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affectee2004

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May 6, 2012
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WELL THEY VE TREATED US MRE BRUTALLY THAN ANTS , altough omni bill is passed but still one can try t sue them ? friends do u ve any idea r guess tht who ll be lucky 20,000 applicants . r tht is aLSO A FRAUD BY these unfair ppl . as who ll gonna check them :mad:i cant still able t digest tht in this modern era such a legislation can pass n no court is helping ppl . piece of advice for new generation BE A QUENE JUMPER . try things by hook n crook method no need t be stupid and follow in quene patiently .this is the open msg t every person from mr kenny :'(
 

hopefulever

Hero Member
Feb 11, 2012
327
2
Category........
Visa Office......
NDLS
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-07-2004
Doc's Request.
Nov 2008
what will be our fate now?
 

jnathan

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2009
4,513
142
Category........
Visa Office......
Sheng Chiu
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21st Jan 2010
Doc's Request.
10th March 2010
AOR Received.
10th June 2010
IELTS Request
provided
File Transfer...
IN PROCESS: 12th October, 2010
Med's Request
Withdrawal Request sent....Was waiting for files to return....instead of returning the files, VO sent the MR !!
Med's Done....
28 May 2012
Passport Req..
24 July 2012
affectee2004

20,000 are the ones who passed the selection Decision.
Did you?
 

newcomer

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Dec 3, 2007
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Middle East
affectee2004 said:
dont know jhanathan . they told me they r undergoing background n security checks so god knows wht is the status ::)
Hi,

When did you receive this reply from London???

Was it before 30th March or after 30th March ,if it was after 30th March then there is a strong chance that your case will be processed.
 

affectee2004

Star Member
May 6, 2012
170
2
:D dear newcomer they r giving me this reply from sept and i ve mailed them recently and they gave me similar reply after omnimess ...so just praying already more than 8 yrs of my life ve been wasted :(
 

jnathan

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2009
4,513
142
Category........
Visa Office......
Sheng Chiu
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21st Jan 2010
Doc's Request.
10th March 2010
AOR Received.
10th June 2010
IELTS Request
provided
File Transfer...
IN PROCESS: 12th October, 2010
Med's Request
Withdrawal Request sent....Was waiting for files to return....instead of returning the files, VO sent the MR !!
Med's Done....
28 May 2012
Passport Req..
24 July 2012
keep praying and order CAIPs
look for the SELDEC value. if its 1 , then you are safe.
 

newcomer

Hero Member
Dec 3, 2007
951
27
Middle East
jnathan said:
keep praying and order CAIPs
look for the SELDEC value. if its 1 , then you are safe.
Brother , jnathan has given perfect advice ,in order to get out of this uncertainity order your CAIPS and check SELDEC (Selection Decision ) value .

All the best!
 

noon

Hero Member
Mar 9, 2012
226
5
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
3113
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-07-2004
Doc's Request.
11-10-2008
Nomination.....
NA
AOR Received.
28-07-2004
IELTS Request
november 2006
File Transfer...
NA
Interview........
I think it is waived
Notice – Questions and answers: Changes that affect Federal Skilled Worker applications

Q1. Why do you propose removing the FSW backlog?

Canada needs to select immigrants who are ready, willing and able to fully integrate into Canada’s labour market and fill gaps in our economy, particularly where we have existing skills shortages.

The large backlog of applications that has accumulated under the Federal Skilled Worker Program is impeding the responsiveness of Canada’s immigration system.

Canada risks losing the global talent competition for the world’s best and brightest as potential immigrants choose to take their skills to other countries with more responsive immigration systems rather than remain in the queue to have their application processed in Canada.

Economic Action Plan 2012 therefore proposes to return applications and refund fees paid by certain federal skilled worker applicants who applied under previous criteria established prior to February 27, 2008.

Removing the backlog of FSW applications will allow CIC to focus on bringing in skilled immigrants who apply under the current eligibility criteria and are more suited for shortages in Canada’s economy today.

Q2. Would I be affected if CIC removes the FSW backlog?

Under the proposed changes, CIC would close Federal Skilled Worker applicants’ files if they:

applied before February 27, 2008, and
have not had a decision made by an immigration officer based on selection criteria by March 29, 2012. (information on selection criteria is below)
We expect this would affect around 280,000 people including dependents.

If the proposed law is passed, CIC would begin to return the full amount of fees paid by affected FSW applicants.

Q3. Is there any reason I would not get my refund?

The proposed changes are intended to be retroactive to March 29, 2012. If an immigration officer had refused your application based on selection criteria before that date, you will not get a refund.

