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rajkamalmohanram

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vensak said:
It can end up in the moment where both PNP could be lost. Eventually they will find out (latest by passport). And what will he do with schedule 4?
andy108 said:
You cant have 2 concurrent PR apps. Well you can texhnically, but whats the point? And from legal point of view ot sure what are the consequences
Theoretically, one can have 2 PR applications in process. When a decision is made on one application (approved), the other one has to be withdrawn.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/can-i-apply-under-two-different-categories-at-the-same-time-t274809.0.html;msg4128409#msg4128409

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/multiple-pr-applications-is-it-possible-t123348.0.html;msg1853985#msg1853985

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/applying-for-multiple-pr-classes-t458072.0.html;msg5523456#msg5523456

This was true before the Express Entry system came into effect however, there was nothing specifically announced (post EE) regarding submission of multiple applications (AFAIK), so I assume it is still possible.

However, having 2 PN applications in process simultaneously might not be possible because of the "Intent to reside" clause. Having a FSW/PNP or a CEC/PNP or FSW/CEC combination sounds plausible though.

Not I am encouraging this practice; This is just for the purpose of discussion.
 

vensak

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rajkamalmohanram said:
Theoretically, one can have 2 PR applications in process. When a decision is made on one application (approved), the other one has to be withdrawn.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/can-i-apply-under-two-different-categories-at-the-same-time-t274809.0.html;msg4128409#msg4128409

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/multiple-pr-applications-is-it-possible-t123348.0.html;msg1853985#msg1853985

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/applying-for-multiple-pr-classes-t458072.0.html;msg5523456#msg5523456

This was true before the Express Entry system came into effect however, there was nothing specifically announced (post EE) regarding submission of multiple applications (AFAIK), so I assume it is still possible.

However, having 2 PN applications in process simultaneously might not be possible because of the "Intent to reside" clause. Having a FSW/PNP or a CEC/PNP or FSW/CEC combination sounds plausible though.

Not I am encouraging this practice; This is just for the purpose of discussion.
Those 2 applications with 2 different PNP itself can cost him both nominations. Would he get 2 nominations on EE, he could have accepted only 1. Like this, he is showing both provinces, that has double intent to reside (and he did not ask any of them to withdraw his nomination). That case can end up easily in misinterpretation.
And yes, they wiill find out on federal level.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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vensak said:
Those 2 applications with 2 different PNP itself can cost him both nominations. Would he get 2 nominations on EE, he could have accepted only 1. Like this, he is showing both provinces, that has double intent to reside (and he did not ask any of them to withdraw his nomination). That case can end up easily in misinterpretation.
And yes, they wiill find out on federal level.
Well, yes I understand what you are saying. However, I have seen a few people do this and successfully get nominated without any repercussions (Again, I do not encourage this, this is only for the purpose of discussion). One of my friends had made 2 EE profiles. He received SINP nomination on one but was waiting for OINP to send him a nomination on the other (This didn't happen so he withdrew the nomination and the associated EE profile). He has received his PPR too. So, it might be possible to apply for multiple provinces for nomination.

Once he accepts the nomination from one province, his profile will become invisible to other provinces and will be invited to apply under PNP.
 

vensak

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rajkamalmohanram said:
Well, yes I understand what you are saying. However, I have seen a few people do this and successfully get nominated without any repercussions (Again, I do not encourage this, this is only for the purpose of discussion). One of my friends had made 2 EE profiles. He received SINP nomination on one but was waiting for OINP to send him a nomination on the other (This didn't happen so he withdrew the nomination and the associated EE profile). He has received his PPR too. So, it might be possible to apply for multiple provinces for nomination.

