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Eligibility Review Required, Losing R76 FSW Points

pgfswapp

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Apr 29, 2018
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Hi Guys,

Thought of asking help understanding GCMS notes that I received.

My FSW eligibility points,
Age (35) 12
Education Level (4 Year - Bachelor's degree and a 1 year Postgraduate diploma) 22
Experience ( 6+ years of foreign work experience) 15
First language (IELTS - Speaking 8, Reading 6, Listening 6, Writing 6.5) 19
Past work in Canada (CompanyA+ CompanyB = 1 year fulltime work experience) 10
Total 78
My CRS Breakup:
Age 77
Education 128
1st Official Language 91
Canadian Work Experience 40
Education
+ Language 25
+ Canadian Work Experience 25
Foreign Work
+ Language25
+ Canadian Work Experience 25
Canadian Education 15
Total 451
My Timeline:
AOR Aug 8th 2018
MED Passed/ IP2 (Background Check in Progress) – Aug 29th 2018
FSWO/Single Applicant
GCMS Status:
Eligibility: Review Required
Security: Not Started
Criminality: In Progress
Medical: Passed
Info Sharing: Complete
Comment from Case Processing Agent,
Review of employment record regarding reference – eDOC#xxxxx, Review Required R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS – Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA – FSW POINTS: Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA – FUNDS : APPEARS TO MEET FSW points total: 63 ready to finalize RPRF: Complete
Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 451 CRS points minimum score for round: 451 CRS score at application (APR): 451 Total CRS Points Assessed I Verified: 411 I have reviewed the following for CRS points: PA gained points as SINGLE at ITA and at APR PA gained points for 3+ year(s) Foreign Work Experience

Q1: I'm not sure how did the case officer endup calculating the 63 points. Is it possible the agent made a mistake?
Q2: Should I wait for the next officer to look in to my file and ask for clarification or should I send the actual point calculation as LOE via CSE form?
Q3: Anyone else have a similar case in losing FSW eligibility points?

Please advice. Thanks in advance
 

Peacekeeper87

Champion Member
Jul 18, 2018
1,727
804
NOC Code......
0124
Have you provided complete and accurate work documentation to account for all 6 years of experience? (duties, correct NOC, etc...)
 

pgfswapp

Full Member
Apr 29, 2018
37
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Have you provided complete and accurate work documentation to account for all 6 years of experience? (duties, correct NOC, etc...)
Hi Peacekeeper,

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have provided all the required docs, matching NOC codes, job duties etc. let me provide more insight on my case (sorry to make it long). Below is the complete case officer notes,

A11.2- CASE PROCESSING AGENT: Lock-in Date: 2018-08-08_Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.

****NOTE: Review of employment record required regarding reference - eDoc #xxx (CompanyA - holds 11 months work experience in Canada) A 11.2: Review Required R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS : Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA- FUNDS: APPEARS TO MEET FSW points total: 63 (Not sure how he rounded it off to 63) Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 451 CRS points minimum score for round: 451 CRS score at application (APR): 451 Total CRS Points Assessed I Verified: 411 (451 - 40 = 411, 40 points reduced which was claimed for the 1 year Canadian work experience) I have reviewed the following for CRS points: PA gained points as SINGLE at ITA for 3+ year(s) Foreign Work Experience with "CompanyC, edoc# xxx" & "CompanyD, edoc# xxx" PA gained points for Canadian Education Transcript Provided eDoc# xxx Diploma Provided eDoc# xxx

INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA: Not in Status NO ADVERSE INFORMATION
MEDICALS: All valid for 6 months or more PASSPORTS: All valid for 6 months

WORK EXPERIENCE: Lock-in Date: 2018-08-08 Primary Occupation: NOC 0213 Computer and Information Systems Managers EDUCATION CREDENTIALS PROVIDED: Bachelor's Degree: Computer Science; Postgraduate Diploma: Information Technology; Certificate: Cyberspace security

2008-09 to 2008-12- Technical Support Specialist (NOC: 2282)- at CompanyB - eDoc# xxx- Letter dated 2018-07-20 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category.- Letter confirms salary of CAD xxx per annum - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Canadian Work: 0 years and 4 months. (CompanyB - 4 months of canadian work experience)

