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I am a litigant and would like to know about the chances that litigants have in the coming days. I have taken the refund of my fees, so would it be possible to pay the fees again if the decision is in our favour.
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In current situation one can go to syria an then enter as refugee,. :P

Everything is free.....even air tickets....red carpet welcome by their Prime Minister....my country is your country, and make it as your home country syria.  :P.

But...if you  are litigant  like us, then I think our chances are very dim, they are currently filling their stomach with refugees, only chance is there there is a vomit........LOL

Pls dont take seriously no one knows.

In country of refugees, they have first right. ;) ;)
 

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McCallum: 15,000 refugees in interview process overseas (http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/mccallum-15-000-refugees-in-interview-process-overseas-1.2702743)

'Colossal effort' underway to bring 10,000 Syrian refugees to Canada by year's end (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syrian-refugees-resettlement-plan-1.3367474)

Syrian Refugee Arrivals To Ramp Up To Average 2 Planes A Day, Liberals Say (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/12/16/federal-government-formally-drops-lawsuit-over-refugee-health-care-cuts_n_8818730.html)
 

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Conservatives Have Damaged Our Immigration System (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/john-mccallum/immigrant-canadian-immigration_b_7560378.html)
John McCallum had written this article and it was published on 12 June 2015.

Liberal government's first fortnight of good work has started to show up
(1) Liberals ask for suspension of cases where Canadian citizenship was stripped over terror charges (http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/liberals-ask-for-suspension-of-cases-where-canadian-citizenship-was-stripped-over-terror-charges)
(2) Federal government formally drops niqab appeal (http://globalnews.ca/news/2342217/federal-government-formally-drops-niqab-appeal/)
(3) Canadian PM 'committed' to Syrian refugee resettlement (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/11/17/canada-refugee-crisis.html)
(4) Justin Trudeau formally commits to lifting visa requirement for Mexicans (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-formally-commits-to-lifting-visa-requirement-for-mexicans-1.3323013)
(5) How Trudeau plans to undo Harper’s legacy, brick by brick (http://ipolitics.ca/2015/11/18/how-trudeau-plans-to-undo-harpers-legacy-brick-by-brick/)
(6) (a) Liberals drop Harper government’s court battle over refugee health benefits (http://ipolitics.ca/2015/12/16/liberals-drop-harper-governments-court-battle-over-refugee-health-benefits/)
(b) Statement from the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship and the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada (http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/statement-from-the-minister-of-immigration-refugees-and-citizenship-and-the-minister-of-justice-and-attorney-general-of-canada-562638411.html)
(c) Feds drop refugee health care lawsuit (http://presstelegraph.com/2015/12/17/feds-drop-refugee-health-care-lawsuit.html)

Hope to receive such a good news from the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship and the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada on our lawsuit as well (meaning, the government agreeing to honour the February 2012 agreement made with the litigants).
 

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(6) (a) Liberals drop Harper government’s court battle over refugee health benefits (http://ipolitics.ca/2015/12/16/liberals-drop-harper-governments-court-battle-over-refugee-health-benefits/)
(b) Statement from the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship and the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada (http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/statement-from-the-minister-of-immigration-refugees-and-citizenship-and-the-minister-of-justice-and-attorney-general-of-canada-562638411.html)
(c) Feds drop refugee health care lawsuit (http://presstelegraph.com/2015/12/17/feds-drop-refugee-health-care-lawsuit.html)

Hope to receive such a good news from the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship and the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada on our lawsuit as well (meaning, the government agreeing to honour the February 2012 agreement made with the litigants).
Good news should come for all; whether litigants or non-litigants! Justice means if someone has done wrong and injustice with so many individuals (around 3,00,000), law should look into the matter impartiality and reverse any unjust decision or action taken! If termination of backlog was wrong, it was wrong for applicants and not only those who are litigants! Non-litigants are also victims; though they are silent suffers! Perhaps they still believe in the law and justice more than litigants!

There should be no negligence! There should be no favouritism! All deserve justice whether they seek it or not! Law and justice should be impartial and equally fair to all. If the law fails to identify injustice or does not respond in spite of clear injustice; then it is really disgusting and disgraceful for the law and lawmakers!

