Inconsistent NOC duty comments in GCMS Notes?

[popoxee]

I ordered my GCMS note, and in the note, it says:

Express Entry Requirement of A11.2: Not Met
...
Work Exprience: The duties listed in the letters of reference DID NOT appear to be consistent with actions in the lead statement under the NOC code selected. ... The letter of reference appears to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 12 months of work experience.

And under Activities in the notes, both Candidate - PNP and Candidate - CEC are changed to Not Met, and Eligibility changed to Review Required


Did anyone have this situation? What is impact on this? Should I worry about this?


I am CEC with PNP.

 

[wskamel]

you should get a new letter with better matching to the NOC and upload urgently through CSE

 

[popoxee]

you should get a new letter with better matching to the NOC and upload urgently through CSE

I had 2 jobs in the last year which corresponds to different NOC code.

In the comment, one of the job says consistent and another job says inconsistent. Either I pick will result in one of them being inconsistent...

 

[ImmiToCanada]

In the rejection thread http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t306713.0.html;msg5125954#msg5125954, I saw a guy (@ConnieD) successfully avoided an almost certain rejection (NOC code and job duties not match as suggested in GCMS notes ) by submitting additional proof via CSE.

 

[wskamel]

which Noc you are applying under ? this should be the one that is concern for you , because you claimed eligibility for EE through that NOC , if the Officer has concern about a job that you worked for FEW months and isn't your primary Career and isn't your NOC in EE , it wouldn't have resulted in "not met " for A11.2 Eligibility

 

[smallcoffee2milk]

There is something I don't understand in your case.
If you had a PNP certificate, that means you already submitted your case to a provincial office for review and passed from it under CEC class with a NOC code, In order to satisfy CEC you need minimum 12 months work exp under a single O,A,B NOC which I believe you already have. This contradicts with what you stated above that for the past 1 year you worked on 2 different NOC.
Is there something you didn't fully disclose on your post regarding your case ? If you only had 1 year of EXP and it's under 2 different NOC, it shouldn't pass the first review stage of the provincial office for CEC assessment isn't it?

 

[FMCAD]

There is something I don't understand in your case.
If you had a PNP certificate, that means you already submitted your case to a provincial office for review and passed from it under CEC class with a NOC code, In order to satisfy CEC you need minimum 12 months work exp under a single O,A,B NOC which I believe you already have. This contradicts with what you stated above that for the past 1 year you worked on 2 different NOC.
Is there something you didn't fully disclose on your post regarding your case ? If you only had 1 year of EXP and it's under 2 different NOC, it shouldn't pass the first review stage of the provincial office for CEC assessment isn't it?

If you see his notes, CIC agent is actually changing candidate PNP- eligibility to NOT MET. That's a concern. This is always a grey area, if candidate has PNP then why CIC is making him ineligible.

 

[FMCAD]

I ordered my GCMS note, and in the note, it says:

Express Entry Requirement of A11.2: Not Met
...
Work Exprience: The duties listed in the letters of reference DID NOT appear to be consistent with actions in the lead statement under the NOC code selected. ... The letter of reference appears to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 12 months of work experience.

And under Activities in the notes, both Candidate - PNP and Candidate - CEC are changed to Not Met, and Eligibility changed to Review Required


Did anyone have this situation? What is impact on this? Should I worry about this?


I am CEC with PNP.

Can you share your job duties and responsibilities letter?

 

[smallcoffee2milk]

If you see his notes, CIC agent is actually changing candidate PNP- eligibility to NOT MET. That's a concern. This is always a grey area, if candidate has PNP then why CIC is making him ineligible.

Makes sense, and I always believed that IRCC will re-assess the eligibility criteria for PNP candidates again after they submitted their case. I guess we can only answer OP's question with more detailed posts from him/her.

 

[popoxee]

which Noc you are applying under ? this should be the one that is concern for you , because you claimed eligibility for EE through that NOC , if the Officer has concern about a job that you worked for FEW months and isn't your primary Career and isn't your NOC in EE , it wouldn't have resulted in "not met " for A11.2 Eligibility

There is something I don't understand in your case.
If you had a PNP certificate, that means you already submitted your case to a provincial office for review and passed from it under CEC class with a NOC code, In order to satisfy CEC you need minimum 12 months work exp under a single O,A,B NOC which I believe you already have. This contradicts with what you stated above that for the past 1 year you worked on 2 different NOC.
Is there something you didn't fully disclose on your post regarding your case ? If you only had 1 year of EXP and it's under 2 different NOC, it shouldn't pass the first review stage of the provincial office for CEC assessment isn't it?

My case is kinda complicated. I had 2 jobs in the last year since I graduated, but they are the same basically.

My old company was aquired by a big company, and my job title changed. But my responsibility/duty was the same. I used the new NOC code that corresponds to the new job title.

But do you need one single NOC for PNP and CEC? I put 2171 and 2173 for my two jobs.

 

[tatianatiana]

My case is kinda complicated. I had 2 jobs in the last year since I graduated, but they are the same basically.

My old company was aquired by a big company, and my job title changed. But my responsibility/duty was the same.

I used the new NOC code that corresponds to the new job title.

But do you need one single NOC for PNP and CEC? I put 2171 and 2173 for my two jobs.

You need the NOC's duties -- not the title.

any updates on your case?

