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Stranger Friendly

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May 2, 2013
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Mississauga
Category........
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London
Guys, those who somehow not able to make it this time, Don't get upset and work on other options.

Below is the story, I have found it on other thread! Just sharing here!

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/index.php?action=search2;params=YWR2YW5jZWR8J3wwfCJ8dG9waWN8J3wxOTgzOXwifHNob3dfY29tcGxldGV8J3wxfCJ8YnJkfCd8NHwifHN1YmplY3Rfb25seXwnfHwifHNvcnR8J3xyZWxldmFuY2V8Inxzb3J0X2RpcnwnfGRlc2N8InxzZWFyY2h8J3xwcm9mZXNzaW9uYWwgZW5naW5lZXI=;start=30


MUST READ THIS STORY

Why Ghulam Rasool, New Immigrant To Canada, Is Calling It Quits!
By Binoy Thomas

The following is a gut-wrenching story of how the dreams of one immigrant to Canada came to naught. Ghulam Rasool is a Mechanical Engineer (1976) with M. E. in Production (1979) and Industrial Engineering (1980) from India with immediate family on both sides of the border. Before he migrated to Canada, induced by the promises held forth by Canada´s immigration policy, he had picked up years of experience in machine building industry.

He recently contacted us with his story that he wanted to tell the people through Voice. It was a sort of a last minute ´gift´ to thousands of others who suffer silently, having been denied in similar fashion opportunity that they sought in Canada.

When I received his email, I wanted to meet with him not just to empathize with him, but also offer my congratulations on a bold decision that many stay away from - to talk about it openly without shame or fear. Ghulam Rasool is going back home, most probably to Mumbai, and by the time you read his account of his five years in Canada, he will be thousands of miles away, the land that he once held dear. He and his family left town on May 14.

He wrote to Voice: "I may not be able to access my mail anymore now. There is not time left for me. My phone is gone and I am in a basement living on Bread and Water literally, but waiting for the next three days to go by so that 14th dawns. Thanks for taking interest in my case. I am aware of you doing a lot for bettering the lot of immigrants. I would like you to somehow reach this to the Prime Minister and compel him to reply in the Newspapers. As a media you have done well, but probably there are no takers. Good luck to you all. My best wishes for you to prosper here in Canada. Insha Allah, should conditions improve, it will be good for all. The only advantage of Canada is its very little population. But the narrow mind does more harm!" I can certainly bring Rasool´s story to you the people, but the Prime Minister? Right now it just might be a tad inconvenient for Martin to be reading the sad tale of a single immigrant!

We all know that Rasool´s case is not unique or rare. Among the immigrant community, especially those who come with decent skill sets and qualifications, frustration is building up. Something is drastically wrong with Canada´s immigration system. At least for the qualified immigrant, this is proving to be a passport to wilderness. Rasool says that he knows of other families who have quietly decided to move back or go to other destinations to survive. Ghulam Rasool says he realized how it´s to live a nightmare. Many in our country, (that include politicians and bureaucrats and of course, those power brokers such as the regulatory bodies and the unions, are either unaware or reluctant to admit this deplorable state). Mercifully, there is some real authoritative statistics coming out of such independent bodies like the Conference Board of Canada on how this country wastes immigrant talent.

Rasool says, "Many articles have been written before. Nothing will come out of this as well, but please try and reach this to as many people as possible." While we wish Rasool and his family the very best in his old/new homeland, here´s his account of the great Canadian dream gone bad. It would be an understatement to say he is critical of Canada, but when you have seen your whole life unraveling before you, thanks to a system that´s exclusionary, then who are we to nit-pick? The least we can do is to let him blow his steam, hoping that someone somewhere would be moved by yet one more story to do something about it.


CANADA - A NIGHTMARE COME TRUE!!
By Ghulam Rasool

Enough is enough! It´s never too late to call it quits. Having realized this after 5 long years, I am going back to my country and for good. The ruling equation here is that while immigrants build Canada, Canada batters and shatters them! The very people who come here drawn by attractively designed websites or on the ´invitations´ of immigration consultants´ invitations, eager to build a new life while contributing to this country are destroyed and consumed by it!! What an irony!!