It is unbelievable that a country like Canada has not enough intelligent and courageous people in government or law courts to look into the injustice and go in for favour of justice! Then, why to go crazy for such a country with heartless and brainless people!

But, I think a day must come when everyone will get justice; whether litigant or not, though many may have lost the interest or settled somewhere else already! It will be 'justice delayed is justice denied' for many! Many may be not medically fit after delay of so many years! Dreams already shattered! Hearts already broken! Many may get it posthumously! It is really inhuman and unjust and disgraceful!

I wholeheartedly appeal to the new government and lawmakers of Canada to seriously consider the case of all the applicants and do justice to all the applicants swiftly and gracefully!
 

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Immigration Minister John McCallum clears the way for four-year-old boy from India to come to Canada (http://ottawacitizen.com/storyline/immigration-minister-john-mccallum-clears-the-way-for-four-year-old-indian-boy-to-reunite-with-parents)

Bhavna Bajaj's son granted residency years after paperwork mistake (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/bhavna-bajaj-son-granted-residency-years-after-paperwork-mistake-1.3380125)

Mom dances for joy at news son can come to Canada (http://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2015/12/23/mom-dances-for-joy-at-news-son-can-come-to-canada.html)

Ex-immigration minister urges Canada to double intake of Syrian refugees (http://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2015/12/01/ex-immigration-minister-urges-canada-to-double-intake-of-syrian-refugees.html)

Canada pledges to double its intake of Syrian refugees in 2016 (http://sccougar.com/2015/12/25/canada-pledges-to-double-its-intake-of-syrian-refugees-in.html)
The government initially pledged to resettle 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of February, but will now up that amount to 50,000 by the end of 2016.
 

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Happy New Year 2016

May God spread prosperity and joy in our lives on this New Year and fulfill all our dreams.
 

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Lawyers Who Challenged Harper Supreme Court Appointment Marc Nadon Fighting 'Paltry' Award (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/01/10/galati-slansky-marc-nadon_n_8949378.html)

Some background news on our villain Stephen Harper
A scorecard of the Harper government’s wins and losses at the Supreme Court of Canada (http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/scoc-harper-gov-scorecard-741324)
Harper: Tension Between Courts, Government Part Of Canadian System (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/10/16/tension-between-courts-government-part-of-canadian-system-says-harper_n_8313696.html)
Stephen Harper’s courts: How the judiciary has been remade (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/stephen-harpers-courts-how-the-judiciary-has-been-remade/article25661306/)
Conservatives spent more than $4.7 million fighting 15 losing court cases (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-spent-more-than-4-7-million-fighting-15-losing-court-cases-1.3042725)
International panel slams Stephen Harper for treatment of Supreme Court justice (http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/international-jurists-slam-stephen-harper-for-his-treatment-of-supreme-court-justice)
 

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Lawyers Who Challenged Harper Supreme Court Appointment Marc Nadon Fighting 'Paltry' Award (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/01/10/galati-slansky-marc-nadon_n_8949378.html)

Some background news on our villain Stephen Harper
A scorecard of the Harper government’s wins and losses at the Supreme Court of Canada (http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/scoc-harper-gov-scorecard-741324)
Harper: Tension Between Courts, Government Part Of Canadian System (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/10/16/tension-between-courts-government-part-of-canadian-system-says-harper_n_8313696.html)
Stephen Harper’s courts: How the judiciary has been remade (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/stephen-harpers-courts-how-the-judiciary-has-been-remade/article25661306/)
Conservatives spent more than $4.7 million fighting 15 losing court cases (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-spent-more-than-4-7-million-fighting-15-losing-court-cases-1.3042725)
International panel slams Stephen Harper for treatment of Supreme Court justice (http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/international-jurists-slam-stephen-harper-for-his-treatment-of-supreme-court-justice)
Any latest relevant news for pre-Feb 2008 backlog cases?

Positive or negative?

When it will be clearly out for all the applicants?

Hope for the best this time!!!

Please update any news as soon as it is available!

Thanks!
 

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Happy Republic Day to my fellow Indians.

God bless our country, hope and pray our children are saved from this trauma and mental agony we are passing through. They never have even to think about immigrating.

God bless our country.
 

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Decision Delivered by Justice Russell on 26th Jan 2016.

