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CEC eligibility--tricky working hours

noot1

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Hello everyone.

I work as an instructor at a college and hope to apply through the CEC.

There seems to be some problem with the working hours requirement.

At my place, the employer will not specify hoiw many hours I worked.

As I looked at the contracts, I noticed that they counted working hours in a peculiar way.
They only counted the number of hours of lecturing so each semester I only work for 80 hours which is far below the
minimum requirement.

However, by their hours and salary level, my hourly salary would be 200 dollars which is ridiculously high for a teacher.

So they represented the nours in an unusual way, not taking into account out of classroom working hours like preparation, proctoring exams. etc

My yearly salary looks like a full time job but the number of hours is low, with abnormally high hourly rate as a result/

Can I still apply through CEC?
 

jsm0085

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Not if this is what they are saying.

You need to get them to change it.

YOu need 12 months of at least 30 hours per week for FT or equivalent in part time hours.
 

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Talk to the head of your department. Your college probably has a definition of "full-time" employment, find out what that is and whether your Department head will write a letter with that information.
 

noot1

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my college does not consider me to be full time, but the payment is full time level

can i still apply
 

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Proper number of hours(30+ Hrs per week) is MUST. You can't apply without that.
 

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Hi guys
I work full time but i am paid less than average which is only 1000 dollar a month!! I don't know if i am eligible really. If i were youi would apply and see what the cic will say. Goodluck
 

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maza said:
Hi guys
I work full time but i am paid less than average which is only 1000 dollar a month!! I don't know if i am eligible really. If i were youi would apply and see what the cic will say. Goodluck
How many hours do you work per week and what is your hourly rate?
 

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again, your college must have a formula regarding converting in-class contact hours to hours of work per week. As long as you can get that info into your letter, it should be OK.
 

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Hi JSM

I am a internal medicine resident, we usaually work 40 hours a week but i am only paid 1000 from hospital here and 2000 dollar from my country as a scholarship, and my university back home , won't give me a letter of refrence without writing that i should go back there after i finish my training. i am confused and don't know what to do. If i don't declare it , i will be deemed to have low-income , but if i declare it they will ask me for a paper from my university back home, which will say i have to go back there!!! any helpful ideas please???!! Thanks

Maza
 

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Hi again noot -

Here's an example of a formula for calculating hours, I don't know if you're in Ontario, but here's one for Ontario -

http://www.opseu560.org/pl.htm

"Employment Insurance

When you apply for Employment Insurance, be sure you are credited not simply for the hours you have spent teaching in the classroom, but also the hours you have spent in meetings, preparation and evaluation. You can refer to Article 8.04 B (i) of the Collective Agreement where, for the purposes of workload calculation, each teaching contact hour (TCH) is credited as 2.17 workload hours. As well, to calculate your 'real' workload for EI purposes, you might also like to complete our Standard Workload Form (SWF) spreadsheet
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This is actually a minimal conversion - most other formulas I've seen are 3-4 hours of work per each contact hour. See this at U of Windsor- (at the bottom of the page):
http://www.wufa.ca/?q=sessional_info

"It has been our understanding that a one-credit course (12 weeks, 39 classroom hours) will be recorded as 170 EI insurable hours."

Check with your college HR department and ask about the conversion for EI insurable hours, you can probably use that -

You probably haven't kept actual records, but for EI purposes, you can -