Having moved around in this country for long, I have hardly come across recent skilled professional who is happy professionally, barring a very miniscule few, who have just ridden on their luck! Others have resorted to unethical means to get rich quick in. Skill, talent, knowledge, wisdom, hard work, honesty, discipline, loyalty etc., seem to have no place here! All that matters is how many dollars you can sponge out of the other, and how soon! This is the only measure of success. Rest is all lip service!

I had brought with me as my money, a sum of just over $ 25000. When my wife came, we had sold off our property and managed another $ 35000. I had tried my level best to get a decent job and in the meanwhile, had lived on survival jobs. My earnings were so far, close to $ 122,000 in these five long years. That works out to 147,000 as money generated by me. Plus the 35000 $ which is $1,82,000 in 5 years. From all this what do I have now? Just about $ 3,000 and an old car that would fetch me about $ 750 at best. Thus $ 3750 to pay for tickets! Go back to where I came from and start all over again! And with no money at all, a beggar in my own country from Day One!

What does this mean? Even with the most frugal ways of living, spending on just the barest of bare minimum, one still cannot survive. A proper job is needed! And where is it?

Let us analyze a few things. They say Canada needs technical personnel!

What did I do here? I sent in over 10000 resumes, attended at least 8 different HRDC conducted programmes, each spanning over a few weeks, made about 50,000 telephone calls for jobs, of which well over

49,000 were just voice mails that never cared to return the call, made cold calls to over 3000 establishments, spent over half my time on the Internet, did over 30 different odd jobs to survive, volunteered my services for 4 months and applied to at least 10 Universities and Colleges for a course. For reasons known to many, all drew blanks! There is really no place and no way for new immigrants to settle here. All this country desires is to squeeze out the last cent an immigrant brings with him and then dump him!

And Canada wants more skilled immigrants to come here!!

It is said that there is a serious shortage of good teachers in Ontario / Canada.

The lady in the family I share accommodation with has over 17 years of experience as a very renowned teacher.

She had been told to do her entire teaching course all over again! Having passed TOEFL, etc. with over 95% marks, she has not been able to get into any University since the past two years, due to too many students wanting enrolment. In the meantime, she has been volunteering her services for a school. Good and Quality work for FREE! In return she is not even allowed to use the school bus, due to Insurance reasons! So she walks the 4.5 kilometers each way, come snow or rain! Already she has slipped and fallen many times, but it is her sincerity that makes her go. What if she meets with an accident? She will not be able to afford the expenses. Will the school reimburse even one dollar? If she dies, it will cost the family 5 or 10,000 dollars in funeral expenses!

Family grieved and in debt, but country richer! Make money in every way is the country´s policy. An immigrant cannot afford insurance so he cannot afford to die! This is a trap.

But yet many of these exceptional teachers are not allowed to teach in Ontario or will not get any job however hard they try, because they are not certified!

Why this certification? To ensure that they measure UP to the very high standards of Ontario Teachers! And what are these high standards?

A Teacher´s capability can be estimated by the qualities in the students! It is on record that 2 out of 3 students of the high schools in Ontario cannot even measure up to the basic reading and writing levels! Spelling and Grammar are considered unnecessary here! What is going to become of these poor students who after so many years of teaching by these high standard Ontario Teachers are not even able to read?

One can see and observe the absolute lack of respect and manners by these students who have been taught by these High Standard Ontario certified teachers. They have no respect for elders, parents, lack decency in behaviour, use the f. word at least ten times in every sentence, talk rudely to everyone, and do all what is not expected of them!! They may be low in manners, but they are high on drugs, sexual knowledge, girlfriends and boyfriends, and many other activities that do not form part of any school curriculum! Growing academically, acquiring knowledge, returning to society what they can, has no meaning in their lives!

Canada was rated as the number ONE country to live in not so long ago! It has fallen very low now. Law and order is supposed to be their strength! Yet, with all these top quality police force, there are shocking revelations on racism, brutality, and corruption. High tech systems can detect and track down a car parked at a mall for just 10 minutes over the scheduled time, but a child fast asleep at home, gets kidnapped and finally murdered goes completely baffles the experts.

