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[aashay12]

Canada is a country seen by people just an passage to go to US
People run away from Canada due to less opportunities, something should change
About canada, which will never happen.
People go to US on Canadian passport and stay there permanently on TN visa.
This can be changed by improving the Canadian economy and reducing taxes...
And reducing over all benefit structure....making it more affordable to rest of the people....
I am in Tennessee today and paid $2.44 for a gallon, probably the cheapest since the 08 crash
Canada should more cater to US than her Majesty, this makes Canada rigid and unwelcoming for VC's
To invest in...
Canada should be 51st state, with its own ruling entity, and must peg the dollar to US.
The best advantage Canada has is that it gets educated immigrants....and Canada does not exploit this well...
US is full of illegals and uneducated immigrants and a tiny % of incoming educated immigrants....
Canada fails to realize the asset it has...
I felt that it has a colonial hangover.....Any thoughts....

 

[torontosm]

I felt that it has a colonial hangover.....Any thoughts....

I have a thought...perhaps you should actually spend some time in Canada before making such baseless generalizations about a country you obviously know nothing about.

Your post is flawed on so many levels, and I've responded to some of your more egregious statements below:

Canada is a country seen by people just an passage to go to US
This can be changed by improving the Canadian economy and reducing taxes...
And reducing over all benefit structure....making it more affordable to rest of the people....

If you have specific ideas about how to improve the economy, please offer them. However, your insight that the government needs to "improve the economy" is far from brilliant and I can assure you that you are not the first to come up with such an idea. As for the taxes, they are high as a direct result of the benefits that are offered (which far exceed those available in the US).

Canada should more cater to US than her Majesty, this makes Canada rigid and unwelcoming for VC's
To invest in...

Do you have any idea what the VC activity in Canada has been to date? All barriers that had previously restricted US VC activity in Canada were eliminated years ago, and since then, many of the leading US VC's have been active in Canada. And, this is despite the fact that Canada doesn't "cater to the US".

Canada should be 51st state, with its own ruling entity, and must peg the dollar to US.

I find it offensive that an immigrant who doesn't even live in Canada is proffering opinions of how the country should be annexed. Would you be pleased if I made similar statements about your home country of India (i.e., about how it should be made part of China)? Perhaps you should re-evaluate why you applied for Canadian residency...Is it because you couldn't qualify for a green card?

The best advantage Canada has is that it gets educated immigrants....and Canada does not exploit this well...
US is full of illegals and uneducated immigrants and a tiny % of incoming educated immigrants....
Canada fails to realize the asset it has...
I felt that it has a colonial hangover.....Any thoughts....

I think that you fail to appreciate the difference in the size of the populations and economies of Canada and the US. You can not compare the two, especially at the shallow level that you have attempted to.

 

[aashay12]

True, I have not spent time in canada, nor I know too much about Canada
But another thing is true is that it takes time to close deals in Canada as well
The pace at which business is done is much slower than US....not that they are wrong.
But in that time frame, people look elsewhere to close deals faster.
It can change with the help of educated immigrants, making Canada an unique economy
By Cutting its bureaucratic hurdles and mobilizing the economy.
As in the US, the benefits are there but they are differently used.
They have social security, like cpp in canada.
You can apply for unemployment and there is no separate tax for that like EI
People say that insurance is not free in US, go to any county hospital it free.....
There is another tax like Medicare.....which funds ur healthcare....when u retire.
Maternity leave is not paid, true. But you have 12 weeks of unpaid leave..by law...
When you have a baby there is no charge for the hospital bills, since the state covers it....
Again Canada can improve its business by lowering taxes and helping grow the economy....
Don't be offended, it's just my opinion.....

 

[torontosm]

True, I have not spent time in canada, nor I know too much about Canada
But another thing is true is that it takes time to close deals in Canada as well
The pace at which business is done is much slower than US....not that they are wrong.

Again, how can you make these statements without any experience to base your opinions on? Have you ever closed a deal in Canada? As a finance professional who has worked extensively in both the US and Canada, I can assure you there is no difference at all.

You can apply for unemployment and there is no separate tax for that like EI
There is another tax like Medicare.....which funds ur healthcare....when u retire.
Maternity leave is not paid, true. But you have 12 weeks of unpaid leave..by law...

