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Delivery without insurance

hambousha

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Please advise
A lady holding PR but did not apply for health isnurance as she soft landed and went back home.
She is pregnant
If she got back to Canada to deliver her baby
Would the costs of delivery be covered without insurance ?
 

torontosm

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Apr 3, 2013
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Please advise
A lady holding PR but did not apply for health isnurance as she soft landed and went back home.
She is pregnant
If she got back to Canada to deliver her baby
Would the costs of delivery be covered without insurance ?
Which province is she in? Does she intend to live in Canada after the delivery?

Most provinces require you to live there for 3 months before coverage starts, and virtually all require you to live in the province for 6/12 months in a year. If she doesn't intend to permanently reside in Canada, then she is not eligible for health coverage and would have to pay for the delivery herself. Even if she did use her health card, she may be subject to having to repay the government in the future + penalties.
 

hambousha

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Wow. That is new to me
So lets say she has a health insurance and gave birth there then left
The government might ask her to pay this back?

And if not having insurance; can she go to the emergency while giving birth to she would be covered ?
 

Bs65

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Mar 22, 2016
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Nothing comes for free, if she does not meet the healthcare residency requirement for the province she is in then the costs could become recoverable by the province. How this might work no idea but maybe when someone returns or enrolls again either in same or different province having failed any previous residency requirement.

This is why each province has such rules to ensure those who pay into the system do not subsidise those who do not follow the rules, not much to ask really.

As for attending emergency cannot personally answer that one but same likely applies nothing is free given would you expect a visitor to be covered without insurance in same scenario for free. Yes they may well get seen to assuming a real emergency but that’s all, once the birth has happened and moved to a maternity section the costs could really start If any complications from the ‘emergency’
 
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canuck78

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Yes your child will be delivered if you show up at the hospital but you will also be approached for payment information. You didn't qualify to apply to a health card if you were only doing a soft landing. If you don't intend to stay over 6 months you should be prepared to pay for your delivery. Around 10k for a vaginal delivery with epidural and around 20k for c-section. Could be more for complications. You may also have problems flying to Canada so close to delivery. Some provinces have an up to 3 month wait until you qualify for health coverage. In Canada health care is free because people pay through their taxes. If you don't file taxes why shouldn't you have to pay for healthcare.
 
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Bs65

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I am curious what is the case if she delivers home then go to canada,will the child automatically be a resident or not?
Just to expand on what Canuck said if a baby is born outside Canada to Canadian citizen parents or one of parents is Canadian then the child will be a Canadian at birth. If a child is born to PRs outside Canada then the PRs will need to sponsor the child to become a PR given the new born gains no residency advantage in Canada if born to PRs outside Canada.

In either case of course the new born will require travel documentation to travel to Canada whether is as a new citizen with a Canadian passport or a passport for the country of birth together with a TRV if not visa exempt.
 
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Wolverine17

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Just to expand on what Canuck said if a baby is born outside Canada to Canadian citizen parents or one of parents is Canadian then the child will be a Canadian at birth. If a child is born to PRs outside Canada then the PRs will need to sponsor the child to become a PR given the new born gains no residency advantage in Canada if born to PRs outside Canada.

In either case of course the new born will require travel documentation to travel to Canada whether is as a new citizen with a Canadian passport or a passport for the country of birth together with a TRV if not visa exempt.
How easy is it to obtain pr for a baby born outside canada if the parents are permanent residents?