Canada is supposed offer free medical care. This is today in dire straits. A slight toothache for me resulted in an expense of $1880 as the dentist did everything that can be done to a tooth and relieved me of all this money. And, finally my tooth itself! And in many cases, one visit means the patient is roped in for life! And if he has insurance, then the dentist becomes a millionaire in no time! It´s good to be insured! That´s why Insurance is the biggest business here!

If health care is free, how come eyes, teeth, and bones are not always covered?

The legal system is supposed to be very good here. But here we have all types of lawyers guaranteeing that traffic tickets, penalties, etc. can be waived! Or else it is free! How is such a guarantee possible! And these services are advertised!

There are thousands of Doctors with fantastic experience from other countries here in Canada picking up garbage, driving taxicabs and delivering pizza! Can they not be used better since there is a shortage of Doctors here? Are they worth NOTHING?

Canada is supposed to be a place with no corruption! The scandals and scams that we hear about would make the most corrupt leaders elsewhere in the world blush! They may want to take a lesson or two!

They say employment practices are fair and of a very high calibre here. Yet we see very large organizations - such as in Power Generation, National Airlines, and several others enveloped in the worst scandals in management and mishandling of public funds. Then they get declared as bankrupt! All tax payer´s money. A very large Public owned corporation has a very high minimum wage, combined with a huge static workforce. It cannot even bear its own weight! Then they want to cut down work force. To do so, they offer several millions of dollars to their chosen top executives to accept as severance!

A third or fourth string hockey player gets over a million-dollar salary! A Nuclear Engineer gets 6.85 dollars an hour for 30 hours a week (if he or she is lucky) to support a family! A PhD in Microbiology, who was head of an Institution doing Clinical Microbiology is a cashier at Food Basics for the past two years! In spite of doing prescribed courses here, she still finds no takers! Not even interviews! And one reads in the papers that in Manitoba and elsewhere, Pig Farmers(!!!) are conducting laboratory trials and analysis, as there are no certified analysts! There is a shortage of such people. This proves that Canada regards a ranch raised Pig Farmer a better analyst than someone who had studied, personally analyzed for years and finally rose through the ranks to be a Head of an Institution with 20 years experience! Yet, Pig Farmers are accepted, Doctors rejected!! Reason: Pig Farmer Canadian, Doctor Not!

All in all, this immigration business (racket) to Canada is only a very clever method to get skilled servants to work for free and pay for the people here who want to only enjoy life without doing anything!

There are far too many people doing nothing but prefer to live as parasites. Canada wants these people to enjoy even more. And a skilled immigrant can slog and slave, but he will not be allowed to get into the system. The irony is that the very reasons that brought the candidate in, are the very reasons that will keep him out of work, as soon as he gets in!

In fact the system here ensures that talent, hard work and skill, do not get rewarded. Many professionals are returning after a futile struggle and many do not want to come here anymore. These ´pleasant´ experiences of professionals are being made known to the rest of the world! It will be a sad day when only pizza delivery boys and bar girls will populate this country. Will that be an advanced country then?

Who will care for these skilled people and their plight here? Does anybody know what they are going through? The former Premier, Eves, just before relinquishing his office, declared that if the people vote for him again, then he would do something to solve this problem. Nobody believed him because he had done nothing while he was premier. And now we have another Premier saying the same thing. And so does the Prime Minister! Are these not gravely important issues? At least when compared to gay marriages, lesbian clubs, school buses, or marijuana laws?
 

islandbabe

Champion Member
Mar 26, 2011
2,097
165
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Sorry Sachin, I see their point....right away the job title is a problem. Consultants of this nature do not fall under this Noc and even the job details do not firmly outline that you are a programmer, no coding, writing scripts etc

P.S. please note I am not a comp programmer myself.....just my humble opinion.