If you don't understand the difference between medicare and Canada's health system, or EI vs. unemployment benefits, there is no point continuing this thread

When you have a baby there is no charge for the hospital bills, since the state covers it....

???? What in the world are you talking about? There is no such rule that states that all healthcare costs related to childbirth are borne by the State anywhere in the US.

Either you are a troll or are just ignorant.

 

[rhcohen2014]

+1 to you Toronto, though don't waste your breath. obviously this poster has a hard on for the US, and doesn't really understand the way anything works in either country. it's not worth battling back and forth with someone whose advice is not based on reality. I would really like to know where in the US aashay is living, what they do for work (and how much they are paid), and where they get their "free" medical care in the US without government support. i could go on and on about what is wrong with every statement he makes, though sadly it will never change his opinion of the good ole u.s of a. or stop his need to incite argument on this forum.

 

[scylla]

+1 to you Toronto, though don't waste your breath. obviously this poster has a hard on for the US, and doesn't really understand the way anything works in either country. it's not worth battling back and forth with someone whose advice is not based on reality. I would really like to know where in the US aashay is living, what they do for work (and how much they are paid), and where they get their "free" medical care in the US without government support. i could go on and on about what is wrong with every statement he makes, though sadly it will never change his opinion of the good ole u.s of a. or stop his need to incite argument on this forum.

Agreed. The statements about both Canada and the US largely aren't factual. No point responding - complete waste of time.

 

[aashay12]

I may be not be right about Canada, but man the US is the best...
I made a commitment on 15th April this year to support and defend the constitution
Also will obey the orders to the President of the US and fully comply with the UCMJ.
It's a promise I made to the US and forever I will stick to obeyed orders.
I just believe this is the greatest country on earth and if push comes to shove, I will
Always be with it no matter what happens.
Canada may be a great country, but it just can't get rid of the rigid economic structure
All I am saying is that Canada can benefit by easing the economic structure by lowering taxes
And boosting growth by help of the educated immigrants....
If I am wrong why do people in this forum, keep posting that they have hard time finding jobs
And want to move to US....there are more Canadians in America than Americans in Canada.
I see Canada with tremendous opportunity, but the system or structure fails it reach the potential
It could be multiple reasons like cold or seasonal business's or less population.
I have never said anything wrong about Canada, it's just the way it functions seems on a slower pace than the US.

 

[polara69]

I may be not be right about Canada, but man the US is the best...
I made a commitment on 15th April this year to support and defend the constitution
Also will obey the orders to the President of the US and fully comply with the UCMJ.
It's a promise I made to the US and forever I will stick to obeyed orders.
I just believe this is the greatest country on earth and if push comes to shove, I will
Always be with it no matter what happens.
Canada may be a great country, but it just can't get rid of the rigid economic structure
All I am saying is that Canada can benefit by easing the economic structure by lowering taxes
And boosting growth by help of the educated immigrants....
If I am wrong why do people in this forum, keep posting that they have hard time finding jobs
And want to move to US....there are more Canadians in America than Americans in Canada.
I see Canada with tremendous opportunity, but the system or structure fails it reach the potential
It could be multiple reasons like cold or seasonal business's or less population.
I have never said anything wrong about Canada, it's just the way it functions seems on a slower pace than the US.

I am happy for you to have found a place you love so much, I am also very happy it is not Canada. Stay in the US, it is probably best for both countries. By doing so you help increasing the IQ levels dramatically.

 

[aashay12]

Rcohen I don't need to incite any argument...
It's just what I felt when I was there in Canada.
I am not that kinda person, like I am right and you are wrong..
I accept critique alike, I am not perfect, nor I am god.
It's just something I see a lot of people telling me about the job situation in
Canada, when I was there and met more than 20 different people from different country
And the telling me about Canada and their experience.
It simply takes time to get a good paying job and that can be changed, but it will take time.
A white collar job takes time to get in Canada than in US.
So people have left with no choice but to come to US.
Especially if you are educated and have couple of years of experience
Getting the right job can be challenging.....and that desperation makes people
Come to US.......

 

[david1697]

I personally like the ideas of Enlightment Age. I believe Age of Reason is the pinnacle of Western Civilization. I believe Western Civilization was on decline for the past 150 or so years, because it gradually turned away from those ideas and concepts.
It is still doing better than the rest of the world, and it's precisely because of the progress it had made using a reason above superstition or habit, which resulted in exponential growth of population, society, science and economy.

