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Oh, I found that it's not enough to write all items in Form B4.

Should I write the extra item in another Form B4?
 

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qiuchanghk said:
Oh, I found that it's not enough to write all items in Form B4.

Should I write the extra item in another Form B4?
Dear,
No you can't add another form B4.
You can attach a form B4A. And continue your list.

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Dear,
No you can't add another form B4.
You can attach a form B4A. And continue your list.

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Can I group all gold jewelries for ONE item? Then calculate all gold item for ONE value? and take a group picture for all gold?

and where Can I find Form B4A? coz just see Form B4 in the website
 

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Can I group all gold jewelries for ONE item? Then calculate all gold item for ONE value? and take a group picture for all gold?

and where Can I find Form B4A? coz just see Form B4 in the website
You can group them under jewelry. Do a single total.
Try to take separate pictures, group pictures of similar items is fine.

Form B4A:

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/forms-formulaires/b4a-eng.html

There is a pdf form in the start.

Hope it helps
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Friends pls advice,

My spouse is taking drugs for cholesterol. I bought prescribed drugs for next for months.How can i declare this.

Do I have to include it in the b4 form.
 

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aaji said:
Friends pls advice,

My spouse is taking drugs for cholesterol. I bought prescribed drugs for next for months.How can i declare this.

Do I have to include it in the b4 form.
Dear,
You will need a prescription, quantity of three months declared on the declaration card, before landing.

Hope it helps
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Form B4
Goods to Follow List &/or Goods Accompanying List
How to Fill them...

Hi all,

This is in response to the numerous PMs received requesting a copy of my Form B4. As I did it on the system & there's no way to 'save' that, I remain handicapped to forward it. Thus, this thread.

Here's what I did; & how u could do it...

ASSUMPTIONS/PROLOGUE:
a) The form B4A is an extension of the form B4 [which is the main one to file]. Writing the B4A is a similarly daunting task, thus can be avoided. I didn't.
b) As the form B4 contains 'only' 8 rows to fill the goods/items, use only 8 groups of things. How? Explained later.

WHAT U SHOULD CARRY?
U should make 2 copies of the form B4. One for the 'Goods Accompanying' & one for the 'Goods to Follow'. Alongwith the attachments. What's that? Here u go...

STEP-1:
a) Group all similar items into one list & thus make 8 lists.
b) Type these groups in Excel Sheets* [separate for each group]. Title each Sheet. And a Page No.
c) Enlist the Columns as: Sl.No | Item Description | Qty | Value (CAD) |
d) Total the Value, of each Excel Sheet.
e) Take printouts of each Excel Sheet in A4 size paper [2 copies].

*Eg. 1.Electronics, 2.Jewelries, 3.Clothing & Personal Effects, 4.Books & DVDs, 5.Gadgets & Mobile Phones, 6.Cutlery & Utensils, 7.Home Decorations & Murals AND 8.Linens & Drapers. [the Title Heading can vary as per your choice & requirement]

STEP-2:
a) Place all jewelry in Groups* & click Pictures [Must, else they'll not be accepted].
b) Title each Sheet. And put a Page No.
c) Take printouts of each Jewelry Group in A4 size paper [2 copies].
d) Make an Excel Sheet, for the Summary of the Jewelry Sheets. And place a Value against each group.
e) Total the Excel Sheet Value, in the end.

*Eg. 1.Rings, 2.Bangles & Bracelets, 3.Chains & Necklaces, 4.Cummerbunds, 5.Diamond Sets, 6.Ear-Rings & Pendants, 7.Head-Bands & Chokers etc. (each in one group/sheet). [the Title Heading can vary as per your choice & requirement]

STEP-3: [Major Step]
a) Fill-out the form B4, as per the 8 Title Headings AND write the Total Value of each Excel Sheet.
b) Make a box [by hand] at the End of the 8 rows' Value Column. Write the Total Value* of the Goods.
c) For the Name field, write the PA's name.
d) For the Importer's Address, write the Canadian Address.
e) For the Country of Export, write your Home Country's Name.
f) For the Goods to Follow BOX [below the list rows], "Tick" it.
g) At Page-2 of the form B4, "Tick" the Newcomer BOX.
h) Bottom of the Page-2, Sign, Date [the day of Landing] & Location [write your Landing POE's name].

