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CBSA tracking exits over air is it true?

ikovach

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Hi I'm interesting about CBSA tracking exits over air and if it's true - from which date they started to do that? Thank you in advance!
 

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ikovach said:
Hi I'm interesting about CBSA tracking exits over air and if it's true - from which date they started to do that? Thank you in advance!
Assume that they can, if they need to, obtain the entry and exit information from multiple sources, including airline passenger manifests.
 

sammy_2401

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Yes, they can, but unfortunately air lines keep record only for 6 months, unless you are a frequent flyer with them and have a miles card.
 

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I know from personal experience (my husband's experience) that they've been tracking this information for at least the last five years. They knew about all of my husband's land and air exits even though he didn't have passport stamps for many of them.
 

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CBSA always had access to entry data. I know that they now have access to data of people entering the US from Canada. Not sure about other countries.
 

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keesio said:
CBSA always had access to entry data. I know that they now have access to data of people entering the US from Canada. Not sure about other countries.
My husband travels quite a bit and they had records for all of his travel (including multiple non US trips).
 

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scylla said:
My husband travels quite a bit and they had records for all of his travel (including multiple non US trips).
If they're really tracking all exits, wouldn't that mean CIC would know exactly how many days each PR stays in Canada, thus, there should not be any ambiguity whatsoever on whether or not a PR satisfies residency requirements (or citizenship eligibility)?
 
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meyakanor said:
If they're really tracking all exits, wouldn't that mean CIC would know exactly how many days each PR stays in Canada, thus, there should not be any ambiguity whatsoever on whether or not a PR satisfies residency requirements (or citizenship eligibility)?
I know they can access records for entries into the US. But they don't have this agreement with all countries (if any beside the US)
 

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sammy_2401 said:
I have got my CBSA report and none of my non-US exits were reported there in. For our info.
Were US bound flights reported? I know that they've started tracking land exits to the US for non-US or Canadian citizens, not sure about flights though.
 

sammy_2401

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I had one exit to US via air from Pearson Toronto - it was prior to June 2013, and it is not reported as well.
 

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It seems to be somehow mixed then. kennykill reported that his non-US exits were reported, I wonder now how exactly that works.

I know that people that are issued visitor record have to confirm their departure from Canada with the CBSA at the airport. I wonder if we can do the same thing while leaving Canada (reporting to CBSA at the airport in the same manner visitor record people do, such that our departure date would show up on their system).
 

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meyakanor said:
It seems to be somehow mixed then. kennykill reported that his non-US exits were reported, I wonder now how exactly that works.

I know that people that are issued visitor record have to confirm their departure from Canada with the CBSA at the airport. I wonder if we can do the same thing while leaving Canada (reporting to CBSA at the airport in the same manner visitor record people do, such that our departure date would show up on their system).
What do you mean by - 'I wonder if we can....' . You can not do what is not implemented as a process there at the airports.
No such thing is in practice as of date for PRs.
 

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sammy_2401 said:
What do you mean by - 'I wonder if we can....' . You can not do what is not implemented as a process there at the airports.
No such thing is in practice as of date for PRs.
I was talking about how people who are issued visitor records report to CBSA at the airport. There is a way for CBSA to confirm the departure of visitor record-issued visitors, they should be able to (technically) do the same thing to PR's.
 

sammy_2401

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Yes, technically they can do. And they can do much more technically. In India and in other countries, one has to pass through immigration both upon entry and exit and both are recorded in systems and also on the passports. Technically, yes, it is possible. But the questions is not what they can do technically. The question is - are they doing it now? And the answer is - they are not.