Once he accepts the nomination from one province, his profile will become invisible to other provinces and will be invited to apply under PNP.
Except, that he did not just get 2 PNP and then choose one to apply with. What he did is to get paper based nomination from one province and then started federal application. Later on he got another province nomination with EE and he started application there as well.
That means to have and to use 2 different provinces nominations. And that alone is a double intention (you are suppose to sign Schedule 4 for the paperbased version and at the same time he can be asked to do the same for the EE application as well).
 

rajkamalmohanram

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Except, that he did not just get 2 PNP and then choose one to apply with. What he did is to get paper based nomination from one province and then started federal application. Later on he got another province nomination with EE and he started application there as well.
That means to have and to use 2 different provinces nominations. And that alone is a double intention (you are suppose to sign Schedule 4 for the paperbased version and at the same time he can be asked to do the same for the EE application as well).
Yes, correct. The OPs situation is risky.
 

andy108

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vensak said:
Those 2 applications with 2 different PNP itself can cost him both nominations. Would he get 2 nominations on EE, he could have accepted only 1. Like this, he is showing both provinces, that has double intent to reside (and he did not ask any of them to withdraw his nomination). That case can end up easily in misinterpretation.
And yes, they wiill find out on federal level.
Exactly.

Anyhow, the point is one should be immediately withdrawn IMHO.
 

g126

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App. Filed.......
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Doc's Request.
16-12-2016
Nomination.....
09-12-2016
AOR Received.
07-01-2017
File Transfer...
18-02-2017
Med's Request
UPFRONT
Med's Done....
15-12-2016
Passport Req..
16-06-2017
VISA ISSUED...
22-06-2017
LANDED..........
09-10-2017
vensak said:
Except, that he did not just get 2 PNP and then choose one to apply with. What he did is to get paper based nomination from one province and then started federal application. Later on he got another province nomination with EE and he started application there as well.
That means to have and to use 2 different provinces nominations. And that alone is a double intention (you are suppose to sign Schedule 4 for the paperbased version and at the same time he can be asked to do the same for the EE application as well).
Yes! I agree... At some stage the candidate signed two Sched 4 forms with different intentions. He should have withdrawn his paper based NOM as soon as he got AOR for the EE one.

Very risky! If his application get's cancelled because of this the provinces will be communicated and it's quite likely that he'll never be able to get a nomination from either province...
 

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g126 said:
Yes! I agree... At some stage the candidate signed two Sched 4 forms with different intentions. He should have withdrawn his paper based NOM as soon as he got AOR for the EE one.

Very risky! If his application get's cancelled because of this the provinces will be communicated and it's quite likely that he'll never be able to get a nomination from either province...
Just from the interest I have rechecked what is exactly written in the nomination letter. and the catch is, that the acceptation of the nomination under EE is equal to Schedule 4.

Now I am curious how will this applicant end up and how this situation will be solved.

And one more clarification regarding your EE profile:

Can I have more than one Express Entry profile?
No. You may only have one profile at a time. This is set out in Canada’s immigration law.


However here is the chance, that you will stay unoticed (at least until the moment where you actually submit your application).
 

Lilicadinha

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First Status Update (Please note all data may not be perfect). This would be the start for regular updates.

Request all members in the thread to check their entries and let us know if anything is incorrect. Suggestions are welcome.

155 records
143 FSW Outland
3 PNP
4 PNP Inland
2 Blanks
1 CEC
1 CEC Inland
1 FSW Inland

This doesnt look right to me. Please help check the data.




