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scos said:
Yeah, salaries have been generally flat in the private sector for decades while prices have risen. Yet Harper brings in more legislation to help keep private sector salaries low and now is forcing down public sector to match. It would be better to set new standard levels of income and have public and private sectors at least meet that basic level at a minimum. I notice they aren't too keen to shave their own paycheques, expenses or perks. And the Conservative senators Harper appointed are showing just what the "Action Plan" really entails...
Don't forget the TFWs working at 15% less than regular Canadians. It's a race to the bottom.
 
costaudjoe said:
Don't forget the TFWs working at 15% less than regular Canadians. It's a race to the bottom.

The solution? More TFWs! :o
 
Anyone know if the public can force a referendum of no confidence on a majority government?
 
CanadianJeepGuy said:
More trouble ahead.....

https://blu173.mail.live.com/default.aspx?id=64855&rru=inbox#!/mail/ViewOfficePreview.aspx?messageid=0d4dfa0c-cfbc-11e2-8b15-00215ad6e23e&folderid=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001&attindex=1&cp=-1&attdepth=1&n=234353401

Bzzzt, bad link! Try again...
 
Sorry had to cut and paste......

A Conservative attack on union certification

Conservative MP, Blaine Calkins, has put forward a private members bill, Bill C-525, that would make it more difficult to organize workers in the federal sector into unions and easier to decertify workers.
The bill would remove card check union certification from the Canada Labour Code, Parliamentary Employment and Staff Relations Act, and Public Service Labour Relations Act.
Card check certification means that if 50% +1 of employees in a bargaining unit sign a union card, the Canadian Industrial Relations Board can automatically grant the union certification.

The new bill aims to make the certification process extremely difficult by:
1. Holding a representation vote after 45% of employees in the bargaining unit sign a union card.
Moving to a vote-based certification system gives employers a greater opportunity to scare and pressure workers to vote no. A card-based certification system works. It requires a majority of all workers in the bargaining unit to sign a card in favour of the union.
2. Requiring a majority of members in the bargaining unit to vote in favour of a union, rather than a majority of employees who vote.
With this change, any person who did not vote would effectively vote “no”. How is this democratic? How does this reflect workers’ choices? If we applied this same reasoning to the federal election in May 2011, almost no sitting MPs would have been elected. A normal, reasonable election process measures the percentage union support of those who vote.
3. In a decertification vote, the union, not those favouring decertification, would again have to receive a 50% +1 vote from the bargaining unit.*
This vote puts unions through perpetual recertification votes, re-opening the door to employer interference.
Let’s be clear, Bill C-525 is an outright attack on unions. The Harper government is intent on reducing the power and strength of workers’ collective voice. It follows other attacks like Bill C-377, which aims at subjecting all levels of our union to outrageous government regulation and control, and Bill C-60, which would insert the federal government, through a Treasury Board representative, into the collective bargaining process at Crown corporations like Canada Post.
Postal workers know the Harper government is not our friend. As workers, we need to stand united against these attacks on our rights. To this end, the union's executive will discuss Bill C-525 and determine what CUPW can do to counter this particular attack.
 
Here is the pay scale for the workers...

http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pubs_pol/hrpubs/coll_agre/fs/fs07-fra.asp#Toc107106458
 
GoonerClank said:
Here is the pay scale for the workers...

http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pubs_pol/hrpubs/coll_agre/fs/fs07-fra.asp#Toc107106458


Since there is disparity between the wages paid we don't know if these are the rates paid to domestic or foreign placed workers.

The top FS-1 grosses about $32/hour. What exactly do they have to do to earn that? What are the basic requirements of employment? What are the basic conditions of the work environment? These are all factors that will justify a proper wage.

Cops and Firefighters make twice that just to add a bit of perspective.
 
CanadianJeepGuy said:
Since there is disparity between the wages paid we don't know if these are the rates paid to domestic or foreign placed workers.

The top FS-1 grosses about $32/hour. What exactly do they have to do to earn that? What are the basic requirements of employment? What are the basic conditions of the work environment? These are all factors that will justify a proper wage.