Q4. What does a "decision based on selection criteria" mean?

A "decision based on selection criteria" means that an immigration officer:

has assessed your FSW application against the points grid, and
has made a decision on whether or not you meet the selection criteria of the program.
Currently, the pass mark is 67 points out of a grid worth 100 points. The grid considers the person’s:

ability in English and/or French
education
work experience
age
whether they have a job already arranged in Canada (arranged employment), and
how well they might adapt to living in Canada (which awards points for things like previous work or study in Canada, spouse’s education and relatives in Canada).
If your application is successful, you would move to the next phase (i.e. admissibility). At that point you would be checked against health, security and criminality requirements before being allowed to enter Canada.

If you do not score at least 67 on the FSW points grid, your application would be refused and CIC would inform you of the decision.

Q5. How would I get my refund?

More details on the proposed change will be announced soon. Once the proposal is approved through Parliament, CIC will begin to return the fees.

Details will be available on the CIC website.

Q6. What options would I have if my application is removed from the backlog?

If your file is closed by CIC, you may re-apply under the current FSW criteria. If you have the skills Canada needs now, your application would likely be processed much faster – new FSW applications are processed within 6-12 months.

Evaluation of the Federal Skilled Worker program

Executive summary

Purpose of the evaluation

The evaluation of the Federal Skilled Worker Program (FSWP), which addressed a series of evaluation issues and questions related to program relevance, design, implementation and impact, is focused on the period after introduction of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) in 2002 and related regulations and before the implementation of the Ministerial Instructions (in 2008). More specifically, the objectives of this evaluation are to assess:

Program design and implementation, including timeliness, consistency and transparency of selection; and
The impact of the program to date at the immediate and intermediate outcome levels, including an assessment of the economic establishment of skilled workers.
The evaluation was designed to address the complexity of the FSWP by using multiple approaches and lines of evidence. In the course of the evaluation, data was collected and analyzed from a variety of primary (e.g. interviews, surveys and focus groups) and secondary sources (document and literature review, as well as federal government databases – Computer Assisted Immigration Processing System (CAIPS), Field Operations Support System (FOSS) and Longitudinal Immigration Database (IMDB)).

Federal Skilled Workers Program

The Federal Skilled Worker Program (FSWP) was developed as a part of Canada’s immigration strategy, wherein permanent residents are selected based on their ability to become economically established in Canada. With the introduction of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) on June 28, 2002, the selection system for skilled workers was changed to respond to the dynamic labour market associated with today’s knowledge-based, global economy. Based on an objective and transparent points system, the new Federal Skilled Worker Program is intended to be more effective at selecting immigrants who will succeed economically. The program revisions reflected the need to1:

improve the economic success rate of skilled worker immigrants;
maintain the quantity of skilled worker immigrants; and
improve the transparency of the selection process
Applicants who wish to come to Canada under the Federal Skilled Workers Program must meet the Program’s minimum requirements2. Applicants who meet minimum requirements are then reviewed against the following six selection factors: i) work experience; ii) education; iii) language; iv) age; v) arranged employment; and vi) adaptability elements that involve factors such as a positive arranged employment opinion, spousal (partner’s) education, family relations in Canada, post-secondary study and work experience in Canada. To be eligible for a permanent resident visa under the FSWP, applicants must meet the “minimum number of points required of a skilled worker” or the “pass mark” set by the Minister. The pass mark was last set on September 18, 2003 at 67 points3.

Major findings and conclusions

The major findings and conclusions arising from the evaluation are as follows:

A. All stakeholder groups recognize a strong, continuing need for the Federal Skilled Worker Program.

Interviewees attributed the need for this program to the importance of skilled workers for the economy, and the presence of skill shortages, which have resulted from economic growth and the increasing rates of retirement associated with an aging population (although economic data have not indicated widespread skill shortages). They observed that the FSWP is consistent with departmental and Government–wide priorities in that it helps to strengthen the Canadian labour market and economy, maintain a stable workforce, and build a stronger and more competitive country. As well, they stated that the Program responds to the immediate and longer-term need for highly skilled professionals, and addresses Canada’s broader immigration objectives. Stakeholders suggest that by targeting different pools of workers and responding to different economic needs, the Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) and Canadian Experience Class (CEC) complement, rather than duplicate, the FSWP.

B. The findings from the IMDB data analysis and the FSW surveys demonstrate that IRPA FSWs become established economically and meet the needs of employers.

With respect to economic indicators, the IMDB analysis found that 89% of FSWs were employed or self-employed three years after landing. Employment earnings for this group also increased over time.

