Makes perfect sense. The USA already does this. Generally, a dual citizen of the USA must enter on their US passport.links18 said:https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2016/08/18/ottawas-new-air-travel-rule-catches-dual-citizens-by-surprise.html
However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there. Most U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger U.S. nationality.
Simply because other countries do the same does not automatically mean it makes sense at all, let alone for Canada in particular. Canada already has systems in place for identity verification and I see no logical reason to introduce this change other than a money grab. What purpose does a Canadian passport serve that is not already being served? What is special about Canadian dual citizens that is different from Canadian permanent residents that this should be required for one and not the other? Or is Canada going to start issuing passports to PRs now?zardoz said:Makes perfect sense. The USA already does this. Generally, a dual citizen of the USA must enter on their US passport.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html
I believe around the same time, Canadian PRs will need to show the PR card to board flights. It is essentially the same thing - PRs show their Canadian PR card. Citizens show their Canadian passportnmclean said:What is special about Canadian dual citizens that is different from Canadian permanent residents that this should be required for one and not the other? Or is Canada going to start issuing passports to PRs now?
I think it has always been the case of airlines checking the PR card along with the foreign passport before boarding the flight to Canada. Without valid PR card or valid travel document, they won't let the person board the flight.keesio said:I believe around the same time, Canadian PRs will need to show the PR card to board flights. It is essentially the same thing - PRs show their Canadian PR card. Citizens show their Canadian passport
Not always. My wife has been able to board with just showing her US passport or NEXUS card. She almost never has to present her PR card at any time when flying back to Canada. Now the question is if the clamp down on that later this fall.thecoolguysam said:I think it has always been the case of airlines checking the PR card along with the foreign passport before boarding the flight to Canada. Without valid PR card or valid travel document, they won't let the person board the flight.
Hmmmm usually when you have nexus, CBP/CBSA usually don't ask for the additional documentation but they might.keesio said:Not always. My wife has been able to board with just showing her US passport or NEXUS card. She almost never has to present her PR card at any time when flying back to Canada. Now the question is if the clamp down on that later this fall.
Yup, that is true. You must carry a valid passport with your NEXUS card just in case you get sent to secondary. However, they don't make mention of a PR card. Nor do they mention which passport. Just a valid passport. It makes it sound like my wife and I can travel with our NEXUS and US passports (and the she doesn't need her PR card and that I don't need my Canadian passport).thecoolguysam said:I remember that when I was issued nexus, there was a nexus rules paper stating to carry additional immigration documents like passport etc along with nexus card.
True, there are no further details mentioned.keesio said:Yup, that is true. You must carry a valid passport with your NEXUS card just in case you get sent to secondary. However, they don't make mention of a PR card. Nor do they mention which passport. Just a valid passport. It makes it sound like my wife and I can travel with our NEXUS and US passports (and the she doesn't need her PR card and that I don't need my Canadian passport).
Do you have a source on that? If they stop accepting all other proof of status for PRs, then that would be just as ridiculous. Especially right after eTA was developed to cover validity concerns - ideally, that should be expanded to all travelers instead. A small $7 "cost recovery" charge isn't very profitable though, I suppose - better to force $160 on every dual citizen.keesio said:I believe around the same time, Canadian PRs will need to show the PR card to board flights. It is essentially the same thing - PRs show their Canadian PR card. Citizens show their Canadian passport
As far as I am aware, the only two acceptable travel documents for boarding an international flight as a PR have been a PR card or a PRTD. The visa-exempt passport was a loophole, well on it's way to being closed. What else were you thinking of?nmclean said:Do you have a source on that? If they stop accepting all other proof of status for PRs, then that would be just as ridiculous. Especially right after eTA was developed to cover validity concerns - ideally, that should be expanded to all travelers instead. A small $7 "cost recovery" charge isn't very profitable though, I suppose - better to force $160 on every dual citizen.
US citizens are exempt from.needing at ETA to enter Canada by air, so theoretically a dual US/Canada citizen can still fly to Canada without Canadian passport.zardoz said:As far as I am aware, the only two acceptable travel documents for boarding an international flight as a PR have been a PR card or a PRTD. The visa-exempt passport was a loophole, well on it's way to being closed. What else were you thinking of?
Yes, this is the last remaining loophole I think.links18 said:US citizens are exempt from.needing at ETA to enter Canada by air, so theoretically a dual US/Canada citizen can still fly to Canada without Canadian passport.