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Written directions of the Court: The Honourable Mr. Justice Russell dated 26-JAN-2016 directing "To counsel: As agreed on September 2, 2015, I am providing counsel with a draft of my decision. The decision itself will not change but I have left room for possible questions for certification. I already have the written questions that Mr. Galati provided on September 2, 2015 but he may wish to modify these in some way. I suggest that Mr. Galati either confirm the questions already submitted, or provide any modifications in writing within 7 days of this direction and that the Respondent provide a written response within 7 days of receiving them. Any reply from Mr. Galati should be submitted within 3 days of receiving the Respondent's response. If this is a problem for either side, please let me know." received on 26-JAN-2016 Confirmed in writing to the party(ies)
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This statement "Any reply from Mr. Galati should be submitted within 3 days of receiving the Respondent's response" arises suspicion that the decision may be against us. I may be wrong, but feeling jittery with Justice Russell words.

Difficult to figure out right now what decision has been delivered from the Language of the draft verdict. Let's wait for Tim Reply
 

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Here are the latest updates for:

1. Young Mi Back v. MCI http://cas-ncr-nter03.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=IMM-1-13
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[color=blue]-	2016-01-26	Ottawa	Acknowledgment of Receipt received from R. Galati (A's counsel) & M. Anderson, C.J. Jubenville, J.E. Clarke (R's counsels) with respect to Direction ID 88 placed on file on 26-JAN-2016
-	2016-01-26	Ottawa	Written directions of the Court: The Honourable Mr. Justice Russell dated 26-JAN-2016 directing "To counsel: As agreed on September 2, 2015, I am providing counsel with a draft of my decision. The decision itself will not change but I have left room for possible questions for certification. I already have the written questions that Mr. Galati provided on September 2, 2015 but he may wish to modify these in some way. I suggest that Mr. Galati either confirm the questions already submitted, or provide any modifications in writing within 7 days of this direction and that the Respondent provide a written response within 7 days of receiving them. Any reply from Mr. Galati should be submitted within 3 days of receiving the Respondent's response. If this is a problem for either side, please let me know." received on 26-JAN-2016 Confirmed in writing to the party(ies)
-	2015-09-02	Toronto	Toronto 02-SEP-2015 BEFORE The Honourable Mr. Justice Russell Language: E Before the Court: Motion Doc. No. 17 on behalf of Respondent Result of Hearing: Matter reserved Before the Court: Judicial Review Result of Hearing: Matter reserved held in Court Senior Usher: Mary Joseph Duration per day: 02-SEP-2015 from 09:32 to 12:15 Courtroom : Courtroom No. 5-A - Toronto Court Registrar: Heather Michaud Total Duration: 2h 43min Appearances: Rocco Galati 416-530-9684 representing Applicant Martin Anderson 416-952-2856 representing Respondent Charles (Julian) Jubenville 416-952-2938 representing Respondent Jocelyn Espejo Clarke 416-973-5199 representing Respondent Comments: Applicant proposed two questions for certification (Doc 31 filed on IMM-6828 -12). Pending the outcome of today's hearing, the parties may make additional submissions on questions for certification. Heard together with IMM-6828-12. (DARS Z005152) Minutes of Hearing entered in Vol. 320 page(s) 411 - 419 Abstract of Hearing placed on file[/color]
2. Haiyan Gong v. MCI http://cas-ncr-nter03.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_RE_info_e.php?court_no=IMM-6828-12
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[color=blue]-	2016-01-26	Ottawa	Acknowledgment of Receipt received from R. Galati (A's counsel) & M. Anderson, C.J. Jubenville, J.E. Clark (R's counsel) with respect to the Direction of the Court - ID 64 placed on file on 26-JAN-2016
-	2016-01-26	Ottawa	Written directions of the Court: The Honourable Mr. Justice Russell dated 26-JAN-2016 directing "To counsel: As agreed on September 2, 2015, I am providing counsel with a draft of my decision. The decision itself will not change but I have left room for possible questions for certification. I already have the written questions that Mr. Galati provided on September 2, 2015 but he may wish to modify these in some way. I suggest that Mr. Galati either confirm the questions already submitted, or provide any modifications in writing within 7 days of this direction and that the Respondent provide a written response within 7 days of receiving them. Any reply from Mr. Galati should be submitted within 3 days of receiving the Respondent's response. If this is a problem for either side, please let me know." received on 26-JAN-2016 Confirmed in writing to the party(ies)
-	2015-09-02	Toronto	Toronto 02-SEP-2015 BEFORE The Honourable Mr. Justice Russell Language: E Before the Court: Motion Doc. No. 16 on behalf of Applicant Result of Hearing: Matter reserved Before the Court: Judicial Review Result of Hearing: Matter reserved held in Court Senior Usher: Mary Joseph Duration per day: 02-SEP-2015 from 09:32 to 12:15 Courtroom : Courtroom No. 5-A - Toronto Court Registrar: Heather Michaud Total Duration: 2h 43min Appearances: Rocco Galati 416-530-9684 representing Applicant Martin Anderson 416-952-2856 representing Respondent Charles (Julian) Jubenville 416-952-2938 representing Respondent Jocelyn Espejo Clarke 416-973-5199 representing Respondent Documents filed at hearing: 31 Comments: Applicant proposed two questions for certification (Doc 31). Pending the outcome of today's hearing, the parties may make additional submissions on questions for certification. Heard together with IMM-1-13 (DARS Z005152). Minutes of Hearing entered in Vol. 320 page(s) 402 - 410 Abstract of Hearing placed on file
31	2015-09-02	Toronto	PROPOSED QUESTIONS FOR CERTIFICATION ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT filed at hearing on 02-SEP-2015[/color]
 