One of the reasons I like Canada so much, btw, is the fact that today, in this time and period we live in, it's one which is governed by less emotional and more rational ideas and concepts. For instance, Canada is more Atheistic country than US, and it's a big thing fo me. I consider it to be a sign of more rational thought on part of general population. More rational thinking = more science, more prospect of reasonable actions taken and , overall, a more advanced society, which results in better life for individual members.

All above being said, America is also a Great Country. It was founded by brilliant men and the fact it became what it is today is testament to how well thought it's build up was. But it's a bit too intense and haphazard sometimes.

To be frank, if Canada is slow and skeptical in comparison,then I like that, because skepticism is a sign of wisdom. Japanese also don't jump to make quick deals and somehow end up making better cars and other things than rest of the world does.
A lot of destruction can happen if you let all kind of scoundrels from all over the world come to either Canada or US and take a quick advantage of total lack of any restrictions, so some of moderation and rule making (provided it's reasonable and doesn't obstruct a genuine entrepreneurship) is also a welcome sign. And we have those in both countries for a reason.

The only real issue with Canada today is apparent lack of profesisonal jobs.

I am not someone who looks at Canada as a "back up plan". I only look at ANY country in terms of overall Quality of Life, and that I measure by how close it is in operation to Rational, Enlightened choices (as opposed to Irrational, Emotional ones). The more Rational and Enlightened the entire system is the more I want to be there, even at the cost of leading a less affluent life. Simply because I would be happier among people who were more into rational approach of life.

But I can't live in any country without a prospect of gainful employment. How could anyone do that? And I can't accept just any survival job out there, I am not a very young , hot headed, college aged youth who yearns for that sort of an adventure. I have a spouse and kids of my own and I have a sense of responsibility for them.
So, it is with sadness I realize that I may not be able to move to canada before the set deadline. Especially when I see how my wife wants to go to Canada and have our kids grow up and go to college there.

But I don't hold it against Canada that its' economy is so weak today. All Western economies are going through difficult times and have been in rather not so exellent shape for the past 6 years or so. I am just somewhat puzzled by extreme zeal of the rule that aims to punish without a recourse anyone who fails to move to Canada when its' economy is so weak, but I don't project that unto entire Canada.




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[aashay12]

Very true and I agree.
I liked Canada very much, don't get me wrong and would like to live there someday
When I have a family. I just worry that I don't end up doing odd jobs for rest of my life in Canada.
As many people from different nationalities are telling me not to come there unless I have a
Well paying job and those are hard to find.
When I living with that Canadian guy, he told as well...it's hard out there and one needs lots of patience
Sometime a good 5-6 months...to find a decent job....
Nor I am a guy who will accept goverment handouts......it will kill me...
I don't blame Canada but scared to move to a place with less opportunities....
I don't think I am the only person think like this....who have lived in US and thinking about
Settling there.....someday....
Canada is light years ahead when it comes to common sense/reasoning and great people than US.
Not even one time I had a bad experience of the 2 weeks that I lived there.....

 

[david1697]

If I were Indian I would never move from US to Canada. I don't think there is a place in entire world where Indians can make it as well
as in US. I wasn't joking when I said earlier that all Indians I ever met are either doctors or IT spcialists.
I am sure that had I been an Indian I would be a law professor at Harvard by now.

 

[keesio]

This argument is old and happens constantly.

The USA can be better if your interest is mainly economic. The USA generally has more opportunities, higher wages, lower taxes and goods are cheaper.

For the more amorphous "quality of life", it depends on what is most important to the individual.

So there is no "right or wrong" answer.

The OP's interest is mostly economic so he prefers the USA. He's not alone - most immigrants are economic immigrants, looking for place with the most economic opportunity.

 

[steaky]

But I can't live in any country without a prospect of gainful employment. How could anyone do that?

Just because you can't live in any country without prospect of gainful employment, does not mean other people cannot!

 

[Rossei]

This argument is old and happens constantly.

The USA can be better if your interest is mainly economic. The USA generally has more opportunities, higher wages, lower taxes and goods are cheaper.

For the more amorphous "quality of life", it depends on what is most important to the individual.

+1
That draws the conclusion.