2009-01 to 2009-11 -Technical Analyst (NOC: 2282) - at CompanyA - (REVIEW REQUIRED)- eDoc# xxx-Letter dated 2018-07-30 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category.- Letter confirms salary of CAD xxx per annum - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Canadian Work: 0 years and 11 months. (CompanyA - 11 months work experience in Canada)

2011-05 to 2013-11 - Deputy/IT Manager (NOC: 0213)- at CompanyC- eDoc# xxx- Letter dated 2018-06-25 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category.- Letter confirms salary of INR xxx per annum- Letter confirms full/time employment; FSW Work: 2 years and 7 months. CRS Foreign Work: 2 years and 7 months.

2017-12 to 2018-08 -IT Manager (NOC: 0213)- at CompanyD Group- eDoc# 236760350- Letter dated 2018-06-26 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category.- Letter confirms salary of RM xxx per month - Letter confirms full/time employment; FSW Work: 0 years and 9 months. CRS Foreign Work: 0 years and 9 months.

FSW Work: 1 year CRS Foreign Work: 3+ year(s) CRS Canadian Work: 1 year(s) - (REVIEW REQUIRED) ADAPTABILITY: 10 FSW Points PA studied in Canadian academic program PA has one year of work experience in Canada SETTLEMENT FUNDS: Appears To Meet

Q1: Do you think I need to send an LOE with my FSW eligibility points breakup?
Q2: Since he has mentioned "Review of employment record required regarding reference - eDoc", can we conclude that it is the reference letter he is not happy with?
Q3: If yes, can I send an LOE explaining the reason that I cant get it on the company letterhead?
 

Peacekeeper87

Champion Member
Jul 18, 2018
1,727
804
NOC Code......
0124
Hi Peacekeeper,

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have provided all the required docs, matching NOC codes, job duties etc. let me provide more insight on my case (sorry to make it long). Below is the complete case officer notes,

A11.2- CASE PROCESSING AGENT: Lock-in Date: 2018-08-08_Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.

****NOTE: Review of employment record required regarding reference - eDoc #xxx (CompanyA - holds 11 months work experience in Canada) A 11.2: Review Required R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS : Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA- FUNDS: APPEARS TO MEET FSW points total: 63 (Not sure how he rounded it off to 63) Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 451 CRS points minimum score for round: 451 CRS score at application (APR): 451 Total CRS Points Assessed I Verified: 411 (451 - 40 = 411, 40 points reduced which was claimed for the 1 year Canadian work experience) I have reviewed the following for CRS points: PA gained points as SINGLE at ITA for 3+ year(s) Foreign Work Experience with "CompanyC, edoc# xxx" & "CompanyD, edoc# xxx" PA gained points for Canadian Education Transcript Provided eDoc# xxx Diploma Provided eDoc# xxx

INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA: Not in Status NO ADVERSE INFORMATION
MEDICALS: All valid for 6 months or more PASSPORTS: All valid for 6 months

WORK EXPERIENCE: Lock-in Date: 2018-08-08 Primary Occupation: NOC 0213 Computer and Information Systems Managers EDUCATION CREDENTIALS PROVIDED: Bachelor's Degree: Computer Science; Postgraduate Diploma: Information Technology; Certificate: Cyberspace security

2008-09 to 2008-12- Technical Support Specialist (NOC: 2282)- at CompanyB - eDoc# xxx- Letter dated 2018-07-20 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category.- Letter confirms salary of CAD xxx per annum - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Canadian Work: 0 years and 4 months. (CompanyB - 4 months of canadian work experience)

2009-01 to 2009-11 -Technical Analyst (NOC: 2282) - at CompanyA - (REVIEW REQUIRED)- eDoc# xxx-Letter dated 2018-07-30 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category.- Letter confirms salary of CAD xxx per annum - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Canadian Work: 0 years and 11 months. (CompanyA - 11 months work experience in Canada)

2011-05 to 2013-11 - Deputy/IT Manager (NOC: 0213)- at CompanyC- eDoc# xxx- Letter dated 2018-06-25 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category.- Letter confirms salary of INR xxx per annum- Letter confirms full/time employment; FSW Work: 2 years and 7 months. CRS Foreign Work: 2 years and 7 months.

