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Nkk

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Hello there,
Anyone knows what should I do? I landed twice,stayed for a very short time with a friend and got my PR but couldn't move to Canada permanantly as I had to prepare to get a canadian license and find a job and I did not submit any list of goods too .I am ready to move now and bought new set of furniture for sending to Canada. can I submit the list when I enter at airort or I have to pay tax?
Thanks for advice
 

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Nkk said:
Hello there,
Anyone knows what should I do? I landed twice,stayed for a very short time with a friend and got my PR but couldn't move to Canada permanantly as I had to prepare to get a canadian license and find a job and I did not submit any list of goods too .I am ready to move now and bought new set of furniture for sending to Canada. can I submit the list when I enter at airort or I have to pay tax?
Thanks for advice
You will pay tax and duties, if any on any new items bought after your original landing.
 

Nkk

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Hi,
Thanks for reply ..but are you sure? ??? as it was said by custom officer that I could bring my personal belongings or list later on !! anyway to confirm it ??
 

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Nkk said:
Hi,
Thanks for reply ..but are you sure? ??? as it was said by custom officer that I could bring my personal belongings or list later on !! anyway to confirm it ??
Except the goods had to be in your possession (even if abroad) and used. A new set of furniture bought after "landing" was not in your possession and it was not used.
 

Nkk

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Great .. what a relieve ! So if I open it up and use it for a while it will be an used item and can be added to my personal belonging list , then... Where and when the list should be submitted? at airport to the customs officer !!?
My third time to Travel to Canada but it's the frist time to Ship any goods there.
Thank you
 

Mary2009

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Hi...

I think it worth your time to give them a call...
explain to the operator your situation...

Then listen to what he/she says.

204-983-3500
506-636-5064
(Monday to Friday (08:00 AM - 4:00 PM local time)
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_CA-ON.aspx?city=Ottawa


When you call them... post your findings here (for others to learn from your experience).

Anyway.. Just a suggestion,

Thanks,

Mary
 

Mary2009

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Good luck dear...

Make sure you explain to them "accurately" your status...

You won't benefit anything if you trick them in a phone call... then they trick you at your arrival day :D

Thanks,

Mary
 

Nkk

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Hello,
Thanks Mary . I called and explained my status. According to officer I will be question when I submit my list of goods in next landing and mostly it will be accepted considering my situation .
Thanks for Tel #.
 

Mary2009

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Great to hear that it worked up for you...
Thanks for updating the forum :D


Mary
 

Nkk

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Hello Mary,
I am not sure how is the cost of furniture or kitchen utensill in Toronto ...avarage to good quality and reasonobale price? I don't know what to bring with me...are there many malls or sale seasons to buy such items in good price..
Could you give me some idea ?
good day
Nahid
 

Mary2009

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Nkk said:
Hello Mary,
I am not sure how is the cost of furniture or kitchen utensill in Toronto ...avarage to good quality and reasonobale price?
This link might give you some idea:
http://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dkitchen&field-keywords=kitchen+utensil&x=22&y=20

I don't know what to bring with me...are there many malls or sale
seasons to buy such items in good price.
I think so... but I'm not sure...
Also I heard that many immigrants buy used furniture at the beginning of their life...
Used doesn't mean bad quality...
People (including Canadians) buy used furniture from
http://Kijiji.ca
and
http://www.valuevillage.ca/


Could you give me some idea ?
good day
Nahid
 

Nkk

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Here is the reply to my email by CBSA
" Thanks for email.
Before you return to Canada with the intention to establish a residence for more than 12 months, you will be entitled to claim duty- and tax-free importation of her personal and household effects as long as you have owned, possessed, and used them before arriving in Canada . You must prepare a list (preferably typed), in duplicate, of all household and personal goods you are bringing into the country. Your list should describe the goods, giving such details as the value, make, model, and serial number of each item, particularly high-value items. Please note that we require the current value of goods, not the replacement value. For general household items such as books or clothing, a group listing and overall value is sufficient (e.g., kitchen utensils – $000). The list should be divided into two parts showing which items are accompanying the owner at the time of arrival and which items are to arrive at a later date as “goods to follow.”



When you arrive in Canada , you will have to give your list of goods to the border services officer, even if you do not have the goods with you at the time. Based on the list of goods you submit, the officer will complete Form B4, Personal Effects Accounting Document, for you, assign a file number to your B4 form, and give you a copy of the completed form as a receipt. You will need to present your copy of the form to claim free importation of your unaccompanied goods when they arrive.

Publication BSF5087, Moving Back to Canada , which can be found on our Web site at http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5087-eng.html , provides information about the B4 forms for people returning to resume residence in Canada .

Memorandum D2-2-1, Settlers' Effects - Tariff Item No. 9807.00.00, which can be found on our Web site at http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-2-1-eng.html , provides information about Form B4 (Personal Effects Accounting Document) for people settling in Canada. It states the following:

39. Only goods that were declared and listed as goods to follow on the settler’s original Form B4 are eligible for duty- and tax-free importation at a later time under tariff item No. 9807.00.00. There is no time limit for importing goods to follow that were listed on the settler’s Form B4.



Therefore, only items that are reported and listed as goods to follow on the settler’s original B4 are eligible for duty and tax-free importation at a later date. Should you wish to add items to the goods-to-follow list that was previously submitted, those additional goods will be subject to duties and taxes.



For an overview of the laws, restrictions, and entitlements that affect people intending to settle in Canada , we encourage you to consult our brochure entitled "Settling in Canada ," found at http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5114-eng.html



If you need more information, we suggest that you contact the Border Information Service (BIS) for assistance. You can access the BIS line free of charge throughout Canada by calling 1-800-461-9999. If you are calling from outside Canada , you can access the BIS line by calling 204-983-3500 or 506-636-5064 (long-distance charges will apply). If you call during regular business hours (8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. local time, Monday to Friday, except holidays), you can speak directly to an agent by pressing “0” at any time.



We trust this information is useful to you. Thank you for contacting the Canada Border Services Agency."
 

Mary2009

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Most of their reply is a copy and paste from these pages:
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-3-2-eng.pdf
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5113-eng.html

in addition to the pages they mentioned :
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5087-eng.html
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5114-eng.html

It's a good thing you called them, thought :)

Thanks,

Mary