Ninety-five percent of the employers surveyed for the evaluation indicated that FSWs are meeting or exceeding their expectations. Further, most employers (63%) had found it difficult to fill the position for which the FSW was eventually hired.

C. Adoption of the new FSWP selection criteria in 2002 has improved the economic performance of FSWs and is broadly supported by the interviewees.

IMDB data indicates that the average employment earnings of IRPA FSWs are higher than those of pre-IRPA. For the 2004 cohort, for example, employment earnings increased from $40,100 in the first year after landing to $47,500 a year later, while average employment earnings for pre-IRPA FSWs increased from $24,300 to $31,300 for the same time period. The percentage of FSWs reporting employment insurance receipts or social assistance benefits has also declined with the introduction of IRPA. Regression analysis of FSW earnings also shows that the selection regime significantly affects the level of income of FSWs. IRPA FSWs earn significantly more than their pre-IRPA counterparts.

D. Skilled workers who have arranged employment have significantly higher employment earnings than those who did not have an Arranged Employment Offer (AEO). However, staff at some Canadian Visa Offices Abroad (CVOA) have serious concerns regarding the integrity of AEOs as they currently exist.

IMDB data shows that the average employment earnings for FSWs with an AEO were $79,200 three years after landing, compared to $44,200 for those without. Results from the client survey support this finding. In addition, the survey indicates that IRPA FSWs with an AEO are more likely to still be working for their first employer in Canada.

In the case studies, some CVOA staff expressed serious concerns over the level of fraud involved, and the due diligence required to assess the validity of job offers. The AEO fraud is commonly associated with job offers from non-existent employers, fictitious positions incompatible with the type of business or business operations, offers of convenience from friends or family members, and genuine offers with inflated job descriptions.

E. Processing times show that IRPA was successful in reducing the time associated with the selection decision and final decision. However, this was largely offset by an increase in the time required to complete the paper screening, as the rate of applications received exceeded the capacity to process them. Notwithstanding this, the revisions have resulted in a system that is more transparent, objective, and easier to understand.

Although the regulations relating to FSWP have moved towards a more objective, transparent and efficient process of selecting skilled workers, the processing times remained long and the backlog increased. Average overall processing times increased by 3 months (from an average of 20 months under pre-IRPA to an average of 23 months under IRPA). Reductions in the time required for the selection decision and final decision were largely offset by an increase in the time required to complete the paper screening (initial screening of the applications was delayed by the large number of files in the queue and competing priorities).

Key factors that contributed to this increase in the backlog include:

Litigation. The applications that underwent dual assessments after the introduction of IRPA, created delays in the application processing (the average processing time increased from 20 months under pre-IRPA to 55 months for dual assessed applications).
Competing priorities and reduced visa targets. From 2002 to 2008, the minimum visa target for the FSWP decreased from about 116,000 to 67,000 visas. Applications received under the PNP, the Quebec skilled worker program and the Ministerial Instructions are given priority within the economic class, which often limits the ability to process IRPA applications received before Ministerial Instructions were introduced. Lowering the visa targets for the FSWP limits the ability of a CVOA to reduce its backlog.
Potential for fraud. Fraud is prevalent across the CVOAs visited, and is a major concern for visa officers. Some areas suffer from higher levels of fraud, which is at least in part evident in the level of the approval rates in different visa offices. In such cases, it may take longer to assess an application.
Limited access to effective tools and resources. A lack of standardised tools to aid in the assessment of language, education, and work experience makes it very difficult to achieve consistent, reliable and timely processing of applications.
High intake levels for applications. There was a surge in the number of applications received before IRPA came into effect in 2001, and again in 2004, when the pass mark was lowered from 75 to 67.
Adjusting the pass mark. While it was envisioned in the program design that the pass mark would be adjusted to manage the flow of applications received, this has not occurred since 2003. Therefore, intake of applications remained high as many applicants could qualify under the 67 points pass mark.
F. While most interviewees view the current selection criteria to be appropriate given the objectives of the Program, many identified potential opportunities for improvement with respect to the assessment process and the number of points awarded for certain criteria.

The IMDB data indicates that the selection factors are effective predictors of economic performance. In particular, regression analysis indicate that the economic performance of FSWs is closely linked to whether they have an AEO, as well as to their language abilities and previous work experience in Canada prior to obtaining permanent resident status. Among other factors from the selection grid, age, education, work experience and partner’s education also have a positive effect on employment earnings. Relatives in Canada and having studied in Canada for at least two years are the only two selection factors that have a negative impact on earnings.