2017-12 to 2018-08 -IT Manager (NOC: 0213)- at CompanyD Group- eDoc# 236760350- Letter dated 2018-06-26 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category.- Letter confirms salary of RM xxx per month - Letter confirms full/time employment; FSW Work: 0 years and 9 months. CRS Foreign Work: 0 years and 9 months.

FSW Work: 1 year CRS Foreign Work: 3+ year(s) CRS Canadian Work: 1 year(s) - (REVIEW REQUIRED) ADAPTABILITY: 10 FSW Points PA studied in Canadian academic program PA has one year of work experience in Canada SETTLEMENT FUNDS: Appears To Meet

Q1: Do you think I need to send an LOE with my FSW eligibility points breakup?
Q2: Since he has mentioned "Review of employment record required regarding reference - eDoc", can we conclude that it is the reference letter he is not happy with?
Q3: If yes, can I send an LOE explaining the reason that I cant get it on the company letterhead?
Yes he/she seems to indeed have an issue with your reference letter for your Canadian experience, and the reason why you were deducted (temporarily) 15 points, as they couldn't not be verified yet. He didn't invalidate your experience, it's just that he couldn't verifiy it at the time being. So he only could verifiy 78-15=63 points.

Not having it on company letterhead makes perfect sense, and you should have provided an explanation upfront regarding that matter.
No need to send points breakup, as they do the calculation themselves based on your claims.
Upload LOE for why you couldn't get it on letterhead, and provide all company information.
 
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Shahanastar

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Oct 25, 2018
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Hi Peacekeeper,

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have provided all the required docs, matching NOC codes, job duties etc. let me provide more insight on my case (sorry to make it long). Below is the complete case officer notes,

A11.2- CASE PROCESSING AGENT: Lock-in Date: 2018-08-08_Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.

****NOTE: Review of employment record required regarding reference - eDoc #xxx (CompanyA - holds 11 months work experience in Canada) A 11.2: Review Required R75: FSW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS : Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA- FUNDS: APPEARS TO MEET FSW points total: 63 (Not sure how he rounded it off to 63) Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 451 CRS points minimum score for round: 451 CRS score at application (APR): 451 Total CRS Points Assessed I Verified: 411 (451 - 40 = 411, 40 points reduced which was claimed for the 1 year Canadian work experience) I have reviewed the following for CRS points: PA gained points as SINGLE at ITA for 3+ year(s) Foreign Work Experience with "CompanyC, edoc# xxx" & "CompanyD, edoc# xxx" PA gained points for Canadian Education Transcript Provided eDoc# xxx Diploma Provided eDoc# xxx

INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA: Not in Status NO ADVERSE INFORMATION
MEDICALS: All valid for 6 months or more PASSPORTS: All valid for 6 months

WORK EXPERIENCE: Lock-in Date: 2018-08-08 Primary Occupation: NOC 0213 Computer and Information Systems Managers EDUCATION CREDENTIALS PROVIDED: Bachelor's Degree: Computer Science; Postgraduate Diploma: Information Technology; Certificate: Cyberspace security

2008-09 to 2008-12- Technical Support Specialist (NOC: 2282)- at CompanyB - eDoc# xxx- Letter dated 2018-07-20 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category.- Letter confirms salary of CAD xxx per annum - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Canadian Work: 0 years and 4 months. (CompanyB - 4 months of canadian work experience)

2009-01 to 2009-11 -Technical Analyst (NOC: 2282) - at CompanyA - (REVIEW REQUIRED)- eDoc# xxx-Letter dated 2018-07-30 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category.- Letter confirms salary of CAD xxx per annum - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS Canadian Work: 0 years and 11 months. (CompanyA - 11 months work experience in Canada)

2011-05 to 2013-11 - Deputy/IT Manager (NOC: 0213)- at CompanyC- eDoc# xxx- Letter dated 2018-06-25 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category.- Letter confirms salary of INR xxx per annum- Letter confirms full/time employment; FSW Work: 2 years and 7 months. CRS Foreign Work: 2 years and 7 months.