 

[smallcoffee2milk]

My case is kinda complicated. I had 2 jobs in the last year since I graduated, but they are the same basically.

My old company was aquired by a big company, and my job title changed. But my responsibility/duty was the same.

I used the new NOC code that corresponds to the new job title.

But do you need one single NOC for PNP and CEC? I put 2171 and 2173 for my two jobs.

When you submit your case for review(to PNP, IRCC), did you put in the NOC code based on your job duty or your designation?
IMO the NOC code should be consistent with the job duty, your job title should not matter as long as it's within the reasonable range.
We're kinda in the same boat since my job is computer related as well, my job title is consultant however all I do was web programming thus I picked the one suits what I do the most as my primary NOC code.

 

[popoxee]

Makes sense, and I always believed that IRCC will re-assess the eligibility criteria for PNP candidates again after they submitted their case. I guess we can only answer OP's question with more detailed posts from him/her.

Here is a full note (I cannot post image somehow.)

REVIEW TYPE: Case Analyst APPLICATION: REGULATION: PNP I have reviewed this application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. I have verified this application under Section 11.2 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) and make the following determination. EXPRESS ENTRY TRIAGE: Remains in Canada EXPRESS ENTRY: REQUIREMENTS OF (A11.2): NOT MET EXPRESS ENTRY TRIAGE: Remains in Canada FOSS/GCMS check - PA: No adverse info. Principal applicant currently holds valid status in Canada. Status until: 2017/06/24. CIVIL STATUS - PA never married - NO Spouse or Common Law declared PNP NOMINATION - Province of Nomination: Ontario. - Stream Type: Nomination validity: Original. WORK EXPERIENCES : Quali in Period: 2012/12/18-2015112/18 1) .11- (NOC2171) April 4, 2014-Present Dec 10, 2015 The duties listed in the letter(s) of reference DID NOT appear to to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under the NOC code selected. The evidence submitted does not indicate any duties that match the actions in the lead statement under the NOC code selected. The letter(s) of reference DID NOT appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties under the NOC code selected. The evidence on file DOES NOT clear! indicate that the PA performed any of the main ' C code selected. "'NO DUTIES*" 2) (NOC2173) June 17, 2014 - April 8, 2015 . Dec 9, 2015 The duties listed in the letter(s) of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under the NOC code selected. The letter(s) of reference appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties under the NOC code selected. The letter(s) of reference appear to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 12 months of work experience.

You need the NOC's duties -- not the title.

any updates on your case?

No I just got the Note sent to me today. I guess I should get a new Letter of Reference from my company and submit a CSE?

Can you share your job duties and responsibilities letter?

I cannot post any files or URL here for some reason.

I just checked my Application documents again. The job letter that is inconsistent actually does not contain a list of duties (damn the HR people)
I will try to call my HR and see if I can get a new one with list of duties.

 

[tatianatiana]

Here is a full note (I cannot post image somehow.)

REVIEW TYPE: Case Analyst APPLICATION: REGULATION: PNP I have reviewed this application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. I have verified this application under Section 11.2 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) and make the following determination. EXPRESS ENTRY TRIAGE: Remains in Canada EXPRESS ENTRY: REQUIREMENTS OF (A11.2): NOT MET EXPRESS ENTRY TRIAGE: Remains in Canada FOSS/GCMS check - PA: No adverse info. Principal applicant currently holds valid status in Canada. Status until: 2017/06/24. CIVIL STATUS - PA never married - NO Spouse or Common Law declared PNP NOMINATION - Province of Nomination: Ontario. - Stream Type: Nomination validity: Original. WORK EXPERIENCES : Quali in Period: 2012/12/18-2015112/18 1) .11- (NOC2171) April 4, 2014-Present Dec 10, 2015 The duties listed in the letter(s) of reference DID NOT appear to to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under the NOC code selected. The evidence submitted does not indicate any duties that match the actions in the lead statement under the NOC code selected. The letter(s) of reference DID NOT appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties under the NOC code selected. The evidence on file DOES NOT clear! indicate that the PA performed any of the main ' C code selected. "'NO DUTIES*" 2) (NOC2173) June 17, 2014 - April 8, 2015 . Dec 9, 2015 The duties listed in the letter(s) of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under the NOC code selected. The letter(s) of reference appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties under the NOC code selected. The letter(s) of reference appear to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 12 months of work experience.





No I just got the Note sent to me today. I guess I should get a new Letter of Reference from my company and submit a CSE?



I cannot post any files or URL here for some reason.

I just checked my Application documents again. The job letter that is inconsistent actually does not contain a list of duties (damn the HR people)
I will try to call my HR and see if I can get a new one with list of duties.

getting a letter from your company would be the best decision. You can even do a draft yourself, try to paraphrase the NOC lead statement -- but do not copy paste exact wording. Would you mind sharing your job duties and NOC code you choose to match?

 

[popoxee]

getting a letter from your company would be the best decision. You can even do a draft yourself, try to paraphrase the NOC lead statement -- but do not copy paste exact wording. Would you mind sharing your job duties and NOC code you choose to match?

I think I will match the old job since the new job is merely an acquisition.

NOC: 2173
My old job duties (new job duties would be similar):

- Maintain existing code base in current projects
- Develop new system components in different projects
- Conduct deployment and maintenance releases for hosted projects
- Perform analysis on system performance, processes, etc.