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So, we will have to wait for a maximum of another 17 (7+7+3) days to know the court's decision officially.
7 days for Mr. Galati to either confirm the questions already submitted, or provide any modifications in writing
7 days for the Respondent to provide a written response on receiving Mr. Galati's response
3 days for any reply from Mr. Galati on receiving the Respondent's response
 

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The 3 possible outcome scenarios:
1. The court decision might favour we applicants
2. The court decision might be against we applicants
3. The court decision might be partly favourable and partly against we applicants (split verdict)

If the decision is either partly or fully against we applicants, we are going to appeal in a higher court.
But if the decision fully favours us, it is for the government to decide whether or not to go in for an appeal.
 

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I think it will be much earlier as both the parties are not going to take long to respond to each other's questions. Mr Galati questions are already submitted and if the REspondent(CIC) has also kept response ready (which i assume they must have), this exchange of information will be closed in 1 week.

Unofficially the decision is out and our Lawyers (Tim and Rocco) knows the outcome of this legal battle.
 

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Extracts of some noteworthy text from Tim Leahy's updates of the past:
4 November 2015: "I am comforted, however, by the thought that it is far easier to write a decision dismissing our case than it is to write one granting us the relief we are seeking. The fact that Justice Russell, who presided over hearings this week in Toronto, has not yet released his decision implies that he is working on the wording which will give us the relief we seek while protecting the decision from being overturned in the Federal Court of Appeal.
So, I'm sorry. We just have to continue waiting. While the change in government does not guarantee success, it is a major help because it means that, if Justice Russell seeks promotion to the Federal Court of Appeal, he is not required to rule against us, as Justice Rennie did in Tabingo (the so-called class action for FSW's) and justices Boivin and Gleason did in my investor litigation, after which all three were quickly elevated to the Federal Court of Appeal."

2 September 2015: "Mr. Galati appears to have gotten across to Justice Russell our arguments, including putting to rest DoJ's argument that the Minister would be acting "contrary to Law" if he honoured the Agreement. Justice Russell appears to have accepted the argument I had been making since June 2012. Likewise, the Court appears to have understood the constitutional issues, which DoJ counsel appeared never to have grasped (or, knowing that it is correct, feign puzzlement).
The good news is that DoJ finally admitted that the Agreement governs both groups, saying "If the Agreement is enforceable, it would govern both those who applied before Liang and those who applied afterwards". They argue -- and there were three lawyers on the other side, as there always have been -- however, that passage of s. 87.4 terminated the Agreement, too -- but it clearly did not.
The importance of that concession is that it opens the door to Justice Russell to rule in our favour on the Agreement and not to have to rule on the constitutional issues. Thus, we can win without the Government losing big time. (However, after October 19th, the Government is likely to be gone in any event.)
While no decision was given, and Justice Russell has yet to express his view on the main issues, because he appears to have understood them and all the main points were addressed, I am very happy with what occurred today, especially DoJ's concession that, if the Agreement is enforceable, it applies all litigants. As I said, the concession permits Justice Russell to rule in everyone's favour without having to rule against the Government, per se, allowing the other 80,000 files to remain closed but yours to be processed. A small loss for CIC but a huge win for each of you."