2017-12 to 2018-08 -IT Manager (NOC: 0213)- at CompanyD Group- eDoc# 236760350- Letter dated 2018-06-26 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared NOC category.- Letter confirms salary of RM xxx per month - Letter confirms full/time employment; FSW Work: 0 years and 9 months. CRS Foreign Work: 0 years and 9 months.

FSW Work: 1 year CRS Foreign Work: 3+ year(s) CRS Canadian Work: 1 year(s) - (REVIEW REQUIRED) ADAPTABILITY: 10 FSW Points PA studied in Canadian academic program PA has one year of work experience in Canada SETTLEMENT FUNDS: Appears To Meet

Q1: Do you think I need to send an LOE with my FSW eligibility points breakup?
Q2: Since he has mentioned "Review of employment record required regarding reference - eDoc", can we conclude that it is the reference letter he is not happy with?
Q3: If yes, can I send an LOE explaining the reason that I cant get it on the company letterhead?
Don’t you get Canadian experience points only after completing 1 year of experience? If that’s the case, the experience being 11 months is the issue.
 

pgfswapp

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Apr 29, 2018
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Yes he/she seems to indeed have an issue with your reference letter for your Canadian experience, and the reason why you were deducted (temporarily) 15 points, as they couldn't not be verified yet. He didn't invalidate your experience, it's just that he couldn't verifiy it at the time being. So he only could verifiy 78-15=63 points.

Not having it on company letterhead makes perfect sense, and you should have provided an explanation upfront regarding that matter.
No need to send points breakup, as they do the calculation themselves based on your claims.
Upload LOE for why you couldn't get it on letterhead, and provide all company information.
Sure, I will raise a CSE form and send an LOE for why I couldn't get it on letterhead.

Do you think I should get the reference letter notarized here in India and then upload? (considering that its a Canadian employer?)

Thanks
 

pgfswapp

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Apr 29, 2018
37
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Don’t you get Canadian experience points only after completing 1 year of experience? If that’s the case, the experience being 11 months is the issue.
Yes, the points can be claimed only for 1 year completion. If you can read through the details, I have worked for 2 employers (CompanyA for 11 months and CompanyB for 4 months). Both under proper work permit.

1 year Canadian work experience gives me,
10 FSW Eligibility Points under adaptability
and
40 CRS points
 

Peacekeeper87

Champion Member
Jul 18, 2018
1,727
804
NOC Code......
0124
Sure, I will raise a CSE form and send an LOE for why I couldn't get it on letterhead.

Do you think I should get the reference letter notarized here in India and then upload? (considering that its a Canadian employer?)

Thanks
Notarizing it won't be of much help. Just make sure the info in it is accurate.
 

Shahanastar

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Oct 25, 2018
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Yes, the points can be claimed only for 1 year completion. If you can read through the details, I have worked for 2 employers (CompanyA for 11 months and CompanyB for 4 months). Both under proper work permit.

1 year Canadian work experience gives me,
10 FSW Eligibility Points under adaptability
and
40 CRS points
Yes, so the analyst has escalated the 11 month experience documents for review. Once this has been done by cleared by the officer, these points will be validated and you’ll be fine. This is common.
 
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pgfswapp

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Yes, so the analyst has escalated the 11 month experience documents for review. Once this has been done by cleared by the officer, these points will be validated and you’ll be fine. This is common.
Sounds good. Have you seen smililar cases were the points dropped because of employments docs and they raised again by the next officer?

And what was the average wait time for the next officer to review?
 

Shahanastar

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Oct 25, 2018
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Sounds good. Have you seen smililar cases were the points dropped because of employments docs and they raised again by the next officer?

And what was the average wait time for the next officer to review?
Yes. As I said, this is common. The points verified by the analyst are not reviewed in detail whereas escalated documents will be reviewed and confirmed if they are in order. You can expect a delay of 1-3 months.
 
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pgfswapp

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Apr 29, 2018
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Yes. As I said, this is common. The points verified by the analyst are not reviewed in detail whereas escalated documents will be reviewed and confirmed if they are in order. You can expect a delay of 1-3 months.
Alright, hope to get a response soon then. Thanks