Cops and Firefighters make twice that just to add a bit of perspective.


Plus the figures are from 2010 and earlier... I don't know what perks etc they get, or if the people on strike make how much. I just found the link on the PAFSO hash tag on twitter because the government says the the majority or many make 6 figures. Her it shows only a small number do.
 
GoonerClank said:
Plus the figures are from 2010 and earlier... I don't know what perks etc they get, or if the people on strike make how much. I just found the link on the PAFSO hash tag on twitter because the government says the the majority or many make 6 figures. Her it shows only a small number do.

The figures would still be the same since their collective agreement ended in 2011.

Six figure salaries I understand reflect management wages.
 
hmm $32 an hour. I was actually expecting it to be more than that.

My husband makes more as a welder. lol but puts in alot of man hours and Works hard for that.
 
LeisaP said:
hmm $32 an hour. I was actually expecting it to be more than that.

My husband makes more as a welder. lol but puts in alot of man hours and Works hard for that.

Plus he gets to come home every night and have a family life.

Here is a good read. I don't think they get paid enough.

http://alis.alberta.ca/occinfo/Content/RequestAction.asp?aspAction=GetHTMLProfile&format=html&OCCPRO_ID=71001699
 
CanadianJeepGuy said:
Plus he gets to come home every night and have a family life.

Here is a good read. I don't think they get paid enough.

http://alis.alberta.ca/occinfo/Content/RequestAction.asp?aspAction=GetHTMLProfile&format=html&OCCPRO_ID=71001699

yes! thats very true!

I was really expecting them to make alot more.
thanks ill check out the link!
 
CanadianJeepGuy said:
Sorry had to cut and paste......

A Conservative attack on union certification

Conservative MP, Blaine Calkins, has put forward a private members bill, Bill C-525, that would make it more difficult to organize workers in the federal sector into unions and easier to decertify workers.
The bill would remove card check union certification from the Canada Labour Code, Parliamentary Employment and Staff Relations Act, and Public Service Labour Relations Act.
Card check certification means that if 50% +1 of employees in a bargaining unit sign a union card, the Canadian Industrial Relations Board can automatically grant the union certification.

The new bill aims to make the certification process extremely difficult by:
1. Holding a representation vote after 45% of employees in the bargaining unit sign a union card.
Moving to a vote-based certification system gives employers a greater opportunity to scare and pressure workers to vote no. A card-based certification system works. It requires a majority of all workers in the bargaining unit to sign a card in favour of the union.
2. Requiring a majority of members in the bargaining unit to vote in favour of a union, rather than a majority of employees who vote.
With this change, any person who did not vote would effectively vote “no”. How is this democratic? How does this reflect workers' choices? If we applied this same reasoning to the federal election in May 2011, almost no sitting MPs would have been elected. A normal, reasonable election process measures the percentage union support of those who vote.
3. In a decertification vote, the union, not those favouring decertification, would again have to receive a 50% +1 vote from the bargaining unit.*
This vote puts unions through perpetual recertification votes, re-opening the door to employer interference.
Let's be clear, Bill C-525 is an outright attack on unions. The Harper government is intent on reducing the power and strength of workers' collective voice. It follows other attacks like Bill C-377, which aims at subjecting all levels of our union to outrageous government regulation and control, and Bill C-60, which would insert the federal government, through a Treasury Board representative, into the collective bargaining process at Crown corporations like Canada Post.
Postal workers know the Harper government is not our friend. As workers, we need to stand united against these attacks on our rights. To this end, the union's executive will discuss Bill C-525 and determine what CUPW can do to counter this particular attack.

This is the bill that they should have gutted not Rathgeber's.

As Obama says: It's the right to work for less.
 
brightredscream said:
So how bad does this affect Ottawa?

This Foreign Strike is for all Civil Employees who are employees of Canada
 
micmac101 said:
This Foreign Strike is for all Civil Employees who are employees of Canada

No. Just Foreign Service Workers.