Express Entry CEC Inland vs Outland

[anthonyjr]

Hi guys,
I'm wondering is there any difference between Express Entry CEC inland application and outland application

My profile:
3 months Canadian experience NOC B (Chef)
9-10 months Canadian experience NOC B (Drafter)
1 bachelor degree from oversea (waiting assessment from WES)
1 2-year diploma in Canada
IELTS just took exam last week, still waiting for result. I haven't created EE profile yet, but my estimation is 439 to 445 CRS points.

Now I have business and have to go back to my country the sooner the better.
Can I go back to my country, then create profile, wait for ITA and apply from there?
Or should I stay in Canada, wait for ITA, complete application, wait for file number and then go? Is there any difference between the two paths?

Any advice appreciated. Thank you

 

[ContactFront]

No difference. You can go back.

 

[anthonyjr]

No difference. You can go back.

Thanks man. Will the processing time take longer? As I heard I'll submit the application to CIC office in my country and they'll pass it to Ottawa

 

[ContactFront]

No. It will be processed in a VO in your country or region.
Unless you are in the US then it goes to Ottawa

 

[mau123]

No. It will be processed in a VO in your country or region.
Unless you are in the US then it goes to Ottawa

What if you are in Canada? They still going to send to home country office?

 

[ContactFront]

Ottawa

 

[mau123]

Ottawa

And what if I go back home while my PR application is being processed? They re-send my file to my home country's office?

 

[jes_ON]

And what if I go back home while my PR application is being processed? They re-send my file to my home country's office?

All CEC applications are processed in Canada, they are only sent to a foreign visa office for finalization (e.g. Passport request, issuing visa/COPR).

 

[anthonyjr]

All CEC applications are processed in Canada, they are only sent to a foreign visa office for finalization (e.g. Passport request, issuing visa/COPR).

hi jes_ON,
Do you have any comments for my questions on the first post?

 

[jes_ON]

hi jes_ON,
Do you have any comments for my questions on the first post?

Same as everyone else - no difference. With CEC, you either qualify, or you don't - it is pass/fail.

My only comment is, be 100% sure you have cleared the 1 year requirement before you leave. That means 52 complete weeks of qualifying work experience. Without exact dates of employment, cannot really advise.

 

[anthonyjr]

Same as everyone else - no difference. With CEC, you either qualify, or you don't - it is pass/fail.

My only comment is, be 100% sure you have cleared the 1 year requirement before you leave. That means 52 complete weeks of qualifying work experience. Without exact dates of employment, cannot really advise.

Appreciate that!
So far I have 43 weeks of full-time experience NOC 2253
Back to early 2018, I work around 455 hours part-time NOC 6321 over 4 months. Roughly 120 hours each month.
I think the hours of experience is sufficient. The problem is how to prove that.
I couldn't prove exactly weekly work for the part-time job from 2018. The employer cut down schedule every the last day and the 15th of the month. They don't pay bi-weekly but twice a month. I don't know how to calculate exactly my weekly or bi-weekly hour, but I believe CIC would accept 120 hours monthly. What do you think?

 

[jes_ON]

Appreciate that!
So far I have 43 weeks of full-time experience NOC 2253
Back to early 2018, I work around 455 hours part-time NOC 6321 over 4 months. Roughly 120 hours each month.
I think the hours of experience is sufficient. The problem is how to prove that.
I couldn't prove exactly weekly work for the part-time job from 2018. The employer cut down schedule every the last day and the 15th of the month. They don't pay bi-weekly but twice a month. I don't know how to calculate exactly my weekly or bi-weekly hour, but I believe CIC would accept 120 hours monthly. What do you think?

Interestingly, you do not state how many hours per week you worked. That's an important detail, even if it varied, you still need your letter from your employer to state it.

I understand your point about semi-monthly vs. bi-weekly, however, you're guessing with your total hours and they are close enough to full-time that IRCC might want more proof. It was only last year, you should have some documentation still.

Your final paystub from that job should show cumulative hours worked. You can also get your Record of Employment from Service Canada (if your employer did not give you one).

 

[anthonyjr]

I worked in a restaurant and my schedule was flexible. Some weeks just 20 but some weeks I work 40 hours.
This is interesting. Say my total hours for that half-month pay cheque was 60 hours, but 1 week is 20, 1 week is 40, how do IRCC know?
I think I will include a list of half-month worked hours on the reference letter from the restaurant. Do you think that works?

 

[jes_ON]

I worked in a restaurant and my schedule was flexible. Some weeks just 20 but some weeks I work 40 hours.
So, this is what I was getting at. You cannot count more than 30 hours per week - it is simply full-time then. If you work 20 hours one week and 40 hours the next, it only counts as 50 hours, not 60. So...

 

[anthonyjr]

My concern is how does IRCC find out the actual weekly hours we worked for part-time or flexible schedule jobs.

The paysubs only show half-month worked hours (or bi-weekly in some places), they didn't show weekly hour, because the pay period either half-month or bi-weekly. So does the information on ROE, I guess.

So that there are some other things that can let IRCC know about our actual weekly hour, which are internal schedule sheet, time sheet, list of week and hour worked respectively on letter of reference from employers.
Interestingly, those documents can be easily manipulated by employers. In my case, that's a restaurant of a friend. I think we can work around with that, as long as the total hours match with paystub.

E.g: the reference letter can say:
Week 1: he worked 28 hours
Week 2: he worked 29 hours
---Signed by employer---

Pay stub said: 57 hours
Count: 57 hours

The fact:
Week 1: I worked 20 hours
Week 2: I worked 37 hours

Pay stub said: 57 hours
Count: 50 hours

Should I think that way at all? These unclear information from IRCC is so confused...