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difference between security and criminality check... who conducts what?

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what is the difference between the security check and the criminality check in the background check? who conducts these checks?
 

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Criminality check: Your police certificate, RCMP, and Interpol being asked if you've committed crimes.

Security check: Asking CSIS and their allies if they believe you're involved with extremists, terrorists, etc.
thank you! at what point do they start the security check if its needed?
 

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Yeah I have seen different answers posted about this lol
im assuming they are all different, as background check is criminality and security assessment and eligibility is its own assessment based on notes...
 
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im assuming they are all different, as background check is criminality and security assessment and eligibility is its own assessment based on notes...
Yeah this is what I thought as well! I have ready so many different things though! Wish we could find a definite answer!
 

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Just to note, the security check is ALWAYS needed. It doesn't matter where you are from or what your background is.
I figured as much ... just wasnt sure based off first reply to my question
 

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AIUI, the 'background check' is 'politically correct' speak for 'we are checking all of our security and criminal databases to see if you are on it, are a known associate of anyone that is on it, have a name and date of birth the same or close to anyone that is on it etc.

This all takes place in 'background check'.

As to precisely WHO conducts them - dunno. This is the sort of check that I suspect the NSA would do in the USA, or GCHQ would do in the UK (i.e. the 'five eyes') - although they may simply open their query tools to the embassy staff in question to do the checks, or perhaps the embassy staff have to send it off to the security agency - either way, you ain't gonna get them to say one way or the other!

Mine sailed through within 2 days, but then I have a very unusual surname, so easily checked.
 

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here's a good piece of info from @Eagle333 about BGCs:

"Background checks are done through many companies such as and not limited to these 6.

1. CSIS: Security screening, Espionage and Foreign interference, Terrorism, Weapon of mass destruction,
Human trafficking, CSIS works with many agencies around the globe and they like the FBI or CIA. I happened to contact them in 2013 when I was sponsoring my spouse because the background checks were taking too long and they responded me. So you can actually write to them and request to know about your background checks

2. INTERPOL:

•Help officials – senior law enforcers, policy makers and decision makers – deal more effectively with uncertainty and new challenges;
•Provide timely warning of threats;
•Support operational activities and complex investigations.

Types of analysis

Criminal intelligence analysis is divided into operational (or tactical) and strategic analysis.

The basic skills required are similar, the two categories differ with regard to the level of detail and the type of client for whom the products
are designed. Operational analysis aims to achieve a specific law enforcement outcome. This might be an arrest, seizure, forfeiture of assets or money gained from criminal activities, or the disruption of a criminal group.

Operational analytical support includes:
•Identifying links between suspects, and their involvement in crimes and criminal activity;
•Identifying key investigative or information gaps;
•Preparing profiles of known or suspected criminals.

Strategic analysis is intended to inform higher level decision makers, and the benefits are realized over the long term.

The intention is to provide early warning of threats and to support senior decision makers in preparing their organizations to deal with emerging criminal issues. This might include allocating resources to different types of crime, or increasing training in a particular crime-fighting technique.

Strategic analysis includes the identification of:
•Crime trends and patterns;
•Emerging threats;
•The potential impact of external factors such as technology, demographics or economics on crime.

In every country there is an Interpol office.

3. RCMP: You may need a criminal record check for various purposes, including: employment, adoption, international travel, volunteer work, citizenship, name change, student placement or to obtain a record suspension

4. If you were an ex Policeman, ex military , ex diplomat, ex government member, ex secret serviceman, your checks will be very deep than a simple citizen

5. Number of trips you did to some red flagged regions of the world, if there is any immigration laws you have been broken in the past, any warrant against you in the countries you visited more that 6 months.

6. Your full name and date of birth sound familiar like someone they have been looking for around the world

During this period you can now understand why CIC has no control over your file anymore and they usually don't like to reply to some emails of why the process is taking too long. They will only tell you we are waiting for background checks to finish. It can take from one months to some extend 12 months because there is no way to control this period.

7. Anytime your file does not make sense about dates, locations, occupation, Fake school certificate or marriage these things will make the VO to extend the processing time in order to work with the issuing government of any documentation your provided. These are good ingredient of an interview.

So CSIS is the leading government third party that works with other agencies around the world. There was one guy in Italy who had a criminal conviction but he hid it in the end CIC found out through CSIS and this person was charged with misrepresentation. based on the notes they might have left on his profile. A lady in Ghana produced Fake school certificate and CIC found it and they did not trust any documents she sent, her file was rejected and banned from applying to come to Canada. There are so many stories we can tell. When our files are in background checks a lot do happen. If you research a lot you will learn a lot too. ""
 

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So, if a person has a visitor visa of Canada, Time of check background will be faster??Just Curious a little.
No. My husband is in canada on a visitor visa and his background check has been in process for more than three months. Being here in canada has no bearing on anything
 
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So, if a person has a visitor visa of Canada, Time of check background will be faster??Just Curious a little.
No, it will not be faster. IRCC will not look at previous checks done for a TRV app, as they are not up-to-date or as in-depth as the checks performed for a PR app.
 
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