No.NameStreameAPR/AORMeds PassedBKGS ChangeLatest BKGS Change DateVisa OfficePPR
1wiskyPNPDecember 1December 13NN -> IPFebruary 3Warsaw
2Ahmad ShqairPNPDecember 1
3BiggeeeFSW-InlandDecember 1January 22NN -> IPJanuary 22
4SebariDecember 1January 28NN -> IPJanuary 28
5Legolas_10PNPDecember 2
6Alexandar_hiCECDecember 2
7Dupsyola PNP-OutlandDecember 2
8SoullousDecember 2
9kk1988CEC-InlandDecember 2January 20
10priyan687FSW-OutlandDecember 2December 4
11US1876FSW-OutlandDecember 2January 2NN -> IPJanuary 23February 2
12ardamardarFSW-OutlandDecember 3NN -> IP
13Neel0526FSW-OutlandDecember 3December 6
14AntomanFSW-OutlandDecember 3
15IAMFINEFSW-OutlandDecember 3December 6NN -> IPDecember 6
16sid.rFSW-OutlandDecember 3January 31NN -> IPJanuary 31
17salkhanFSW-OutlandDecember 3
18Syed HaiderFSW-OutlandDecember 4
19AmirHNKFSW-OutlandDecember 4January 31NN -> IPJanuary 31
20ShuaibFSW-OutlandDecember 4December 5
21F.KFSW-OutlandDecember 4December 10
22JW8FSW-OutlandDecember 4December 11NS -> NNDecember 15New Delhi
23AKCFSW-OutlandDecember 5
24TheLifeofTayoFSW-OutlandDecember 5
25Iman.GFSW-OutlandDecember 5December 13NS -> NNJanuary 17
26TicTocCrocFSW-OutlandDecember 5January 3NS -> IPJanuary 3
27teewhy709FSW-OutlandDecember 5December 9
28FeraszFSW-OutlandDecember 5December 8NN -> NSDecember 22
29Lyon37FSW-OutlandDecember 5December 13NN -> NSDecember 14
30vevebrownFSW-OutlandDecember 5
31ginyphyFSW-OutlandDecember 6
32zhaoxiao1207FSW-OutlandDecember 6
33geneadeFSW-OutlandDecember 6
34volodyalysakFSW-OutlandDecember 6
35abhimaanFSW-OutlandDecember 6January 27NN -> IPJanuary 27
36Maged_mmhFSW-OutlandDecember 6December 16NS -> NNJanuary 11
37nitishdesh1FSW-OutlandDecember 6
38t3kidsFSW-OutlandDecember 6
39AliAli8221FSW-OutlandDecember 6
40joy.daniel.patalaFSW-OutlandDecember 6December 12
41newbie28FSW-OutlandDecember 7December 17NS -> NNDecember 26
42BC4lifeFSW-OutlandDecember 7December 19NN -> NSDecember 19
43moderator1983FSW-OutlandDecember 7December 14NS -> NNDecember 16
44rusticdudFSW-OutlandDecember 7
45DigitalDestinyFSW-OutlandDecember 7December 29
46Yassine BKFSW-OutlandDecember 7December 14NN -> IP24 January 17Abu Dhabi4 Feb 17
47Ashwani SinghFSW-OutlandDecember 7December 14New Delhi
48dustinchanFSW-OutlandDecember 7
49mashamasha FSW-OutlandDecember 8December 10January 26
50johnjkjkFSW-OutlandDecember 8January 27
51willitworkFSW-OutlandDecember 8
52DreamSRkFSW-OutlandDecember 8
53flowers101FSW-OutlandDecember 8
54Ruhi KhoslaFSW-OutlandDecember 8
55shrinidhFSW-OutlandDecember 9
56daredevil88FSW-OutlandDecember 9
57hitesh0414FSW-OutlandDecember 10December 14NN -> NSDecember 14
58saikris12FSW-OutlandDecember 10
59siddharthbalaFSW-OutlandDecember 10December 14NN -> NSDecember 19
60tannkoFSW-OutlandDecember 10December 19NS -> NNJanuary 10January 26
61ash9112002FSW-OutlandDecember 11
62thepraveenFSW-OutlandDecember 11NS -> NN
63sodallFSW-OutlandDecember 12December 16NN -> NSDecember 16
64fatcat123FSW-OutlandDecember 12
65wengehuaFSW-OutlandDecember 12December 17
66kroutFSW-OutlandDecember 12December 17
67othmane baFSW-OutlandDecember 12
68varinder1717FSW-OutlandDecember 13February 2
69wengehuaFSW-OutlandDecember 13
70pushpinderFSW-OutlandDecember 13
71ScraptoonFSW-OutlandDecember 14December 16NN -> IPJanuary 24ParisFebruary 4
72popolipoFSW-OutlandDecember 14
73JasleenKFSW-OutlandDecember 14February 2NN -> NSFebruary 2