*U must write the Total Value of the entire goods, as that's needed by the CBSA to log on their system.

STEP-4:
a) Print-it out [on regular A4 sheets], both pages [1 & 2] separately.
b) Take 2 printouts [one for the CBSA & one for U, with their Stamp, Sign & Date].
c) Staple all the Excel Sheets & the Jewelry Sheets, into each form B4.

NOTE:
1. Do not forget to take 2 printouts of each form B4 and its attachments. One will be kept by them.
2. Do not forget to take pics of the Jewelry. Else, they'll not accept it
*.
3. Do not forget to get it stamped on landing. Sometimes the BSO doesn't ask. It's our prerogative.

*In that case they'll ask u to get it by email & visit the airport the next day for stamping your B4. Though it can be done, but u get into unnecessary hassles, time & effort. And u just have 24 hrs to do so. Which is an avoidable tension. Isn't it?

WHERE TO FIND THE FORM?
http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/publications/forms-formulaires/b4-eng.pdf

Hope that helped.
Qorax
Thanks a lot Qorax, clearing customs was a breeze after following your instructions. Keep up the good work.

Regards.
 

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Thanks a lot Qorax, clearing customs was a breeze after following your instructions. Keep up the good work.

Regards.
Hi good to hear,
Did you declare true value of each item including jewelry. can we carry any amount of jewelry without any problem and duty etc?

thanks in advance!
 

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zbaby said:
Hi good to hear,
Did you declare true value of each item including jewelry. can we carry any amount of jewelry without any problem and duty etc?

thanks in advance!
The prices you declare are usually an estimate of how much you will get if you sell them now...
Like old books is 00.00
Even clothes maybe labelled with a very low price 10, 15, 20.
For jewelry you can use the prices on the original receipt or get valuation done by a gemologist.
You can take what you own and use without tax.

Hope it helps
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Thank you doc2015,

just wondering i cannot fill and save the form. is it always like this :(
 

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zbaby said:
Thank you doc2015,

just wondering i cannot fill and save the form. is it always like this :(
Dear
You should be able to fill and save it.
Are you using Adobe professional ?
You have to click file, "save as" if the save icon in the bar is not clickable.

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srd3936

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I have some specific questions about completing the B4 Form.

1) I am the Importer, correct? Is the Importer's address my address in the US or my new address in Canada?

2) The CDN value of Items listed on the B4 Form.... is that an actual value at time of purchase or an estimate of current CDN value or replacement CDN value?

3) Additional List of Goods area...?? Form BSF 186A is for what? Mover's Inventory is that my excel sheets and pictures or is that an official report from a professional moving company. Other would that be my excel sheets and pictures?

I always over-detail and so I am probably over-thinking the above questions, but..... Any help will be appreciated.

Cheers!
 

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srd3936 said:
I have some specific questions about completing the B4 Form.

1) I am the Importer, correct? Is the Importer's address my address in the US or my new address in Canada?
Your address in Canada.

2) The CDN value of Items listed on the B4 Form.... is that an actual value at time of purchase or an estimate of current CDN value or replacement CDN value?
It's the estimate of current value in CND

3) Additional List of Goods area...?? Form BSF 186A is for what? Mover's Inventory is that my excel sheets and pictures or is that an official report from a professional moving company. Other would that be my excel sheets and pictures?
186A is used if your list exceeds 8 items but less then 33.
If more then 33 then don't use 186A, just use excel sheets and mention there titles on 186 list
(here you also mention that excel sheets are attached.
Movers inventory is only if you use a moving company.
You don't need to check "Other".


I always over-detail and so I am probably over-thinking the above questions, but..... Any help will be appreciated.

Cheers!
Dear,
The answers to your queries are in red.

Hope it's helpful,
doc2015
 

srd3936

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Much Appreciated. Helps to have it clarified. I think we all over think this stuff because you are dealing with 'big brother government' which can have very random and arbitrary responses to simple things and this is soooo important to us.

Thanks again.