Convention Refugee on the basis of Religion
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What if he becomes a christian and let his/her relatives know about that through social medias and start to receive death threats and then apply for asylum ? Will it be acceptable ?
Read what we are saying. He needs evidence. We are trying to help here, but if you dont want to take our advise then we can't.
A few questions for you....
- Is he attempting to flee persecution in his current country of residence?
- How long since he has lived in his home country (it would help to know what country that is)?
- If you claim persecution for being an atheist and then submit a baptismal certificate as evidence, does that make sense to you? (Hint, your basis if claim needs to be believable).
- Does he have a TRV for Canada?
- Why would someone who is in fear for his life go out of his way to point it out to friends and family he plans to leave a religion? (Having lived for extended periods in countries with the same sorts of laws and persecution, no one flagrantly goes around announcing it just to prove a point)
Gathering Evidence
Identity
You must show evidence of who you are by submitting high-quality copies of any official, original documents which include your name and date of birth on them. For example, you can submit high-quality copies of a passport, national identity card, birth certificate, marriage certificate, school transcript or certificate, driver's license, military document, or professional and religious membership cards. It is not necessary to provide the RPD with your original documents but you must be ready to produce them when requested by the RPD. You must also bring your original documents to your hearing.
Relevant Evidence
You should also submit other available documents that you feel are relevant to your claim and help show that your claim should be accepted. Depending on the nature of your refugee claim, this evidence may help to show:
- that you are credible;
- that you have a genuine fear of persecution in your country;
- that the risk you face in your country is personal, and not generalized;
- that the government in your country is unable to protect you, and/or
- that you could not reasonably or safely live in another region of your country
Conditions in your Country
This type of evidence includes reports from well-respected sources that documents country conditions that may relate to your claim such as political, social, cultural, economic, and human rights conditions. The presiding member at your hearing will use this information when making a decision on your claim.
The IRB produces National Documentation Packages (NDPs) for every country, and updates them on a regular basis. An NDP is a compilation of publicly available documents, and each NDP provides full citations to help you locate the documents that are not available on the IRB website. It is also your responsibility to check the IRB website for the newest version of the NDP for your home country prior to your hearing. You do not need to submit into evidence anything from these NDPs. They are considered as part of the evidence submitted in each claim.
The member may also decide to use other documents as well, for example, other reports produced by theIRB Research Directorate, media articles or reports from human rights organizations. Copies of any additional documents which the member finds useful will be sent to you before your hearing.
Witnesses
You may bring witnesses to your hearing if you think this will help your claim. A witness is a person who knows about your claim and can provide information that will help the member make a decision. Witnesses must be ready to answer questions about the information they provide at your hearing (their testimony). If you would like to have a witness, you must submit the following information about each witness, in writing no later than 10 days before the date of your hearing:
- their contact information (address, telephone number and fax number);
- a short statement on the purpose of their testimony and what it will be about;
- how long their testimony will take;
- your relationship to the witness;
- whether you want them to testify in person, by videoconference or by telephone; and
- whether they need an interpreter, and if so, the language and dialect they will use.
- If the witness is an expert, you must also give information about their qualifications and include a report that summarizes their testimony and that must be signed by the witness.
Link - https://irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/applying-refugee-protection/Pages/index3.aspx
- He is an expatriate who is working in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and he is native of Pakistan. His wife is Diplomat at the Embassy of Pakistan with strong ties with other diplomats of the same Embassies around the world ?
- He was born and brought up in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
- So that was typing error, he was born to the Muslim Family and became very critical of Islam Religion by the age of 23 and since then he was subject to physical and verbal abuse from his family
- Currently he has a multiple entry visit visa for Canada which is valid for 9 years now
- His wife checked his laptop internet browsing history when he was finding churches for baptism and also many times he said to his wife and siblings that he wants to renounce Islam as this is not what he believes the true religion. Also when he was in Canada, he tried to get baptism but his wife got the clue and stopped him from doing this. Now he is facing death threats from religious clerks in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia as his wife informed them and she is saying that she will also inform the religious authorities in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, so his activities are being monitored on the daily basis and his life is under the threat. He had repent his sin , in order to save his life but day by day his life is becoming tough.
So he has been in Canada before? This get's better every time you type a reply. Why did he not claim asylum the first time then? Since he has already been to Canada, chances of him claiming asylum now are slim to none. You say as well he was born in Saudi but he is a native of Pakistan. I'm sorry, you keep changing your story to suit an agenda. Others can reply now to this thread, but I am done. Good luck
His wife being a diplomat will probably be an issue. Did he receive his TRV as the spouse of a diplomat? If he has not lived in Pakistan, that could also pose a problem for his claim. Difficult to prove persecution if you haven’t lived in your home country to begin with.
I hope that he is not thinking that he will be guaranteed asylum like that teen on the news recently.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4846740/rahaf-alqunun-canada-saudi-women/
https://globalnews.ca/news/4846740/rahaf-alqunun-canada-saudi-women/
Would discourage this. It appears more as a desperate way to secure refugee status which still could be refused putting his life in more danger. It is more likely that someone becoming an atheist stays an atheist. Any quick conversion to another religion doesn't seem genuine especially if you are a refugee claimant.
The big issue is he hasn't tried to live in his native country Pakistan. The risk to his life is in a 3rd country. I would consult a good Canadian immigration attorney who isn't just telling you what you want to get your money.
Agree with canuck78, the action of letting others know “on purpose” something that may endanger you looks like you meant for them to want to threaten you and will have a negative impact. If there is no solid proof, don’t make one up.
The current proof this person has must be the one used.