Kingston,Jamaica

[firstladyking]

If you put the child as non-accompanying, it will be a separate process when you are ready for him to immigrate. As in, waiting for CPC-M, going back to KG, all of that.

Sorry CharlieD, I hit remove by accident and deleted my message. Thanks for the insight. Is the only way around it to let him go through the process and if his father decides not to take him he should leave him in Jamaice until his medical expires (the son's I mean)?

 

[firstladyking]

I don't mean to sound cruel or anything but you know how these young people can get when they reach certain age and decide they don't want to listen to their parents any more. His father has been struggling to keep him straight and it's taking so much out of the entire family down there. He just won't listen.

 

[Jamgirl]

He will be asked for a new one, most likely. I can't recall seeing a case of a Jamaican spouse who didn't have to renew their Jamaican PCC. You could email them, but they will likely send you a stock answer.

PCC and medicals are good for a year. In the case of the PCC, the application has to reach CPC-M before it is 3 months old, then it is valid for a year.

Am I understanding you correctly that the PCC expires one year from date received in Mississauga? OR IS IT, One year from date on PCC certificate? If it isn't the latter, then I am good til October....

 

[CharlieD10]

You can either put him as non-accompanying now, and sponsor him later or not at all, or put him as accompanying now, and not use the visa, in which case you make it harder for him to be sponsored later on if you change your mind.

At 17, lots of young people get hard of hearing. They think they know all there is to know about life, and what they want, and they are not willing to listen to anyone. Has anyone sat down and discussed with him what it will mean if he does not go with his father? What arrangements will be made for his care? Many parents leave children in the hands of relatives when they emigrate, and regret the decision. On the other hand, many parents take their children abroad only to find that they fall in with the wrong crowd, or become disruptive to the family peace and cause issues inside the home. He is 17, maybe he should be treated like the man he feels he is, and given options with relevant consequences and told to make a decision.

His options should be clearly explained to him, and some of those options might include emphasizing the fact that he is of an age where he can strike out on his own. If he comes to Canada, it should be with the idea of pursuing meaningful paths, not coming to Canada just to say he is in "farrin". He should be presented with options for work or school as being the only routes by which he will be a meaningful member of the family in Canada. Otherwise, he should be presented with options for the same thing in Jamaica: school, or work. Other than these, if he feels to go out and do whatever he feels like doing and no-one must talk to him, let him go with the understanding that no-one is going to be responsible for him, as he is soon to be a legal adult.

I realize I might sound cold, but too many children nowadays "mad" their parents with their antics because they feel there are no consequences to their actions. I think if a 17-year old won't listen, well, "who cyaan hear haffi feel". Sometimes the only way to smarten them up is to present them with some cold hard facts, some cold hard choices, and then they can take it from there. A little dose of reality never hurt anyone.

 

[CharlieD10]

Am I understanding you correctly that the PCC expires one year from date received in Mississauga? OR IS IT, One year from date on PCC certificate? If it isn't the latter, then I am good til October....

One year from the date it was issued IF it is received at Mississauga before 3 months since have passed since it was issued.

 

[Jamgirl]

Ok, PCC was done July 26ish... received in Miss. on October 19th... so expires this July. Just as I thought. Was really hoping that he wouldn't have to re-do it. I don't even think my voice will be heard if I email KGN about it. They really don't care. I am just a number...

 

[CharlieD10]

Everyone is a number to them. Someone once explained to me that IOs have to be somewhat detached, because if they got caught up personally in everyone's story, it would be difficult for them to objectively evaluate all the applications they deal with.

You don't necessarily have to wait for KG to request the new PCC, your husband could go and get a new one done and drop it off/send it in with a nice little cover note explaining that on reviewing your application details you realize that is now expired and in an effort to be proactive you are supplying a new one to assist with their continued processing of the file. Remember, the Criminal Records Division and the tax office don't need to see anything requesting the PCC, they just want the tax dollars.

 

[Jamgirl]

that's true, thanks Charlie

 

[ready_fi_move_on]

good eving family .... just wanted to pop in and say thanks for the info i checked on a coupple of those site and it opened up a field of other sites you guys are great xoxo
charlieD OUR OWN PERSONAL BOOK OF KWOLDEGE where would we all be without you... you are truely a gift to all of us

 

[blondie1216]

Ok, PCC was done July 26ish... received in Miss. on October 19th... so expires this July. Just as I thought. Was really hoping that he wouldn't have to re-do it. I don't even think my voice will be heard if I email KGN about it. They really don't care. I am just a number...

Hey Jamgirl, try emailing Kingston and telling them about it. I emailed them and got a response so they may just answer you. They have been very helpful all the times that I have dealt with them. Just make sure put in your client # and every other number they gave you..

 

[ready_fi_move_on]

Nite forum family ... Off to dream land where everthing is normal... Prayn for some wonderful news to come for all

 

[chickie72]

Ohh...I read her post entirely differently. I read where she said to "put the child on the application" as meaning she has the child listed as a non-accompanying dependent and was wondering if they should change that to accompanying dependent.

You are correct, though, if a dependent is not declared and examined on a parent's application for PR, they cannot be sponsored in future. Section 117(9)(d) is the relevant section of the Regulations, and it is pretty much ironclad. They don't care why the dependent was not declared, it is cut and dried: no declaration + no examination = no sponsorship ever.

Charlie you read it right the first time. He was on the app but just on the form where hubby had to put family members down. They sent my app back saying we had to fill out the additional depend ants forms with him on there because I thought if he was nonaccompanying that was where I put his info (family member form) but now I am asking since I have to add him to the form additional depend ants can I put him as accompanying now and send in the additional 150 dollars.

 

[akinna]

Thanks for the welcome Ali and congrats on your progress to date. I haven't been so lucky as you can see waiting over 11 months now and still no word. Trying to be patient, don't know what I should do.

 

[akinna]

to first lady welcome....I have been waiting almost as long as you i applied last April paper work sent off in June to Kingston and I never got an AOR. when my consultant emailed them...they said the reason I never received one is because they do not require anything from me...my status changed to processing application on April 5th this year I received a letter with the additiopnal documents they were requesting....they gave me 60days to take them in...I did so in a little less than 30 that was a week ago am back in the waiting line, not knowing whats gonna happen next..so once again welcome to the forum and the waiting club...where all you need is a little faith and a lot of patience. .
we will all get there soon.

 

[Mrslwsn]

Welcome welcome welcome All new! Congrats on any updates, tried reading up as much as I can but unnu a fly through nuff pages LOL!
Hope everyone is doing well...

Took 62 days in total but my husband received his PR card end of June. Thats my boring update lol