How Express entry will affect CEC

[vipsv]

One more question..
I will be having one year experience by March 2015. So to apply under CEC category, Do i need to have LMIA.?

 

[maniac2403]

One more question..
I will be having one year experience by March 2015. So to apply under CEC category, Do i need to have LMIA.?

Application for CEC does not depend on the applicant to remain in Canada. So to answer your question, no you don't need an LMIA. But if you wanted to stay in Canada and your WP expires before you get your AOR, you might have to look at LMIA.

 

[caththisking]

Hi PMM,

I think you're mistaken but correct me if I'm wrong. From the link you posted, here's an extract:

Candidates with an ITA will have 60 days to apply for permanent residence through one of four existing economic immigration programs:
Federal Skilled Worker Program (FSWP)
Federal Skilled Trades Program (FSTP)
Canadian Experience Class (CEC)
Provincial Nominee Program (PNP)
Applicants will need to meet the criteria set out in the immigration program which applies to them

Does this not mean the existing rules will still exist?

You are right that doesn't make sense.....if we are eligible for CEC and how come this EE also has CEC. confusion to the core...if employer provide me job and then apply under this program doesn't make sense as no employer will be ready to wait for 6 months or so

 

[Goku]

You are right that doesn't make sense.....if we are eligible for CEC and how come this EE also has CEC. confusion to the core...if employer provide me job and then apply under this program doesn't make sense as no employer will be ready to wait for 6 months or so

I agree. Nothing makes sense especially when it comes to CEC. So that why its better to wait for set of rules to come out.

 

[ZingyDNA]

Hi PMM,

I think you're mistaken but correct me if I'm wrong. From the link you posted, here's an extract:

Candidates with an ITA will have 60 days to apply for permanent residence through one of four existing economic immigration programs:
Federal Skilled Worker Program (FSWP)
Federal Skilled Trades Program (FSTP)
Canadian Experience Class (CEC)
Provincial Nominee Program (PNP)
Applicants will need to meet the criteria set out in the immigration program which applies to them

Does this not mean the existing rules will still exist?

Yes as I understand it, the existing rules will still exist, at least for the most part. Getting an ITA(Invitation to Apply) through Express Entry will give you (a big) priority over others, when you later apply though programs like FSW, CEC etc.

So Express Entry is like Provincial Nomination, except you get nominated by an employer 8)

So if my speculation is right, CEC will be affected, specifically those who worked before but do NOT have a job offer when they apply.

 

[mf4361]

I agree. Nothing makes sense especially when it comes to CEC. So that why its better to wait for set of rules to come out.

To my understanding from CIC website, express entry is put on top of CEC application criteria. So essentially, you will need to show CIC why they want you into Canada (known as EOI). Then they will invite you to apply, after that everything stay the same as CEC now. Except of course the shorter process time as they promise.

But I agree with above too. CIC states people who already have a job offer will be given priority. So wouldn't this includes all CEC applicants (since CEC requires previous work experience in Canada)

The new system focus so much on matching people outside of Canada with Canadian employers. There is little connection for non-permanent residents inside Canada who want to stay in Canada. I really hope they release more info, specifically on CEC under EE.

 

[ZingyDNA]

But I agree with above too. CIC states people who already have a job offer will be given priority. So wouldn't this includes all CEC applicants (since CEC requires previous work experience in Canada)

No, CEC is all about PAST work experience. Some CEC applicants no longer have the job they apply for CEC with, or any job. Those people are likely to get bumped once Express Entry comes into effect. I'm not saying they'll get rejected, but they will definitely get processed later...

 

[vipsv]

I am an international student. I will be having 1 year experience in Canada by March 2015. I have 3 years pgwp. So to apply under cec, do i require LMIA next year? Please do not include topics related to people who hasn't been to Canada yet.

 

[ZingyDNA]

I am an international student. I will be having 1 year experience in Canada by March 2015. I have 3 years pgwp. So to apply under cec, do i require LMIA next year? Please do not include topics related to people who hasn't been to Canada yet.

Unless they change the rules, CEC won't require LMIA.

 

[mf4361]

No, CEC is all about PAST work experience. Some CEC applicants no longer have the job they apply for CEC with, or any job. Those people are likely to get bumped once Express Entry comes into effect. I'm not saying they'll get rejected, but they will definitely get processed later...

Thanks for correction.

One thing striked me just earlier: CIC have been using the word 'Job Offer' all the time referring on being advantageous in selection process. Do they mean actual new job offers, or a job itself is included here?
(It might be early to ask this question though :)

 

[andrewhl]

I just wonder what will effect to those with current LMO working offer.
I just got my working permit through LMO stream and it will valid to 2016 sept
Don't know if CIC will ask me to get a new LMIA when I am abt to apply next year.
Then it will be a hell of waiting again.

 

[gerard961]

Guys if you look at the NZ Express Entry system. And take a look at the old years selection Data. You can see that everyone (Not 100% sure) that have a job offer get an ITA (Invitation to Apply) and Everyone (Not 100%) that have gained work experience or education in NZ have a very high number of points (This is normal, it is just a calculation of points) gets an ITA.
So I think that by having a Post-Grad from Canada or Work experience or Having a job in Canada will give you high points and you will be selected.

 

[tony.johnston88]

Can someone clarify this for me: will CEC and FSW cease to exist once EE comes into play (even if this takes a couple of months)?

 

[yixiaop26]

One more question..
I will be having one year experience by March 2015. So to apply under CEC category, Do i need to have LMIA.?

probably need, but free charge for LMIA as I know . but still need wait the final news,

 

[maniac2403]

Can someone clarify this for me: will CEC and FSW cease to exist once EE comes into play (even if this takes a couple of months)?

In my opinion only, EE will only waive the eligibility for certain classes of PR. It should not affect the typical channels for PR applications. I might be way off base.