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torontob

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I just received my GCMS. It says that the Security and Criminality is remaining. My question is it has been more than 6 months now. Why it is taking longer than normal? Any ideas, guidance or help are highly appreciated. Thanks.
It probably doesn't say remaining. Are you sure you are not paraphrasing some important wording? (Can be sure when you post all notes)

Anyhow, if you think it hasn't started then it will after eligibility is done. Can be seen once you post all notes.

If by remaining you mean Started and not finished yet then you should know it can take up to 18 months for security in some cases. (Won't know without seeing your full notes).
 

djmehta33

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It probably doesn't say remaining. Are you sure you are not paraphrasing some important wording? (Can be sure when you post all notes)

Anyhow, if you think it hasn't started then it will after eligibility is done. Can be seen once you post all notes.

If by remaining you mean Started and not finished yet then you should know it can take up to 18 months for security in some cases. (Won't know without seeing your full notes).
Yeah I mean it says "Not Started". The question is why is it taking longer for Eligibility? I was in the UK for few years and then I came back to India. Is that the reason of time taken? I have applied for an EE, are you sure it can take upto 18 months in EE too?
 
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hi,
I am the SA residing in India, PA residing in Canada, received the PR. I ordered gcms and got my notes today, it says the following. I need to know what to do next from my end. My notes 11 says "documents set for review IELTS"
and "case parked due to the following : Language test for spouse."
 

Farahnaz11

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App. Filed.......
March 08 2019
AOR Received.
April 10 2019
Med's Request
May 1 2019
Med's Done....
May 6 2019
hi,
I am the SA residing in India, PA residing in Canada, received the PR. I ordered gcms and got my notes today, it says the following. I need to know what to do next from my end. My notes 11 says "documents set for review IELTS"
and "case parked due to the following : Language test for spouse."
How do we order gcms it asked for department I didn’t get what to typed in two spots
 

djmehta33

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One thing that I have noticed in my report notes is that there is no action or activity happened in 2019. I cannot see any dates with year as 2019. Any ideas why I there wouldn't be any action for year 2019?
 

Immigration_guru

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Apr 26, 2019
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India
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
0601
One thing that I have noticed in my report notes is that there is no action or activity happened in 2019. I cannot see any dates with year as 2019. Any ideas why I there wouldn't be any action for year 2019?
When did you submit your application
 

eninevo

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Apr 4, 2018
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Dear Friends/Seniors,

I submitted my e-APR in April 2018, its been more than a year, no updated. Ordered my GCMS notes and needed your help with the following;

ASSESSMENT Section says
Eligibility: Passed
Security:
HRIV:
Criminality:
Passed
Org Crime:
Medical:
Passed
Misrepresentation:
Info Sharing:
Complete
Other Reqs:
Final:

In ADMISSIBILITIES (page 37) section it is BLANK, withheld to section 15(1) and 19(1), and on next blank page on top right corner s 15(1) is written.

EE Profile says:
Review of eligibility: We are reviewing whether you meet the eligibility requirements.
Review of additional documents: We are reviewing the additional documents you provided.
Background check. We will send you a message if we need more information.

In GCMS notes:
Only Eligibility, Criminality, Medical and Info sharing is complete/passed. Rest are empty.
In EE Profile:
Eligibility is still in progress and also backgroaund checks

Please advise does it mean I am stuck at security and everything else is passed and fine? Or there is something wrong as EE profile and GCMS notes dont match! Very confused and scared!

Thanks very much in advance!
Kind Regards
 
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priyankbhojak88

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Jan 28, 2017
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PEI, Canada
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
New Delhi Visa Office
NOC Code......
2171
Nomination.....
19-12-2018
AOR Received.
20-01-2019
IELTS Request
19-08-2017
File Transfer...
01-03-2019
Med's Done....
04-01-2019
Passport Req..
22-07-2019
VISA ISSUED...
25-07-2019
LANDED..........
04-09-2019
Hello Friends/Seniors,

Firstly I would like to thank you all and @legalfalcon for all kind of help.