74SilviagonoFSW-OutlandDecember 14NN -> IP
75Simran SandFSW-OutlandDecember 14
76Deepesh KriFSW-OutlandDecember 14NS
77iMeatFSW-OutlandDecember 14
78hsinxhFSW-OutlandDecember 15December 21
79goldencanadaFSW-OutlandDecember 15
80Priyanka SFSW-OutlandDecember 15December 21
81hvmFSW-OutlandDecember 15February 3NN -> NSFebruary 3
82girish979FSW-OutlandDecember 15January 4
83aniket2789FSW-OutlandDecember 15December 21NS -> NNJanuary 15New Delhi
84tntusrFSW-OutlandDecember 15
85Tej KahlonFSW-OutlandDecember 15
86Hema VermaFSW-OutlandDecember 15
87SAMCANADA_ONFSW-OutlandDecember 16
88highmadnessFSW-OutlandDecember 16NN -> NSFebruary 3
89FeranmiFSW-OutlandDecember 16
90gantisunil86FSW-OutlandDecember 17
91RickyindiaFSW-OutlandDecember 18January 5New Delhi
92ajvarFSW-OutlandDecember 18January 12NN -> NSDecember 23
93GOCANADA92FSW-OutlandDecember 18December 23
94Ahmed AbdFSW-OutlandDecember 18NN
95VITbmanFSW-OutlandDecember 18NN
96mayankgaur1988FSW-OutlandDecember 19January 3
97PonJoubFSW-OutlandDecember 19January 4
98wk87FSW-OutlandDecember 20
99vrlkachaFSW-OutlandDecember 20January 10
100akmoolahFSW-OutlandDecember 20NN -> NSJanuary 9
101Sarah dhanoaFSW-OutlandDecember 21
102oldenufFSW-OutlandDecember 21
103musicnlyrxFSW-OutlandDecember 21
104nbtFSW-OutlandDecember 21
105WaitingformyvisaFSW-OutlandDecember 21?NN - > IP?
106mgnlkyFSW-OutlandDecember 22
107zzdyjcwjFSW-OutlandDecember 22
108moriceFSW-OutlandDecember 22
109AustinFSW-OutlandDecember 22
110KD87FSW-OutlandDecember 22January 9
111YoonaFSW-OutlandDecember 22
112Ruchit VachFSW-OutlandDecember 22
113JackhcdFSW-OutlandDecember 22
114muahmedFSW-OutlandDecember 2228-Dec-16
115KbabaFSW-OutlandDecember 2211-Jan-17
116varun2015FSW-OutlandDecember 23
117mody2410FSW-OutlandDecember 23January 26NS -> NNJanuary 28
118R4321FSW-OutlandDecember 23
119The PhenomFSW-OutlandDecember 23
120munitosFSW-OutlandDecember 23
121atoyebitoluFSW-OutlandDecember 23December 29
122Justin TsengFSW-OutlandDecember 2316-Jan-17NN
123MariappanFSW-OutlandDecember 2311-Jan-17NN -> NS
124JohyoFSW-OutlandDecember 23NN
125MileHighSkyFSW-OutlandDecember 23
126rtirFSW-OutlandDecember 24
127JohyoFSW-OutlandDecember 24
128Aarthy AiyerFSW-OutlandDecember 24
129mits0829FSW-OutlandDecember 26January 13
130eatprayloveFSW-OutlandDecember 27January 13NS -> NNJanuary 13
131HUYNH ThanhFSW-OutlandDecember 27January 12NN -> IPJanuary 15
132DineshFSW-OutlandDecember 27January 12
133harsatFSW-OutlandDecember 27
134Sagar PurswFSW-OutlandDecember 27NN
135Alex_PFSW-OutlandDecember 2714-Jul-16NN -> NS
136bib4canadaFSW-OutlandDecember 28
137francishFSW-OutlandDecember 28
138skdubaiFSW-OutlandDecember 29NN -> NSJanuary 12
139RUMEYAFSW-OutlandDecember 29NN -> NS
140Pascal.HFSW-OutlandDecember 29January 17
141mira.rFSW-OutlandDecember 29
142M.RSHDFSW-OutlandDecember 29January 9
143debeamsFSW-OutlandDecember 29January 6NN -> NS
144Suresh KumarFSW-OutlandDecember 29
145arifurrahmanFSW-OutlandDecember 30January 13
146tphilFSW-OutlandDecember 30
147holbondFSW-OutlandDecember 30January 11
148jianxia15FSW-OutlandDecember 30January 13NS -> NNJanuary 22
149dr@gonflyFSW-OutlandDecember 30January 10
150dbn2004FSW-OutlandDecember 30
151PAJFSW-OutlandDecember 30
152viveksFSW-OutlandDecember 31January 13NS -> NNJanuary 20
153Ruby31PNP-OutlandDecember 31NN -> NSJanuary 6
154sudiPNP-OutlandDecember 31
155danish2016PNP-OutlandDecember 31January 5NS -> NNJanuary 10
End

