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[iSaidGoodDay]

Meh, it’s already hard for someone in status to make a living. Being out of status where you only get shit jobs, have no chance for a PR anymore and can’t use the benefits. They will probably give up sooner or later. Sucks for the pets though.

What you are saying makes sense and I see similar response from other forum members too. I hope it turns out this way and they leave organically.

 

[Lord_Tony]

Believe it or not, thats exactly the reason I did not immediately move to Oz. I wanted to go there with a job. I interviewed with few companies, sitting in India itself. Qantas (they were ready to hire me), WestPac (they ghosted) and then my current employer. They hired me for India but I knew I could switch team in an year.

Entering Oz job market by study or directly resets your career. I wanted to avoid it.

I can fully get what you say and can imagine your struggle if you were not willing to take those entry level roles
- Core techies or Architects are not well received. Aussie companies have already outsourced most coding work to Offshore (India & the Philippines), even if there is a rare role the pay is extremely poor. The reason is there is no innovation or FAANG like organizations, most jobs are implementing and maintaining systems. There is a small startup culture but there also the rush is to offshore the coding since most owners are aware of the lack of local tech talent.
- The demand is high for generalists, people managers and business interacting functionals.
- The Largest IT employer is the Government (Federal, State - Canadian equivalent of province & Cities - Sydney, Brisbane). Federal jobs are strictly only citizens, often even dual citizens are barred, depending on the role there is a need for clearance evaluations many of which take a few years to get, these are done by the RCMP, CSIS equivalents of Australia. The Federal projects need some techies. The others state and cities take PRs but will look for loads of local Oz experience, there most coding is done offshore. The sick part is most of these government roles are for programs which run for multiple decades at a snails pace, will need copious amount of compliance records. Both of these will make restless most of us who like getting things done. Only saving grace is the governments pay is humongous at least 50% more and often twice as private, loads of vacation 20-30 days Vacation, 10 days Sick Leave, after 5 years additional week or two of long service leave etc...
- Worldwide only in Consulting firms and big4, is one made to perform song and dance in coffee culture/wine and dine etc. before recruitment. However In Australia almost every private firm does it even for Team lead roles, and bar becomes higher for mid-management and for leadership make take months to years of such courtship. My MBA has loads of such assignments to do this greasing and lip service.
It is not a bad place if you are into their way of working and have good network of folks to grant you favors. Which means you have to willing to grant favors to others also. Work hours are shorter and less intense than USA. In Canada and USA I have seen clan favoritism which is not very common in Australia.

 

[Hopeful007]

I'm saying a per country visa cap sounds like a bad idea. I'm not saying we should do nothing.

Protesting your local government to raise the bar on DLI accreditation sounds like a good idea to me.

There are way too many local governments, stakeholders etc. It's just much easier to pressure the federal government to put hard caps and then tweak if necessary.

There is really no shortage in many sectors of the economy. It's all about regulations and so on. StatCan proved how there is no shortage for most jobs.

 

[Emil1]

Results: Rounds of invitations


Ministerial Instructions respecting invitations to apply for permanent residence under the Express Entry system #265– September 26, 2023


See full text of Ministerial Instruction


No Program Specified


Number of invitations issued: 3,000Footnote *


Rank required to be invited to apply: 3,000 or above


Date and time of round: September 26, 2023 at 13:38:55 UTC


CRS score of lowest-ranked candidate invited: 504


Tie-breaking rule: September 11, 2023 at 20:24:18 UTC


If more than one candidate has the lowest score, the cut-off is based on the date and time they submitted their Express Entry profiles.



CRS score distribution of candidates in the Express Entry pool as of September 26, 2023

CRS score range	Number of candidates
601-1200	544
501-600	2,923
451-500	58,645
491-500	3,727
481-490	8,544
471-480	19,143
461-470	15,048
451-460	12,183
401-450	54,225
441-450	11,205
431-440	11,590
421-430	9,810
411-420	10,478
401-410	11,142
351-400	60,843
301-350	31,532
0-300	5,288
Total	214,000

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

Results: Rounds of invitations


Ministerial Instructions respecting invitations to apply for permanent residence under the Express Entry system #265– September 26, 2023


See full text of Ministerial Instruction


No Program Specified


Number of invitations issued: 3,000Footnote *


Rank required to be invited to apply: 3,000 or above


Date and time of round: September 26, 2023 at 13:38:55 UTC


CRS score of lowest-ranked candidate invited: 504


Tie-breaking rule: September 11, 2023 at 20:24:18 UTC


If more than one candidate has the lowest score, the cut-off is based on the date and time they submitted their Express Entry profiles.



