Does everyone have to interview?

[canadiangirl78]

Hello. I'm a Canadian citizen sponsoring my spouse. My brother in law wants to join us in Canada. He's a Mexican citizen who has been undocumented in the US since he was a small child. He has a business degree (BA) and is applying as a cook. He's been a cook for several years. He scores 69 points. His wife is American and a licensed vocational nurse. My main concern is he will have to do an interview in Mexico. If he's denied he will not be able to re-enter the US where his wife and other family are. He has no ties in Mexico. Does everyone get called in for an interview? Any chance he can interview in the US?

 

[dnyfyn]

Ok tricky question.

Not everybody gets a invitation for interview; some people pass without interview.

If you are called for interview it is a MUST to attend to interview. The decision can go either way.

Ok regarding the visa office. He can request the VO of his preference. However he should have legal documented status to be in that place. At the same time remember when you file the application you need to tell all the addresses you have lived after 18yrs of age.

 

[canadiangirl78]

Ok tricky question.

Not everybody gets a invitation for interview; some people pass without interview.

If you are called for interview it is a MUST to attend to interview. The decision can go either way.

Ok regarding the visa office. He can request the VO of his preference. However he should have legal documented status to be in that place. At the same time remember when you file the application you need to tell all the addresses you have lived after 18yrs of age.

So since he's undocumented in the US he would have to go to Mexico. Perhaps his wife should be the primary applicant but even though lpn is one of the federal skilled occupations she doesn't get enough points because you don't need a college degree to get lpn credentials.

 

[dnyfyn]

I will be straight forward.

Is he an illegal immigrant in US? if so he needs to apply in Mexico. Else USA. At least through marriage if he can show some status?

 

[canadiangirl78]

I will be straight forward.

Is he an illegal immigrant in US? if so he needs to apply in Mexico. Else USA. At least through marriage if he can show some status?

Undocumented is a better way of saying illegal but yes.

But he doesn't need to be in Mexico. I was just wondering if he has to interview in Mexico and I think yes he does.

 

[professional 1]

Undocumented is a better way of saying illegal but yes.

But he doesn't need to be in Mexico. I was just wondering if he has to interview in Mexico and I think yes he does.

The interview is not the only concern here. Looks like your relative wanna choose the visa office in Mexico to process his application not the Buffalo visa office in the USA "the visa office of his country of residence".

If your relative was legally admitted to the United States for at least one year when he first entered there, He still has the option to choose the visa office in Buffalo to process his application. Then if asked for an interview, it is gonna be conducted at the Buffalo visa office.

However, there are so many other concerns:

If he is eligible to apply for Buffalo, he will be required to provide the following documents:

1- Police clearance from the USA, which means that once he applies for it, his information will be recorded by the FBI and the immigration department in the USA. As a result, he is gonna find the immigration officers at his door to arrest him and deport him from the USA.

2- He will be asked to send tax documents regarding his job in the USA if he ever had any, which is gonna turn out to the same results as the first point by reporting him to the US immigration department because the system is connected.

3- If he has never worked legally in the united states, he will be asked by the Buffalo visa office to update his work experience information since he left his last legal job. At this point, the Canadian visa office is gonna know that he has been out of status for long time in the USA. This is gonna give a very bad impression about him at the Buffalo visa office "does not respect the rules...etc" . It might make him look like a person who is not gonna be able to establish economically in Canada as he has been already staying illegally in the US for so long.

The last point I would like to mention is:

Do not forget that Canada already suffers and strongly fights to get red of its "illegal immigrants", so do you think they are gonna welcome illegal immigrants from any other country ?

The issue here is way beyond being asked to attend an interview at the visa office, your relative should take all of the above issues and more in his consideration before he applies to immigrate to Canada.

By the way, even if he applies for the visa office in Mexico, as a principal applicant or a dependent family member, he still has to provide a US police clearance to be submitted with his application.

Good luck.

 

[canadiangirl78]

The interview is not the only concern here. Looks like your relative wanna choose the visa office in Mexico to process his application not the Buffalo visa office in the USA "the visa office of his country of residence".

If your relative was legally admitted to the United States for at least one year when he first entered there, He still has the option to choose the visa office in Buffalo to process his application. Then if asked for an interview, it is gonna be conducted at the Buffalo visa office.

However, there are so many other concerns:

If he is eligible to apply for Buffalo he will be required to provide the following documents:

1- Police clearance from the USA, which means that once he applies for it, his information will be recorded by the FBI and the immigration department in the USA. As a result, he is gonna find the immigration officers at his door to arrest him and deport him from the USA.

2- He will be asked to send tax documents regarding his job in the USA if he ever had any, which is gonna turn out to the same results as the first point by reporting him to the US immigration department because the system is connected.

3- If he has never worked legally in the united states, he will be asked by the Buffalo visa office to update his work experience information since he left his last legal job. At this point, the Canadian visa office is gonna know that he has been out of status for long time in the USA. This is gonna give a very bad impression about him at the Buffalo visa office. It might make him look like a person who is not gonna be able to establish economically in Canada as he has already stayed illegally in the US for so long.

The last point I would like to mention is:

Do not forget that Canada already suffers and strongly fights to get red of its "illegal immigrants", so do you think they are gonna welcome illegal immigrants from any other country ?

The issue here is way beyond being asked to attend an interview at the visa office, you relative should take all of the above issues and more in his consideration before he applies to immigrate to Canada.

Good luck.