I have received my GCMS Today and everything seems in order. But I got RR in stationary questions (Previous visa refusal) Please take a look and let me know if anything is required to be done from my end or should wait, I have attached my GCMS notes in below link.

GCMS: https://imgur.com/a/CrP4tbh

I had previous USA B1/BA and Canada TRV refusal previously. I have answered YES for those visa rejection questions and also provided an explanation for the refusal. I would really appreciate if anyone explains to me

What NDVO will check in my file now?
Will it delay my process due to this RR?
Will they check all my Old Visa related document for the US and Canada and then they will make a decision?
Is there anything which I need to take care of or raise to CIC or should wait?
Any other pages of notes which I need to check?

My Eligibility, Security is not yet started but Criminality is passed as per notes.

Thanks a lot in advance.
 
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legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello Friends/Seniors,

Firstly I would like to thank you all and @legalfalcon for all kind of help.

I have received my GCMS Today and everything seems in order. But I got RR in stationary questions (Previous visa refusal) Please take a look and let me know if anything is required to be done from my end or should wait, I have attached my GCMS notes in below link.

GCMS: https://imgur.com/a/CrP4tbh

I had previous USA B1/BA and Canada TRV refusal previously. I have answered YES for those visa rejection questions and also provided an explanation for the refusal. I would really appreciate if anyone explains to me

What NDVO will check in my file now?
Will it delay my process due to this RR?
Will they check all my Old Visa related document for the US and Canada and then they will make a decision?
Is there anything which I need to take care of or raise to CIC or should wait?
Any other pages of notes which I need to check?

My Eligibility, Security is not yet started but Criminality is passed as per notes.

Thanks a lot in advance.
First off, there is nothing to worry. A RR does not mean that there is some issue with your application.

I wrote an exhaustive post on RR, which I am re-posting here:

Understanding “Review Required”*

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.
In case of statutory questions, if answered in affirmative, the case analyst is marking it for the officer. If your visa refusal was not due to misrepresentation or fraud, you need not worry and all applicants who answer the statutory question in affirmative, will have RR.
 
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torontob

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Dear Friends/Seniors,

I submitted my e-APR in April 2018, its been more than a year, no updated. Ordered my GCMS notes and needed your help with the following;

ASSESSMENT Section says
Eligibility: Passed
Security:
HRIV:
Criminality:
Passed
Org Crime:
Medical:
Passed
Misrepresentation:
Info Sharing:
Complete
Other Reqs:
Final:

In ADMISSIBILITIES (page 37) section it is BLANK, withheld to section 15(1) and 19(1), and on next blank page on top right corner s 15(1) is written.

EE Profile says:
Review of eligibility: We are reviewing whether you meet the eligibility requirements.
Review of additional documents: We are reviewing the additional documents you provided.
Background check. We will send you a message if we need more information.

In GCMS notes:
Only Eligibility, Criminality, Medical and Info sharing is complete/passed. Rest are empty.
In EE Profile:
Eligibility is still in progress and also backgroaund checks

Please advise does it mean I am stuck at security and everything else is passed and fine? Or there is something wrong as EE profile and GCMS notes dont match! Very confused and scared!

Thanks very much in advance!
Kind Regards
Eligibility is NOT passed yet. It has passed what I call Level 1 but Level 2 is left. Once CBSA gets back to CIC with your security check opinion then they will fully pass your eligibility and you will get asked for Medical again (if you have done one now and it expires) or you will get passport request for COPR.
 
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eninevo

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Eligibility is NOT passed yet. It has passed what I call Level 1 but Level 2 is left. Once CBSA gets back to CIC with your security check opinion then they will fully pass your eligibility and you will get asked for Medical again (if you have done one now and it expires) or you will get passport request for COPR.
Thanks very much for your kind guidance. Appreciate it!

One last question, can you please advise, whether my security has even started yet?