16 March 2015: "As you know, DoJ is trying to have some of the litigants removed from our group, and we're limiting those to be removed only to those who have already had the files processed to completion. The dispute is limited to those who were in more than one litigation group.
In a teleconference with both counsel, Justice Campbell revealed that he understands the issues and agreed that it makes sense to have all those who joined before the Liang decision have their files attached to the lead case, IMM-1-13 (Back) and those who joined afterwards, to follow IMM-6828-12 (Gong).
Justice Campbell did not, however, rule on who should be excluded because the lists DoJ presented are in no recognizable order, whereas the lists I prepared are in order of file number and alphabetically by visa post. He suggested that we try to reach an agreement on which files are to be included and, where we do not agree, he will make a ruling.
Again, the only people at risk are those who were also in the Tabingo litigation. There is no legal basis for excluding them, and, because we have an honest judge, who is not seeking elevation to the Federal Court of Appeal, I expect Justice Campbell to dismiss DoJ's motion and to grant ours. But, that ruling will not come until after we have worked out a joint list.
I have asked Rocco, and he has agreed, to have DoJ go through our lists and identify those litigants whom it wants excluded and to explain why. Until they have done so -- and we have addressed it -- Justice Campbell will not be making a ruling on the issue."

19 December 2014: "This week, we presented DoJ with our revision of their revised list of those who are included in the litigation group.
DoJ excluded from the list all those who have already had their files assessed (and whom I had failed to delete) and those who also had cases in the so-called class-action litigation (Tabingo). I contacted everyone who had been deleted to ascertain if their file had been assessed and added back to the list everyone who advised that their file had not been assessed.
Rocco Galati and I share the view that inclusion in another litigation group does not justify excluding one arbitrarily from either group. If DoJ persists in excluding any of those whom I added back to the list, the Court will have to decide the matter. We will not accede to DoJ improper demand. (I told them if they wanted them in only one group, exclude them from the Tabingo group.)
We are only talking about a few of the 1,300 litigants in the group. So, please do NOT ask me if you were excluded. I notified all those who were and added back all those who confirmed that their file had not been assessed. If I did not notify you, DoJ accepts that you are in the group."

28 March 2014: Judge Barnes advised both parties that he has agreed to grant leave for both representative cases and that the hearing will be in September.
The main issue will be enforcement of the Agreement, signed and filed with the Court in February 2012, promising to apply the ruling in the lead cases for the other cases. However, because Minister Kenney had the unassessed files abolished, CIC refused to honour the Agreement for the files which Bill C-38 closed. DoJ argues also that the Agreement only applies to those who joined before 18 June 2012 although Justice Barnes had directed on 26 June 2012 that those who joined afterwards would be governed by it.
Therefore, in September, we will be arguing (a) the Agreement is binding, (b) it applies to everyone in the group, no matter when they joined, and (c) further that for a reason not argued in the “class-action” lawsuit, s. 87.4 does not negate the applicants’ right to have their files processed. If we succeed, all who have joined the group before the ruling will have their files activated and decided on the merits.

4 February 2014: "We have two lead cases, addressing three issues:
1. Back, IMM-1-13:
a. never assessed pre-Bill C-50 applicants
b. who joined the litigation before the Liang decision (before 14 June 2013)
2. Gong: those who joined after 14 June 2013 and
a. were never assessed or
b. were assessed after 29 March 2012.
If you (a) joined the litigation group (by submitting a signed retainer agreement and making the first payment) and (b) received this email from me, you are in one sub-category or the other. There is no need to ask me if or in which. Both cases, as I said, will be argued the same day before the same judge.
We have now received instructions regarding Back and Gong as the lead cases concerning the validity of s, 87.4 of IRPA as it concerns: a) those cases under the Protocol (Back) and b) those whose inclusion under the Protocol is disputed, as well as the effect of reaching a selection decision after March 29, 2012 (Gong)."