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purplesnow said:
5 years to get a bachelor? usually can get a masters in 5 years, that would bump up the points to above 450 along with good English scores and 1 year of experience.
With a 12 month internship to secure a good job right after I graduated. I didn't just come to Canada to live off of income assistance lol.
I now have all the blocks I wanted to lead a good life in Canada, except I don't even know if I will be here in 2 years time. Same goes with a lot of the other PGWP holders..
 
mead said:
its definitely flawed there is no visibility for NOC or profession. Just age english and experience. That experience could be anything . so if all young cooks apply middle age nurses may not get ITA if they have same english language ability. Leave LMIA aside for a moment . Will EE handle influx of all cooks but no nurses or any other profession? Answer is no because EE doesnt see NOC /profession. There are a lot of flaws in the system. Since ur on the positive side u dont see it.

The only way is PNP for specific NOC holders. I might be wrong?

Either way, PNP takes years lol, at least in AB.
 
amamh said:
Absolute horseshit. They take now only 450 points + people with Ontario PT nomination or job offers.
lol that was a sarcastic post dumb a$$ not real situation it means canada wants young people with tons of experience and high english language ability.
 
mf4361 said:
A person with Canadian Bachelor, 1 year experience in Canada, Max out CLB, <30 years old gets 444 points.

These people i am talking about have a masters.
What i am saying is that what works for some people might not work for others. That is why people's whose NOC wasn't needed during the old system called that system flawed.
 
nuksyed said:
The only way is PNP for specific NOC holders. I might be wrong?

Either way, PNP takes years lol, at least in AB.

AB has suspended its PNP is it not?
 
ETE said:
These people i am talking about have a masters.
What i am saying is that what works for some people might not work for others. That is why people's whose NOC wasn't need during the old system called that system flawed.
I have double masters no ITA here
 
mead said:
lol that was a sarcastic post dumb a$$ not real situation it means canada wants young people with tons of experience and high english language ability.

Are you kidding me? 450 points is tons of experience?
if you have an MSc and one year of experience you get higher than that number.
 
amamh said:
Are you kidding me? 450 points is tons of experience?
if you have an MSc and one year of experience you get higher than that number.
BSc in Canada and one year of canadian exp gives you 444.
 
mead said:
its definitely flawed there is no visibility for NOC or profession. Just age english and experience. That experience could be anything . so if all young cooks apply middle age nurses may not get ITA if they have same english language ability. Leave LMIA aside for a moment . Will EE handle influx of all cooks but no nurses or any other profession? Answer is no because EE doesnt see NOC /profession. There are a lot of flaws in the system. Since ur on the positive side u dont see it.

Firstly, stop throwing backhand comments and assuming things. Also, no matter if it is the old system or express system, i will always be on the positive side, because my NOC during the old system was required and in express system i have the required points.
 
mead said:
I have double masters no ITA here

Mate, good luck anyway :) no point of being negative.
 
mead said:
I have double masters no ITA here

Double masters with at least 1 year experience and younger than 30 and still below 450?
 
There are clear flaws in the CRS system - but that's subjective. Here's my take.

- Far too little weight given to Canadian work exp...maxes out at 80 points (5+ years) - when you compare that to the education score max of 150 (PhD) - it should be the other way around, or at the very least, give a similar amount of points (150 max score). I have been here for over two years and whilst the right qualifications are desired, NOTHING beats Canadian work experience, it is above all the most desirable facet of one's CV.

Age - This is the biggest flaw IMO - age scores start to tank significantly > 33 y.o. - scale should be rejigged as there are those who would struggle to obtain 450+ no matter how good their international/canadian experience/qualifications are.

My 2 cents.
 
pziegler1986 said:
There are clear flaws in the CRS system - but that's subjective. Here's my take.

- Far too little weight given to Canadian work exp...maxes out at 80 points (5+ years) - when you compare that to the education score max of 150 (PhD) - it should be the other way around, or at the very least, give a similar amount of points (150 max score). I have been here for over two years and whilst the right qualifications are desired, NOTHING beats Canadian work experience, it is above all the most desirable facet of one's CV.

Age - This is the biggest flaw IMO - age scores start to tank significantly > 33 y.o. - scale should be rejigged as there are those who would struggle to obtain 450+ no matter how good their international/canadian experience/qualifications are.

My 2 cents.

That's understandable!!!
 
pziegler1986 said:
There are clear flaws in the CRS system - but that's subjective. Here's my take.

- Far too little weight given to Canadian work exp...maxes out at 80 points (5+ years) - when you compare that to the education score max of 150 (PhD) - it should be the other way around, or at the very least, give a similar amount of points (150 max score). I have been here for over two years and whilst the right qualifications are desired, NOTHING beats Canadian work experience, it is above all the most desirable facet of one's CV.

Age - This is the biggest flaw IMO - age scores start to tank significantly > 33 y.o. - scale should be rejigged as there are those who would struggle to obtain 450+ no matter how good their international/canadian experience/qualifications are.

My 2 cents.

1. I agreed that it's way too little to Canadian work experiences. They don't seem to realize a large number of people with Canadian work experiences is also in the current workforce (Not necessarily)
And Canadian employers values Canadian work experience much more than foreign work experiences, at times simply disregard foreign work altogether. (Look at how many immigrants in the past 30 years with a professional credential ended up in blue collar jobs, low skill jobs, go entrepreneurial, and stay home)

2. they want younger immigrants than older. Remember this is economic class, which is based on your ability to work and create economic value to Canadian society, economy and government. Younger people have more years of working life to pay tax and contribute to economy. In a rapidly aging society (low birth rate, longer life expectancy, baby boomer effect), people who gets paid by govt will outnumber people who pays the govt very quickly. Hence especially needs more younger people replenish retirees who will collect government money (along with other measures like RRSP plans, CPP boost, etc)
 
Bachelor's and Master's in Canada. CLB-10 (IELTS). Mediocre french skills. Age 27. 4+ years of work experience. 5 if you account for co-op work terms and internship.

This all garnered me 498 crs points.