CRS score distribution of candidates in the Express Entry pool as of September 26, 2023

CRS score range	Number of candidates
601-1200	544
501-600	2,923
451-500	58,645
491-500	3,727
481-490	8,544
471-480	19,143
461-470	15,048
451-460	12,183
401-450	54,225
441-450	11,205
431-440	11,590
421-430	9,810
411-420	10,478
401-410	11,142
351-400	60,843
301-350	31,532
0-300	5,288
Total	214,000

It is crazy how there are 2-3 million TRVs, but only 214,000 people in the EE pool. Assuming half of these in the pool are outlanders, it is very small in size.

 

[Psyoptica]

Not all of them are single dudes. A lot of them have families, children etc so 1 PR on average equals 4 people

 

[GandiBaat]

Why did you ever think they will ever implement any kind of country cap?

 

[GandiBaat]

Canada is going in a rather interesting dimension. They will perhaps continue to have "open for all" rounds. And they will also have specialized rounds with possibly lower cut off to attract the right skills they need.

The goal seems to be to fill up the country (Century initiative) and to fill in skill gaps (transport and medical).

And LPC is playing some kind of strategic game. They know immigrants tend to favour left liberals so why not fill the country with more immigrants. Helps the businesses. Helps them. Avoids a Japan like situation.

 

[abidm6]

Hi guys need guidance regarding Creating Express entry profile, in work experience, should I mention all experiences? as I have 2 experiences but out which 1 experience is of 3.3 years (this experience matches 100% to primary NOC) and other experience is of 1 year (this match only 50% of primary NOC), so should I mention this 1-year experience too while selecting the same NOC for this experience too? will this has any effect after invitation?

 

[RSub]

Hi guys need guidance regarding Creating Express entry profile, in work experience, should I mention all experiences? as I have 2 experiences but out which 1 experience is of 3.3 years (this experience matches 100% to primary NOC) and other experience is of 1 year (this match only 50% of primary NOC), so should I mention this 1-year experience too while selecting the same NOC for this experience too? will this has any effect after invitation?

Mention all the experiences. You can choose one primary NOC. You can have multiple NOC's but only one primary NOC that will give you points.

 

[Hopeful007]

Nightmare of a government, that's what this is. We need to go out protesting. Otherwise, these nut jobs won't stop.

 

[abidm6]

Mention all the experiences. You can choose one primary NOC. You can have multiple NOC's but only one primary NOC that will give you points.

thanks for your reply. as i am confused, as my primary NOC is Data scientist and my current job title is also Data Analyst, but this job covers only 50% of this NOC JD's, no other NOC relate to this job. so confused if i should select same NOC for this job to? and if i do that and after invitation they didnt count this experience, will it effect application? keep in mind this job is the 4th year so express has no points for this job but FSW has.

 

[RSub]

thanks for your reply. as i am confused, as my primary NOC is Data scientist and my current job title is also Data Analyst, but this job covers only 50% of this NOC JD's, no other NOC relate to this job. so confused if i should select same NOC for this job to? and if i do that and after invitation they didnt count this experience, will it effect application? keep in mind this job is the 4th year so express has no points for this job but FSW has.

Did you check 21223 - Database Analysts and Data Administrators?

 

[Lord_Tony]

Did you check 21223 - Database Analysts and Data Administrators?

Nah 21223 is for System Administrators e.g. Oracle SQL, SAP BASIS Experts etc... Even the Data Migration experts also will fall in that. No Data scientist is different.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

Nightmare of a government, that's what this is. We need to go out protesting. Otherwise, these nut jobs won't stop.

Recent Permanent Residents against Immigration! That'll be a sight.