Canada does not penalize Mexican citizens for living illegally in the United States. It doesn't hurt their application or make them look bad whatsoever. That is a fact and your lawyer will tell you that fact. The FBI police clearance is not a concern for undocumented citizens. It does not lead to deportation. Tax documents are also not a concern because undocumented immigrants file taxes legally with an ITIN number. Filing taxes does not lead to deportation. Work experience is not looked at as legal or illegal. Like I said before, being undocumented in the United States does not affect the application at all. Many undocumented immigrants from the US go to Canada with a work visa or as sponsored family members. I hope you have more knowledge on this topic now. And yes the interview in Mexico is the only concern.

 

[professional 1]

Canada does not penalize Mexican citizens for living illegally in the United States. It doesn't hurt their application or make them look bad whatsoever. That is a fact and your lawyer will tell you that fact. The FBI police clearance is not a concern for undocumented citizens. It does not lead to deportation. Tax documents are also not a concern because undocumented immigrants file taxes legally with an ITIN number. Filing for taxes does not lead to deportation. Work experience is not looked at is legal or illegal. Like I said before, being undocumented in the United States does not affect the application at all. Many undocumented immigrants from the US go to Canada with a work visa or as sponsored family members. I hope you have more knowledge on this topic now. And yes the interview in Mexico is the only concern.

Calm down man, and do whatever you wanna do. It is up to you.

 

[canadiangirl78]

Calm down man, and do whatever you wanna do. It is up to you.

I am a woman and I don't need to calm down. I was just explaining some facts to you since you were misinformed on the topic.

 

[professional 1]

I am a woman and I don't need to calm down. I was just explaining some facts to you since you were misinformed on the topic.

I do not think really that I am misinformed about this issue. The system in Canada is very similar to the one in the united states. I am trying to help you out not to put you down.

When you apply for any federal or provincial document in Canada, the first thing you will be asked for is your current legal status. They take your information already and if something wrong there, you find immigration Canada right away at your door. I do not think the system in the US is different.

 

[canadiangirl78]

I do not think really that I am misinformed about this issue. The system in Canada is very similar to the one in the united states. I am trying to help you out not to put you down.

When you apply for any government or provincial document in Canada, the first thing you will be asked for is your current legal status. They take your information already and if something wrong there, you find immigration Canada right away at your door. I do not think the system in the US is different.

I'm a US citizen as well living in the US and my husband is an undocumented immigrant and I got him a PR card in 2010 in less than 3 months while he was living in the US. No interview. He files taxes. Has gotten FBI clearance twice. We are also applying for a green card. The Canadian and American immigration systems are VERY VERY different.

 

[professional 1]

I'm a US citizen as well living in the US and my husband is an undocumented immigrant and I got him a PR card in 2010 in less than 3 months while he was living in the US. No interview. He files taxes. Has gotten FBI clearance twice. We are also applying for a green card. The Canadian and American immigration systems are VERY VERY different.

Wish you the best of luck.

 

[canadiangirl78]

Wish you the best of luck.

Thank you for the well wishes. And I hope that you do not advise anyone on these topics again as you may do great damage.

 

[professional 1]

Thank you for the well wishes. And I hope that you do not advise anyone on these topics again as you may do great damage.

This is my last post at this topic because it looks like the discussion is so pointless here.

Wishing you the best of luck does not mean that I agree with a single word you have claimed. filing for tax by Illegal residents in the united sates can only happen in two ways:

Either getting a fake Social security number " An obvious Fraud" OR using the W-7 form to get a temporary tax number that can be used for the tax purposes.

However, I am imagining your relative justifying to the Canadian immigration officers either in a face to face interview or a letter his reasons of faking a social security number !!! and how would that make him a good prospective citizen for Canada


OR:

If he used the temporary tax number:

I am imagining how would he give his information regarding the job reference with an employer who has been hiring an illegal immigrant "which is against the law", and furthermore,when this employer is contacted by the Canadian visa office he is gonna support him by confirming that he proudly broke the law by hiring him and taking the full legal responsibility of doing so !!!!


You think either case is gonna pass smoothly when they assess his Canadian PR application ! you think this is gonna make him look so good to the Canadian immigration officers and create a very good impression about him being a future Canadian citizen who is supposed to be obeying and respecting the Canadian laws!!!!

He is going to be applying under the federal Skilled workers and not the family class, which means that they will deeply verify his work experience documents and background.


Regardless of what you are gonna say, I am not responding anymore to this topic because it became so pointless to keep going here.

 

[canadiangirl78]

Canadian immigration officers do not discuss social security numbers, ITIN numbers, US taxes and how they are filed, or working legally or illegally in the US. Being illegal in the US is not a factor for becoming a legal Canadian resident. I know this because I have several Brazilian friends who got work visas in Canada after being illegal in the US for many years and working illegally as well. And I also know from my own research. Many employers are unaware of the immigration status of their employees and are not going to have any consequences by talking to a Canadian immigration officer as the two systems (Canada and US) do not cross. Canada verifies work experience and education not legal status. My relative already got notarized letters from his employers so no worries there. I asked you not to advise people because you were absolutely wrong about FBI clearance and tax documents leading to US deportation. There is no risk of that whatsoever. If you research you will see that many Mexican citizens who were illegal in the US are now legal in Canada. In fact it should work in their favor that the are trying to rectify their situation especially because most are illegal because their parents brought them as children. That is why the US President, Barack Obama, supports The Dream Act which would provide amnesty to young people who are undocumented. Thanks and have a great weekend!