Feb 2014 test & interview passers

[vinaypuri]

But they did not ask for consent from you, did they?

To me, during interview Immi Officer did not say anything but after 2.5 months of test they are asking for the consent.. not sure how much time it will take them to get the records, review and send the oath.

Does CIC has access to CBSA systems or do they request it just like we do from ATIP site?

I had the same issue, but since I stay in Windsor, I guess the officer understood it better. I mentioned to her I have a really close school friend in Michigan whom I visit almost every month, other than doing grocery, watching sports and movies, going to IKEA.

 

[chakrab]

But they did not ask for consent from you, did they?

To me, during interview Immi Officer did not say anything but after 2.5 months of test they are asking for the consent.. not sure how much time it will take them to get the records, review and send the oath.

Does CIC has access to CBSA systems or do they request it just like we do from ATIP site?

the officer grilled me good for the US visits. in fact I asked her, are applicants advised against US visits even from a border city? she told me nicely that it's only a procedure, anyone can visit anywhere. however applicants will be viewed the same way whether they visit china or usa. just because it's a border city, it doesn't matter in terms of the application.

she already had my report in the file and it felt like she was also viewing them on the screen. did you make many travels after the test? i have heard that travelling too close to the test causes red flag, as if someone just came for the test.

 

[chakrab]

CIC can get CBSA data any time, but I believe they want your consent for legal reasons.

 

[Purrple]

Well there are two ceremonies on the 24th, 25th and 31st - hence im being hopeful

 

[vinaypuri]

Thanks Chakrab.. no I did not make any trips before or after the test. I have one coming up in April mid to LA for business.

I hope they are able to retrieve info. from CBSA and do not issue a RQ.

the officer grilled me good for the US visits. in fact I asked her, are applicants advised against US visits even from a border city? she told me nicely that it's only a procedure, anyone can visit anywhere. however applicants will be viewed the same way whether they visit china or usa. just because it's a border city, it doesn't matter in terms of the application.

she already had my report in the file and it felt like she was also viewing them on the screen. did you make many travels after the test? i have heard that travelling too close to the test causes red flag, as if someone just came for the test.

 

[links18]

CIC can get CBSA data any time, but I believe they want your consent for legal reasons.

What is your source for this?

 

[chakrab]

Thanks Chakrab.. no I did not make any trips before or after the test. I have one coming up in April mid to LA for business.

I hope they are able to retrieve info. from CBSA and do not issue a RQ.

did the officer mention if he/she was going to recommend you to the judge in the positive?

 

[vinaypuri]

She did not say anything, all she said that your oath will be in 2 Months, you don't need to bring Passport and other documents, all you need is your PR card.

did the officer mention if he/she was going to recommend you to the judge in the positive?

 

[chakrab]

What is your source for this?

source that they can get from CBSA? for the PR renewal they dont ask for permission (not sure if that changed too) but they do a background check from CBSA anyway.

 

[chakrab]

She did not say anything, all she said that your oath will be in 2 Months, you don't need to bring Passport and other documents, all you need is your PR card.

that sounds positive to me. may be the judge wanted a closer look. be positive. hope you don't have to renew the PR card any time soon.

 

[links18]

source that they can get from CBSA? for the PR renewal they dont ask for permission (not sure if that changed too) but they do a background check from CBSA anyway.

The most recent citizenship application form clearly states that if you DO NOT give CIC permission to get CBSA entry records directly, you will be required to get them yourself and send them in and that it might delay your file. Why all the bureaucratic roundabout, if they can just look them up anytime they want? There are also recent reports of applicants who gave CIC permission to get CBSA records directly at time of application being asked to sign the same form again after the test.

I am skeptical CIC can legally obtain this info without your permission.

 

[vinaypuri]

Thanks chakrab, I hope the same. I am glad I already got my PR card renewed until 2017.

If CIC local offices have easy access to CBSA systems then it should be quick. If they do not have that access, it will take another 6 weeks for them to get the records, then another 2-3 weeks to validate.. and probably 2-3 month journey.

that sounds positive to me. may be the judge wanted a closer look. be positive. hope you don't have to renew the PR card any time soon.

 

[vinaypuri]

yeah, I found it weird too... I wonder if the consent they could use only at Sydney not in the local office? but if they did background check, why would the judge have to do it again...

I guess, no one knows the process they follow. Hoping for the best.

The most recent citizenship application form clearly states that if you DO NOT give CIC permission to get CBSA entry records directly, you will be required to get them yourself and send them in and that it might delay your file. Why all the bureaucratic roundabout, if they can just look them up anytime they want? There are also recent reports of applicants who gave CIC permission to get CBSA records directly at time of application being asked to sign the same form again after the test.

I am skeptical CIC can legally obtain this info without your permission.

 

[chakrab]

The most recent citizenship application form clearly states that if you DO NOT give CIC permission to get CBSA entry records directly, you will be required to get them yourself and send them in and that it might delay your file. Why all the bureaucratic roundabout, if they can just look them up anytime they want? There are also recent reports of applicants who gave CIC permission to get CBSA records directly at time of application being asked to sign the same form again after the test.

I am skeptical CIC can legally obtain this info without your permission.

like i said, it's probably for legal reasons. they are kinda snooping into your travel history and am sure someone filed a case against them. may be the CIC is trying to cover all legal bases.

this link says cbsa and cic can share information between themselves.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/laws-policy/mou/mou-cbsa.asp

 

[vinaypuri]

Thanks for the link Chakrab... I hope they have access to actual information systems.. or else, if they are relying on postal/faxes.. it will take foreever.

like i said, it's probably for legal reasons. they are kinda snooping into your travel history and am sure someone filed a case against them. may be the CIC is trying to cover all legal bases.

this link says cbsa and cic can share information between themselves.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/laws-policy/mou/mou-cbsa.asp