5 PPRs so far:

NameStreameAPR/AORMeds PassedBKGS ChangeLatest BKGS Change DateVisa OfficePPR
US1876FSW-OutlandDecember 2January 2NN -> IPJanuary 23February 2
Yassine BKFSW-OutlandDecember 7December 14NN -> IP24 January 17Abu Dhabi4 Feb 17
mashamasha FSW-OutlandDecember 8December 10January 26
tannkoFSW-OutlandDecember 10December 19NS -> NNJanuary 10January 26
ScraptoonFSW-OutlandDecember 14December 16NN -> IPJanuary 24ParisFebruary 4
Thank you dear for putting this together! Can you please include me?

CRS: 929
Program: CEC Inland
Application Submitted: Dec 1
AOR: Dec 13
Medical Exam Result: Passed - Jan 27
Document requested: Provided - Jan 27
Background check: In progress - Jan 27
Background Check: Changed to No needed at this time - February 4

Please let me know if you need more information.

Thank you again for your efforts!
 

volodyalysak

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Category........
Visa Office......
USA
NOC Code......
2242
Job Offer........
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App. Filed.......
06-12-2016
AOR Received.
06-12-2016
Med's Done....
06-02-2017
Passport Req..
08-03-2017
VISA ISSUED...
21-03-2017
LANDED..........
Mid May 2017
Can you guys update tracker, my medicals passed yesterday and BC changed to NS today, don't know what that means, but I'm glad my application is moving.
 

daredevil88

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Jun 16, 2016
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Hi All

I am seeing couple of ppl who had aor in Oct/nov 2016 in pnp/cec have got the ppr request.
Anyone got ppr request from Dec Aor.

I am in cec category and got my aor on 9th dec, 2016.

Any idea guys when should i expect ppr request
 

maged_mmh

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Nov 27, 2015
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Ottawa
NOC Code......
6221
Job Offer........
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App. Filed.......
29-12-2015
Nomination.....
11-2016
AOR Received.
6-12-2016
Med's Done....
16-12-2016
vensak said:
It can end up in the moment where both PNP could be lost. Eventually they will find out (latest by passport). And what will he do with schedule 4?
It's all wrong - this will NEVER work.. see my earlier comment
 

maged_mmh

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Nomination.....
11-2016
AOR Received.
6-12-2016
Med's Done....
16-12-2016
Ferasz said:
I received my GCMS notes dated 17 January, that is 40 days post AOR. The last update on my application was on 07 January with the last statement in the GCMS saying "FILE HELD AWAITING RESPONSE FROM PS REGARDING PC"

What is PS? What does that mean?
probably a typo for PA