sachin9183 said:
Job Title : - Technical Consultant

o Analyze user requirements, procedures, and problems to automate processing or to improve existing computer systems
o Write detailed description of user needs, program functions, and steps required to Develop or modify computer programs
o Review computer system capabilities, workflow, and scheduling limitations to determine if requested program or program change is possible within existing system
o Prepare flowcharts and diagrams to specify in detail operations to be performed by equipment and computer programs and operations to be performed by personnel in system.
o Review design ideas and prototype with systems analyst and software engineer
o Develop visual components of system prototype
o Prepare test plan based on the Systems Requirements Specification
o Inspect test results for accuracy and completeness
o Prepare Systems Requirements Specification
o Maintain a log of all Change Requests
o Train the users in joint application development techniques


Apart from this main experience letter, which is my current occupation, I used 4 more IT experience letters, out of this I used NOC code of 0211
for 2 jobs and 2174 for 2 jobs, but the job duties are almost similar.

I dont think I can now change the Job title to Programmer Analyst !!
 

Huangxyqjy

Star Member
Apr 15, 2013
192
19
Category........
Visa Office......
Beijing
NOC Code......
1112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-05-2013
Med's Request
01-11-2013
Med's Done....
15-11-2013
Passport Req..
21-11-2013
VISA ISSUED...
29-11-2013
LANDED..........
08-08-2014
lvtruong said:
Go to the spreadsheet and click on "CIC Chart" tab.
Thx but I still cannot find it in my iPad. :'(
 

farazkapadia

Star Member
Jun 6, 2013
147
6
Toronto
Visa Office......
New Delhi
AOR Received.
11-06-2016
dan84 said:
Hello guys and gals,
I have some good news, my CC has been charged $1,063.66 just few moments ago.
I feel very relief and happy now ;D
Please update my info on the timeline doc.

Good luck to all!
Hi dan84, i just want to know whether your cc got charged first or you got an email of acceptance from CIC with file number first..
 

Adrenalineforu

Hero Member
Mar 11, 2012
714
60
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
0211
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
31-May'13
Doc's Request.
Meds, RPRF and PPs
AOR Received.
01-Oct'13
Med's Request
03-Dec'13
Med's Done....
05-Dec'13
Passport Req..
03-Dec'13
VISA ISSUED...
04-Feb'14
LANDED..........
09-May'14
@ Stranger Friendly - Read a couple stories on the CIC website itself and about refugees. Not everyone is lucky.
 

jay2174

Star Member
Jun 25, 2013
60
10
Could you still amend your jd, to include a line which says that you wrote code? i think that's very key to 2174. Your JD below is spot-on for 2173 though, software engineers. Truth be told, I don't see the difference bet. software engineers, and computer programmers....

sachin9183 said:
Job Title : - Technical Consultant

o Analyze user requirements, procedures, and problems to automate processing or to improve existing computer systems
o Write detailed description of user needs, program functions, and steps required to Develop or modify computer programs
o Review computer system capabilities, workflow, and scheduling limitations to determine if requested program or program change is possible within existing system
o Prepare flowcharts and diagrams to specify in detail operations to be performed by equipment and computer programs and operations to be performed by personnel in system.
o Review design ideas and prototype with systems analyst and software engineer
o Develop visual components of system prototype
o Prepare test plan based on the Systems Requirements Specification
o Inspect test results for accuracy and completeness
o Prepare Systems Requirements Specification
o Maintain a log of all Change Requests
o Train the users in joint application development techniques


Apart from this main experience letter, which is my current occupation, I used 4 more IT experience letters, out of this I used NOC code of 0211
for 2 jobs and 2174 for 2 jobs, but the job duties are almost similar.

I dont think I can now change the Job title to Programmer Analyst !!
 

Adrenalineforu

Hero Member
Mar 11, 2012
714
60
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
0211
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
31-May'13
Doc's Request.
Meds, RPRF and PPs
AOR Received.
01-Oct'13
Med's Request
03-Dec'13
Med's Done....
05-Dec'13
Passport Req..
03-Dec'13
VISA ISSUED...
04-Feb'14
LANDED..........
09-May'14
Nizam06024 said:
One Question....even though ur experience did not match NOC Code 2174...they still issued you a UCI number?? thts strange !!!
See the point Nizam. The answer lies within your question.
 

amar31282

Star Member
May 1, 2013
124
1
123
Mohali
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-06-2013
Doc's Request.
17-06-2013
IELTS Request
17-06-2013
sunlight11 said:
Well, there is no mention of "Coding" in the duties... but the NOC says ... Programmers ...
I second that...
 

