla do not qualify. It also mentions that the list may not be complete, but perhaps this whole importing deal is going to be more trouble than it is worth...
     
  11. This is a direct quote from RIV regarding your Corolla : "1999 TO 2007 All Toyota and Lexus passenger car models built BEFORE September 1, 2007. " This, by the way, is in the ADMISSABLE list. Still searching for Smart car information.

    EDITED FOR THE SMART INFORMATION: "2008 TO 2010 All Smart models [EIS] (see all notes)" also found in the ADMISSABLE, see paragraph 9 on the 'notes' section about EIS link here so you can read about EIS http://www.tc.gc.ca/motorvehiclesafety/safevehicles/importation/usa/vafus/list2/Explanations.htm

    Short and simple, BOTH of your cars are indeed admissible and allowable in Canada. Easier for you to import those vehicles duty/tax free now than it would be for you to purchase new ones once you get into Canada. Of course, it is your choice.
     

  12. Yeah, I was obviously misreading the Toyota page and couldn't find the Smart page, I didn't know it was listed under Mercedes. I guess we just need to figure out if the Smart has EIS, but my assumption is that it ships with it, and that the RIV just wants to assure that this hasn't been disabled for some reason...

    How would these be imported duty/tax free though? Are you saying that the only fee would be the $195 RIV fee plus GST on that fee?
     
  13. Because you are a returning Canadian citizen and your wife is a 'new' permanent resident she is entitled to bring her personal belongings, ALL of them, INCLUDING her car tax exempt across the border. You, as a returning Canadian are entitled to bring your articles from a stay away from canada exceeding 5 years (I think it is) tax exempt. Either way, because she is a new pr and you are a canadian citizen, you can bring everything you currently own across the border with no fees/taxes due. The RIV fee must be paid for both cars but no GST at all to be paid. Just fill up the B4 forms properly, and please, read read read some more. You are still way too confused on what 'landing' actually means and what can and can't be done. These forums are a WEALTH of information about what needs to be filled out, how to fill it out, how to import your vehicles everything you need to know is here on this forum at your fingertips. The search function is your friend.
     

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