To improve the FSWP, interviewees, CVOA staff, and research on other similar programs, suggest that consideration should also be given to: requiring formal language testing and placing greater emphasis on full fluency in one of the official languages; placing a higher priority on younger skilled workers; establishing educational equivalencies and requiring credential recognition in regulated professions; reviewing the adaptability criterion particularly with respect to awarding AEO points under two different criteria; spousal education; and the definition of relatives in Canada.

G. Most provincial governments prefer the PNP due to its perceived responsiveness about provincial priorities and needs. As the PNP has expanded in recent years, the levels for the FSWP have been reduced, to ensure CIC adheres to the annual levels plan.

Most provincial governments prefer the PNP, citing perceived advantages such as greater responsiveness to immediate labour needs and provincial priorities, the ability to attract workers who wish to settle in destinations other than major urban centers and shorter processing times.

In response to strong provincial support, the target for the PNP has increased from 1,500 visas in 2002 to 20,000 visas in 2008. According to official documents and available data, the minimum targets for the FSWP decreased from 116,000 visas to 67,000 visas over the same time period.

H. The characteristics of FSWs have changed and are more diversified with the introduction of IRPA.

In response to the changes in regulations and selection factors, the characteristics of FSWs have changed somewhat under IRPA, as FSWs selected under that regime are more highly educated and have a better knowledge of official languages. Other changes include shift in the source countries of applicants, illustrated by a drop in admission from Asia.

Even though China remained the top source country for principal applicants landing in Canada, the share of FSWs coming from that country went from 28% under pre-IRPA to 16% under IRPA. The occupational mix of FSWs also became more diversified with the introduction of the IRPA regulations. The majority (60%) of pre-IRPA FSWs were intending to work in professional occupations in natural and applied sciences (NOC 21), while the percentage of FSWs intending to work in these professions was much lower (33%) after IRPA was introduced. Another outcome of IRPA is therefore the diversification of the profile of FSWs admitted under that regime.

I. Information regarding points is deleted in CAIPS for applicants whose interviews are waived.

Recognizing that the CAIPS system was designed at a time where most applicants were asked for an interview, the database did not capture selection decisions for people who were not interviewed. With the new regulations, the majority of applicants are not interviewed as part of the selection process. Therefore, the information regarding selection decisions is lost in the CAIPS system. This makes it difficult to assess the impact of the selection criteria.

When the Global Case Management System (GCMS) is implemented, the system should be designed in a way that such information is kept for further analysis.


source:citizen ship and immigration canada website
 

noman

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Jun 13, 2010
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Visa Office......
London
NOC Code......
1111 and 0111
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Aug 2004
Doc's Request.
08/07/2011
AOR Received.
sep 2004
File Transfer...
30-06-2010
One of my friend on trackit applicant of May 2004, got his medical
this month. Today he did his medical by Dr Wakil...and unbelievable
he got this reply in evening from CHC:




Thank you for your recent enquiry.

The Government of Canada's Economic Action Plan 2012, which became law on June 29, 2012, will impact certain federal skilled worker applications. For additional details on how your application may be affected, please refer to the following website:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/n...

It is recommended that you do not undergo medical examinations until further instructions have been issued.


regards

Noman
 

emsky1973

Star Member
Jul 2, 2012
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Hi Noman,

This is confusing! If they already asked you for Medical so meaning they have made the decission. I couldn't believe it either. It seems like it is a DEFAULT to stop all application for Pre 2008.......


:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

noman said:
One of my friend on trackit applicant of May 2004, got his medical
this month. Today he did his medical by Dr Wakil...and unbelievable
he got this reply in evening from CHC:




Thank you for your recent enquiry.

The Government of Canada's Economic Action Plan 2012, which became law on June 29, 2012, will impact certain federal skilled worker applications. For additional details on how your application may be affected, please refer to the following website:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/n...

It is recommended that you do not undergo medical examinations until further instructions have been issued.


regards

Noman
 

hopefulever

Hero Member
Feb 11, 2012
327
2
Category........
Visa Office......
NDLS
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-07-2004
Doc's Request.
Nov 2008
The status of case can easily be deduce from the caips notes. If any body's file caips has PSDEC AS 01 ALONG WITH POINTS > 67 AND IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER SELDEC IS 00 OR 01 BUT PREPARED MEDICAL FORMS, THEN HIS CASE IS CLEAR FOR FURTHER PROCESSING. HE MAY GET HIS MEDICALS AT ANY TIME FROM NOW.SO EVRY ONE FROM 2004 SHOULD GET HIS/HER CAIPS NOTES TO KNOW FACTS ABOUT HIS/HER MEDICALS STATUS.