OperaPhantom

Full Member
Jun 10, 2013
44
3
Category........
Visa Office......
Accra
NOC Code......
2263
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15/05/2013
Maheshnep said:
Hello ,

Come on. Don't run away. Show your cc's record. Plz. prove apprehensive to all of us. Come on dear.
I seriously think when somebody does not wish to carve him/herself in the mold of of "oh I desperately am waiting for my cc to be charged" or all the analysis and speculations prevalent in d forum, he is quickly labelled. This guy's been called a troll, fake etc , y? Cos he wasn't registered in d spreadsheet and his claim dosent tally with the ist in,ist treated thingie that everybody believes.
Frankly I think its rude and makes people scared to post. All the other people that claimed their cc was charged y didn't d doubters doubt him?
He dosent owe anybody proof, afterall this is a free forum. U take away what is neccessary.
 

islandbabe

Champion Member
Mar 26, 2011
2,097
165
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Sachin, it may be useful if we ask Dan84 to post the content of his job letters, if he is so inclined.
 

husman

Hero Member
May 27, 2013
341
42
124
Jeddah
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
3143
App. Filed.......
07-06-2013
Doc's Request.
CC Charged 21-08-2013 PER Received 27-08-2013
AOR Received.
24-10-2013
File Transfer...
24-10-2013
Med's Request
23-01-2014, RPRF Request 23-01-2014
Med's Done....
12-02-2014 Meds received 28-02-2014
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
23-01-2014, PCC request 23-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
PCC, RPRF, MR Slips, PP sent 10 am 04-03-2014
LANDED..........
Landed on 31st Jan 2015 waiting for PRcard
pharmacistfarhan said:
NO.......NO.. No, don't feel dejected. Consider the example of Marta. I strongly suggest you to just sign the fee payment form and send the package back to CIO ASAP. You will just have to pay courier charges.
imm 5620 requires sign for card holder rite not applicant...i got my friend to pay for it so she signed it for me...sign of cardholder not applicant???
 

scotchy007

Hero Member
Apr 24, 2012
280
44
Category........
NOC Code......
2243
App. Filed.......
12-07-2013
Med's Request
28-02-2014
Passport Req..
17-04-2014
VISA ISSUED...
28-04-2014
My fifty cents on this issue is that most people come here to look at the spreadsheet and get an idea on how CIC is progressing in FSW1 8). If everybody was just lurking and not putting in information, where would we all be.

So, I have no apologies saying that I really don't care for lurkers who read and don't post their info so it can benefit everyone else. And they can take a hike.

I'm only sorry that there isn't a way to limit access to the sheet and provide it based on post counts or posting your profile or some such thing.

That's my rant for the day. All done. On to other things..............
 

Thegame

Newbie
Dec 8, 2012
8
0
loncan said:
A little touch of good news for me - parcelfarce have agreed to refund the money for the slow delivery of my application
All it took was persistence!
Parcelforce is rubbish. It took 8 days for my application to reach. And, thats from London!!
Im going to claim my money back as well.
whats the difderence between parcelforce and post? ??
 

dan84

Full Member
Dec 26, 2012
46
4
Toronto
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Santo Domingo
NOC Code......
2174 App. Sent......: 07-05-2013
App. Filed.......
09-05-2013, Fee Encashed..: 25-06-2013
AOR Received.
03-07-2013
File Transfer...
12-07-2013
Med's Request
15-10-2013
Med's Done....
17-10-2013 Med's Rcvd.....: 22-10-2013
Passport Req..
07-11-2013 Passport Sent..: 11-11-2013
VISA ISSUED...
13-11-2013
LANDED..........
04-04-2014
farazkapadia said:
Hi dan84, i just want to know whether your cc got charged first or you got an email of acceptance from CIC with file number first..
Hi,
I haven't received any emails from CIC yet. My CC just got charged today so I confirmed with my bank that the charge came from CIC.
I think this is consistent with pharmacistfarhan's experience.